Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?
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juju1958
Registered: Apr 27, 2009
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brendans wrote:
juju1958 wrote:

I also dislike the fill light in SSP when it give a HDR look so if anything I'll give it negative fill light and compensate the softening with a touch of sharpening.



I'm a fellow fill light hater (usually). I've recently wondered if, like sharpening, the default 0 fill light is actually not zero fill light. Taking it down to -.1 or -.2 usually looks a lot more natural (at least for color).


The fill light to me is odd, almost if not totally an HDR tool. When you give it a positive it lowers the highlights and lightens the shadows as you would in a HDR scenario. Often a negative fill although it can blow the highlights does give an improved quality of perceived light.I am sure anyone who is good at using Photoshop could export various soft and hard fill light images from SSP and blend them to achieve the best of both worlds. I do not have that knowledge to do that though



mstout
Registered: May 31, 2010
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Shout out to Juju1958- I had totally forgotten about the selective color adjustment layer, I think there was a similar tool in the first version of PS Elements I used several years ago that was cruder and not available as layer adjustment. So I never gave it a chance with my more current (CS4). Today started playing around with it on a file which has given me fits and am much happier with the result. Hopefully will get better with practice. Thanks again.



juju1958
Registered: Apr 27, 2009
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mstout wrote:
Shout out to Juju1958- I had totally forgotten about the selective color adjustment layer, I think there was a similar tool in the first version of PS Elements I used several years ago that was cruder and not available as layer adjustment. So I never gave it a chance with my more current (CS4). Today started playing around with it on a file which has given me fits and am much happier with the result. Hopefully will get better with practice. Thanks again.


Yes I use it a lot, every image , far more than Hue and saturation for managing colour. It can also be used to help contrast on local colour rather then global adjustment which will only enhance all the negatives or positives. I think working across an image in local areas using the lasso is a good way to work. A little more time yes but it is suprising how quick it becomes.



Grahamc
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Some from my DP2 and DP3



juju1958
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_P2M3202 by Julian de Courcy, on Flickr



edwinIII
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rattymouse
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Kyoto, Japan by E_O_S, on Flickr



johnnyleeone
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My first experiments, directly from the camera







crop 100%







drbdp2
Registered: Oct 02, 2015
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first couple of shots with the dp2 straight out of the box


https://flic.kr/p/z56R5q


ps. i cant work out how to enable image in this poast. upload option does not seem to be available (can't chose file)



MJP1
Registered: May 23, 2014
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The DP2-M is probably the most terrible camera to use. Slow, quirky, terrible high ISO performance. I could go on. The proprietary software that we must use for the RAW files is also clunky and soooo slow.
But, when I get out with it and the light is good and I don't forget extra batteries , it can capture unbelievably good images. Here are a few out of camera jpg's. Not manipulated at all...











timpdx
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Out to Kern County to check out the beginning of the 2016 wildflower bloom

Both are DP2M shots



shmn
Registered: Feb 05, 2010
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Picked up a DP3M a couple of months ago and still trying to tame the beast. Just picked up a DP2M last week since I'm a glutton for punishment. Image below is the DP3M.







markhout
Registered: Jan 21, 2004
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shmn wrote:
Picked up a DP3M a couple of months ago and still trying to tame the beast.


I was thinking of doing the same.

In your opinion, is the DP3M a workable telephoto addition to the GR? Or is the processing workflow too complex to bother with? The DP3M doesn't look pocketable, but I'm thinking of a travel set consisting of the DP3M for tele, the GR II for moderate wide-angle and an older GR with WA adapter for wider... Did you bring the DP3M to Senegal (the above image suggests that you didn't take the photo in the US, and I saw your post in the GR thread)? Thanks.



shmn
Registered: Feb 05, 2010
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markhout wrote:
shmn wrote:
Picked up a DP3M a couple of months ago and still trying to tame the beast.


I was thinking of doing the same.

In your opinion, is the DP3M a workable telephoto addition to the GR? Or is the processing workflow too complex to bother with? The DP3M doesn't look pocketable, but I'm thinking of a travel set consisting of the DP3M for tele, the GR II for moderate wide-angle and an older GR with WA adapter for wider... Did you bring the DP3M to Senegal (the above image suggests that you didn't take the photo in the US, and I saw your post in the GR thread)? Thanks.


Mark-

I've been wanting a short-tele version of the Ricoh GR for a while and settled on the Sigma DP3M (75mm equiv) after perusing this thread and seeing some of the results. The fact that it shares batteries with the Ricoh is a plus.

You ask if it's a "workable" addition to the GR...and I have to say that it's...adequate. The Ricoh is definitely much easier to use and more forgiving (and most certainly my favorite camera). The Sigma takes more work, needs more light, is slower, battery hungry and more cumbersome (literally and figuratively) than the Ricoh. But the results can be excellent. For me, the Sigma is a lot like the game of golf. I'm not very good, but when I hit the ball just right...it's nearly...orgasmic.

I did take the Sigma to Senegal but used the Ricoh 95% of the time because it just feels like a natural extension of my arm and the Sigma wasn't with me all the time. I kept the Ricoh around my neck on a lanyard and kept it in my shirt pocket so it was always available. The Sigma (although small compared to most cameras) is just a little too large to put in a pocket.

But I was impressed enough with the Sigma's results to buy the DP2M (the 45mm equiv cousin). It's much more "pocket-able" than the DP3M which has a fairly large lens. And I suspect I may end up carrying the DP2M more than the DP3M.

I only shoot RAW with all my camera so workflow isn't too much of a concern. SPP software is slow but effective.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.



shmn
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The last days of a peony. DP2M.







WriterHead
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