20MP Canon 6D full frame DSLR announced!
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Fred Miranda
Registered: Dec 31, 2001
Total Posts: 17697
Country: United States

The Canon EOS 6D was just unveiled! This entry-level full frame DSLR features a 3.2" Clear View II LCD, WI-FI capabilities and GPS built-in. Even though it is similar to the Canon D60 in size, it will not have a built-in flash nor articulated LCD.

Viewfinder coverage will be approximately 97% and the new AF system will have 11 focusing points sensitive to -3 EV. The Canon 6D is expected to be priced at $2,099 and start shipping in December 2012. Detailed features below:

  • 20.2 MP Full frame CMOS sensor
  • 4.5 FPS continuous drive
  • New AF System with 11 focusing points (center point cross-type and sensitive to -3 EV)
  • 3.2" Clear View II TFT LCD
  • 100-25600 ISO Range, expandable to 50-102400
  • 63-Zone Dual Layer Metering Sensor
  • Maximum shutter speed: 1/4000 sec
  • Wireless and GPS built-in
  • Digic 5+ processor
  • AF Microadjust (Same as the 5D Mark III)
  • Magnesium alloy / polycarbonate top plate
  • AE Bracketing: 3 (2, 3, 5 or 7 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
  • Exposure compensation: 5 EV (at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
  • 97% Viewfinder coverage
  • 1080P Video (29.97, 25, 23.976 fps)
  • Storage types: SD, SDHC, SDXC
  • Weather sealed with Splash and dust resistance
  • Weight / Size: 770g with battery (1.70 lb) / 5.71 x 4.37 . 2.8"
In you are in the market for this camera, preorder it from the links below and support the site:

B&H Photo | Amazon.com | Read the entire press release


Rickuz
Registered: May 22, 2012
Total Posts: 460
Country: Sweden

So 11 point AF and only one cross-type point? ..Revival of focus and recompose technique confirmed!

Kinda disappointing that the 6D is basically a repackaged 5D II with a few insignificant tweaks. If I were in the market for my first full frame camera, I'd go for Nikon D600. It is a better camera in every possible way, esp the auto focus system.

For example:

6D AF - 11 point AF, 1 cross type point.
VS
D600 AF - 39 point AF, 9 cross type points.



anthonygh
Registered: Jan 09, 2006
Total Posts: 1844
Country: United Kingdom

Why would this be a better buy than the 5D2 anyone?



Rickuz
Registered: May 22, 2012
Total Posts: 460
Country: Sweden

anthonygh wrote:
Why would this be a better buy than the 5D2 anyone?


Well, it does have built in wifi and gps..



EOS20
Registered: Mar 06, 2005
Total Posts: 13632
Country: Australia

DPR have posted their hands on preview:

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-6d/




James10013
Registered: May 24, 2010
Total Posts: 158
Country: United States

Just when you think that Canon has finally got it- specs of 7D, auto-focus in 5d3- they revert back to their old behavior.....WiFi and GPS notwithstanding, what an underwhelming and non-compelling offering!



stargazer78
Registered: Jan 19, 2009
Total Posts: 371
Country: United States

Disappointments:


  1. The joystick is gone.

  2. All the buttons on the left side are gone.

  3. Top panel buttons have been simplified to single function only.

  4. Single SD Card slot only.

  5. 1 cross type AF point only.

  6. Old style viewfinder doesn't have LCD overlay like 7D or 5D3



Pleasant surprises:

  1. 6D inherits silent shutter mode from the 5D3.

  2. Android/iOS app that lets cellphone control 6D via Live View



Sir_Loin
Registered: Jun 13, 2003
Total Posts: 663
Country: United Kingdom

Just my personal opinion, but if I was in the market for my first full frame SLR I'd go for a 5d II before they're discontinued. This release seems a little underwhelming.



RobDickinson
Registered: Sep 25, 2009
Total Posts: 3390
Country: New Zealand

anthonygh wrote:
Why would this be a better buy than the 5D2 anyone?


It has some upsides over a 5d2.

New LCD , spirit level, more range for bracketing and exp compensation etc.
But it all looks like lipstick on a pig.

But wow. -3 EV for that centre point. Nuts. Why. Why on this? Bizarre.



PhilDrinkwater
Registered: Feb 24, 2010
Total Posts: 1878
Country: United Kingdom

A few interesting positives - the centre af point is sensitive to -3ev (compared to -1 on d600) and wifi and gps and I'm sure it'll follow the trend of having a much better screen than the d600 and 1/8000th maxshutter (which was a mistake for nikon i believe) but generally I'd tend to agree - disappointing unless it's $1800.... Which it's not.

Ive always preferred the ergonomics of canon but that's not likely to matter to "enthusiasts" who are unlikely to have their cameras in their hands for 10 hours at a time so, if I had no lenses, I'd likely buy the d600 too.

Canon need to be really careful in the next few years. While I personally consider the 5d3 to be a much better camera than the d800 for me (although $500 too expensive at launch), many don't and now there's a camera which I think we would all agree is just under spec for the money. When the original 5d came out it was a revelation, and the 5d2 too, but the market perception is one of falling behind and overcharging at the moment.



svetljo
Registered: Mar 04, 2009
Total Posts: 76
Country: Bulgaria

is it me, or no one sees that the 6D beats D600 in high iso and shutter speed?
(at least on specs )
i see also touch screen, wifi and gps like very nice features for an entry camera



Alex53
Registered: Sep 07, 2004
Total Posts: 1583
Country: Gibraltar

anthonygh wrote:
Why would this be a better buy than the 5D2 anyone?


4.5 fps instead of 3.9fps
25600 ISO instead of 6400 ISO
2 more focus points.
3.2" screen instead of 3" screen.

For that, you lose;
1% less viewfinder coverage.
1 megapixel

Also one uses CF cards and the other uses SD cards, which may be seen as an advantage or disadvantage depending on what you already own.

For what its worth, I am still happily shooting with the original 5D and have seen nothing worth spending thousands on in any of the new bodies.




RobDickinson
Registered: Sep 25, 2009
Total Posts: 3390
Country: New Zealand

Alex53 wrote:
2 more focus points.


1 more selectable focus point, 5 less focus points, same number of usable focus points (1).



Rickuz
Registered: May 22, 2012
Total Posts: 460
Country: Sweden

svetljo wrote:
Is it me, or no one sees that the 6D beats D600 in high iso..

We haven't seen anything yet.

Manufacture can say whatever native value they want. 1DX suppose to have 2 stop "native" iso over D4 but tests shows they are pretty much the same at all ISO levels. One is honest about usable ISO and the other one is about look good on spec sheet

svetljo wrote:
I see also touch screen, wifi and gps like very nice features for an entry camera.


What good will these bells and whistles be if you can't nail your focus recompose technique?

Look again. The 6D gives you 11 points / 1 cross-type, while the D600 gives you 39 points and 9 cross-types.

The 6D and D600 are for people getting into FF photography. (people who are not heavily invested yet). There is basically no reason to get the 6D over the D600.



PhilDrinkwater
Registered: Feb 24, 2010
Total Posts: 1878
Country: United Kingdom

Rickuz wrote:
svetljo wrote:
I see also touch screen, wifi and gps like very nice features for an entry camera.


What good will these bells and whistles be if you can't nail your focus?


Well in low light you'll be more likely to. Pros here's, cons there.



Ralph Conway
Registered: Jul 31, 2008
Total Posts: 3833
Country: Germany

Rickuz wrote:
anthonygh wrote:
Why would this be a better buy than the 5D2 anyone?


Well, it does have built in wifi and gps..


And 2 stops higher ISO. And -2 EV higher low light sensitivity. And it is lighter and smaller.

Funny: This is the camera I was asking for one year ago as a 5D II Follow up.



mozza_m
Registered: Apr 23, 2004
Total Posts: 65
Country: Australia

Overall it seems quite disappointing. Don't know why I was expecting something different.



Rickuz
Registered: May 22, 2012
Total Posts: 460
Country: Sweden

Ralph Conway wrote:
And 2 stops higher ISO..


You might want to read my post above, regarding this matter.



dhphoto
Registered: Feb 16, 2003
Total Posts: 9758
Country: United Kingdom

Underwhelming.

I can see no real reason to consider upgrading my 5DII to this as I have no need for a touchscreen, wifi or GPS.

I'm not the kind of user they are looking for but if I were I'd buy the D600 every time.



Stoffer
Registered: Jan 27, 2005
Total Posts: 563
Country: Denmark

RobDickinson wrote:

1 more selectable focus point, 5 less focus points, same number of usable focus points (1).




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