Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)
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Jonas B
Registered: Jun 05, 2005
Total Posts: 2414
Country: Sweden

Four weeks is on the slow side, no doubt. There are of course examples of long(er) turn around times by other brands, there is no official pro service by Sony and so on... but I think we can agree it simply takes too long time for Sony to fix your camera. It's a big consumer problem in my opinion.



carstenw
Registered: Dec 26, 2005
Total Posts: 15339
Country: Germany

Tariq Gibran wrote:
philip_pj wrote:
too good not to put up here - a shutter noise comparo of RX1, EM-5, A7r and a high end Canon DSLR:

http://tobinators.com/blog/index.php/2013/11/everything-else/shutter-sound-comparison-sony-a7r-v-the-rest/

See if you can hear the RX1...


Nice comparison. So the single frame sound of the A7r is around the same as a Canon 1D. ouch.


I think we ought to give the A7R a prize for this performance. I would like to name the prize "The Honorary Mirror"...



douglasf13
Registered: Apr 09, 2008
Total Posts: 5986
Country: United States

twoeye wrote:
Jonas B wrote:

That's far from impressive indeed. Really bad actually. I wish Sony would hand out another copy for loan during the repair time. As they (my guess) don't I can only hope you'll get your camera back soon. I guess you have called them asking about the estimated time for the work. What do they say?


It has been sent from Tromsø to my retailer in Oslo, and from there too Sony in Sweden for service, estimated repair time four weeks. Hopefully I will have it back soon.


Ugh, that's too bad. I wonder if it is country specific? I had a lens repaired by Sony a few years ago, and I don't think it took much longer than a week or so here in the US.



Tariq Gibran
Registered: Oct 01, 2006
Total Posts: 10476
Country: United States

douglasf13 wrote:
twoeye wrote:
Jonas B wrote:

That's far from impressive indeed. Really bad actually. I wish Sony would hand out another copy for loan during the repair time. As they (my guess) don't I can only hope you'll get your camera back soon. I guess you have called them asking about the estimated time for the work. What do they say?


It has been sent from Tromsø to my retailer in Oslo, and from there too Sony in Sweden for service, estimated repair time four weeks. Hopefully I will have it back soon.


Ugh, that's too bad. I wonder if it is country specific? I had a lens repaired by Sony a few years ago, and I don't think it took much longer than a week or so here in the US.


Sony was showing off a new Pro Service at the recent PhotoPlus Expo in NY. Somewhere floating around is a video showing Sony technicians working on lenses and cameras during that expos promoting this new service. I don't know if it's world wide or just for the U.S.



fredmirandafan
Registered: Aug 07, 2013
Total Posts: 92
Country: Canada

Hi folks, I came across this "TTL Flash trigger system" made by Phottix today: http://www.phottix.com/en/studio-accessories/phottix-odin-ttl-flash-trigger-for-sony.html

It claims wireless TTL flash triggers on Sony cameras with a list of remote features. Has anyone here tested this? Does TTL compatibility assume the use of Sony flashes?



helimat
Registered: Apr 06, 2008
Total Posts: 3728
Country: Canada

Anyone else using the Sony raw converter?



sebboh
Registered: Nov 02, 2009
Total Posts: 10284
Country: United States

helimat wrote:
Anyone else using the Sony raw converter?


i haven't heard much good about it, but i never bothered to put it on my computer – just use LR/PS.



Tariq Gibran
Registered: Oct 01, 2006
Total Posts: 10476
Country: United States

Generally, the "default/ out of box" color with Sony's Image Data Converter is superior to ACR/LR in that it's much more neutral and accurate. The flip side is that sometimes it does not show as much detail as some other raw converters.



helimat
Registered: Apr 06, 2008
Total Posts: 3728
Country: Canada

sebboh wrote:

i haven't heard much good about it, but i never bothered to put it on my computer – just use LR/PS.


I can see why. So slow. I had hoped for a quick and basic raw converter, but I think I will have to go with LR & PS. I am just not too savvy with those programs.



charles.K
Registered: Nov 07, 2009
Total Posts: 3609
Country: Australia

twoeye wrote:
Jonas B wrote:

That's far from impressive indeed. Really bad actually. I wish Sony would hand out another copy for loan during the repair time. As they (my guess) don't I can only hope you'll get your camera back soon. I guess you have called them asking about the estimated time for the work. What do they say?


It has been sent from Tromsø to my retailer in Oslo, and from there too Sony in Sweden for service, estimated repair time four weeks. Hopefully I will have it back soon.


We also have serious service problems in Australia with Sony. It is well acknowledged with many service centres, and this is my concern with RX1R and the A7r. I know my recent frustrations with Leica, but in most cases they have provided backup lenses and cameras!



davewolfs
Registered: Jun 15, 2006
Total Posts: 1132
Country: United States

Sony told me that if my camera was sent in more than twice they would send me a new one. Also, they said that they pay shipping both ways. That's pretty damn good if you ask me.



twoeye
Registered: Jan 14, 2011
Total Posts: 392
Country: Norway

charles.K wrote:
twoeye wrote:
It has been sent from Tromsø to my retailer in Oslo, and from there too Sony in Sweden for service, estimated repair time four weeks. Hopefully I will have it back soon.


We also have serious service problems in Australia with Sony. It is well acknowledged with many service centres, and this is my concern with RX1R and the A7r. I know my recent frustrations with Leica, but in most cases they have provided backup lenses and cameras!


I am told my camera is now on it´s way back form service. But like you this makes me a little concerned about my A7r as well. For comparison: my experience with Canon is that they have a service turnaround time of less than a week here in Norway, and their repairs are done in Oslo.

Canon of course have a lot more professional users, but I think Sony needs to improve in this area.

(The failing control wheel of my RX1 seems maybe slightly more sturdy on the A7r, in addition I actually have no use for it the way I have customized the camera now. )



elkabong62
Registered: Nov 16, 2013
Total Posts: 7
Country: United States

When using the RX1R in Aperture or Manual Mode at f/22 or so the screen gets really dark, so much that I can't compose my picture. Do I compose and focus the picture at f/2 then the set to f/16 or f/22?



Jonas B
Registered: Jun 05, 2005
Total Posts: 2414
Country: Sweden

Maybe you need to tell the camera not to simulate the result of the exposure. You can try to change the setting in the Menu, Cogwheel, 2, the bottom most setting.



philip_pj
Registered: Apr 03, 2009
Total Posts: 3103
Country: Australia

IDC cannot be recommended on several grounds. Colour can be very well rendered but become muddy fast in shadows. Extreme tone changes are badly handled, sharpening is a disgrace, 'affordance' (the ability of the software to indicate what users can do and what a current state actually is) is near to non-existent.



elkabong62
Registered: Nov 16, 2013
Total Posts: 7
Country: United States

Jonas B, changed the Live View Display to off on the menu and the screen still gets dark at f/22.



Jonas B
Registered: Jun 05, 2005
Total Posts: 2414
Country: Sweden

elkabong 62, then I don't know what you need to do. Maybe tell us what the light situation is, what you other settings are (shutter speed, aperture and ISO, if Auto ISO what is the limit?).

I have the Auto ISO limit set pretty high (ISO 25k something) and in A mode I virtually never get a too bright or dark view in the EVF. And that is with the Live View Display set to ON.



douglasf13
Registered: Apr 09, 2008
Total Posts: 5986
Country: United States

elkabong62 wrote:
Jonas B, changed the Live View Display to off on the menu and the screen still gets dark at f/22.


Mine does this too, but only in dark conditions. It probably has something to do with the camera meters and uses live view in dark conditions.

Either way, to be honest, I've never even shot the camera with an aperture smaller than f11. Diffraction already sets in by f11, so, at f22, you're really robbing yourself of resolution.



rittrato
Registered: Nov 18, 2013
Total Posts: 226
Country: United States

Hey guys, what's a good used price for a 3 month old RX1R? The owner claims the camera has about 2500 actuations. It is in mint condition.

The seller was asking $1950 for it.



Tariq Gibran
Registered: Oct 01, 2006
Total Posts: 10476
Country: United States

rittrato wrote:
Hey guys, what's a good use price for a 3 month old RX1R? The owner claims the camera has about 2500 actuations. It is in mint condition.


Sort of hard to say as the price seems to vary widely. Just looking at ebay completed auctions, some have sold for as little as $2000-$2100 but as much as around 2500 recently. I would say a "good" price would be at that lower range.

edit. $1950 is probably a good deal if it's in Mint shape.



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