Canon 300mm f/4L IS II patent released
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Fred Miranda
Registered: Dec 31, 2001
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Canon has just released the optical formula patent for what we suspect might be a lighter EF 300mm f/4L IS II.

  • F = 300mm focal length
  • Fno. 4.0
  • Tele ratio 0.68
  • Inner Focus
  • φr = 68.8mm
  • φg1 = 67.8mm
  • φg2 = 70.2mm

For more details on this Canon patent, check out the english translated Egami's blog.


thedutt
Registered: May 15, 2006
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Thanks for sharing. I have the current version and love it for its useablity. Thaught i would end up selling mine after getting the bigger 2.8 bother, but just cannot seem to part from it. New upgrade would be welcome news.



rscheffler
Registered: Aug 23, 2005
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So, shall we begin speculating on price? I submit $1999 US.



dgenx24
Registered: Jan 30, 2008
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Where's 400 5.6 IS?



Sneakyracer
Registered: Mar 24, 2004
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Its gonna be well over $2000



PetKal
Registered: Sep 06, 2007
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rscheffler wrote:
So, shall we begin speculating on price? I submit $1999 US.


No way. $2,399



erikburd
Registered: Feb 03, 2010
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I'm going for $2500.



rscheffler
Registered: Aug 23, 2005
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dgenx24 wrote:
Where's 400 5.6 IS?


Just add a 1.4x TC. If this lens is as good as the 70-200 2.8 IS II or the new super-teles, it should be a viable solution.

Re: estimated pricing - I'm always too optimistic...



Andrew Welsh
Registered: Jan 20, 2007
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I'm with dgenx24... where's the 400/5.6 IS?

Adding a TC doesn't give the same optical quality, nor AF responsiveness, as just the lens by itself has.



Ernie Aubert
Registered: Apr 19, 2007
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Does anyone know how many years it typically takes after Canon files a patent for a new lens for them to announce it as a new product? Or does it vary too wildly to admit of any "typical"?



Jefferson
Registered: May 29, 2009
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What new glitches will it have for the $2,300 (IMO) price…it’s a bit less in weight (the old one ain’t bad), and it works better in warm weather (wasn’t aware that was a problem with the current model)…but the main improvement that I can see would be to mount my old one on a newer body. Will the new one still have the clunky IS noise?



rscheffler
Registered: Aug 23, 2005
Total Posts: 4979
Country: Canada

Andrew Welsh wrote:
I'm with dgenx24... where's the 400/5.6 IS?

Adding a TC doesn't give the same optical quality, nor AF responsiveness, as just the lens by itself has.


I guess... but the new lenses seem to be much better with the TCs. Maybe Canon wants to release the long expected 100-400 first, showcase its optical improvements over the previous version and 400 f/5.6 and drive as many potential buyers to it instead.

But first they need to release the 200-400... C'mon Canon! It's already been in use at the Olympics...



Fr3d
Registered: Nov 29, 2008
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Ernie Aubert wrote:
Does anyone know how many years it typically takes after Canon files a patent for a new lens for them to announce it as a new product? Or does it vary too wildly to admit of any "typical"?


Most patented lens designs never make it into a final product. The time between patent release and
final product (if any) can vary between a couple of months and a couple of years.



EB-1
Registered: Jan 09, 2003
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I'm still waiting for the new 100-400.

EBH



OntheRez
Registered: Jul 16, 2008
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Fr3d wrote:
Ernie Aubert wrote:
Does anyone know how many years it typically takes after Canon files a patent for a new lens for them to announce it as a new product? Or does it vary too wildly to admit of any "typical"?


Most patented lens designs never make it into a final product. The time between patent release and
final product (if any) can vary between a couple of months and a couple of years.


Just to support Fr3d's remarks, having worked in the tech industry I can say there is no mathematical correlation between filing and time to product arrival. Most never make it and I've seen an occasion or two where the filing barely beat product introduction. Overall, my impression is that Canon is rarely in a hurry

Robert



AJSJones
Registered: Jan 22, 2002
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Andrew Welsh wrote:
I'm with dgenx24... where's the 400/5.6 IS?

Adding a TC doesn't give the same optical quality, nor AF responsiveness, as just the lens by itself has.


If the new TCs were developed to accommodate a new 300 f/4, the optical quality hit may be small. The AF would be slower for the 300 +1.4x than for the 300 without it but that's not the relevant comparison. The 300 II +1.4x III may be just as fast as the 400 f/5.6 I



tanglefoot47
Registered: Oct 12, 2004
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I could live with this lens enough so I would sell my 100-400 to get it me sell a lens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



RustyBug
Registered: Feb 02, 2009
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dgenx24 wrote:
Where's 400 5.6 IS?


350/3.5 IS ... add a 1.4TC and your at 500/5.0 IS

Of course, they'll never go this route ... but it would be a killer combination of manageable size/weight, reach, speed and versatility.
Makes more sense to me than the 400/4.0 D.O.



surf monkey
Registered: May 24, 2005
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AJSJones wrote:
The 300 II +1.4x III may be just as fast as the 400 f/5.6 I


Seems unlikely since the 400 is one of the fastest lenses in terms of AF. One reason why it's such a BIF favorite.

An upgrade to the 400f5.6 makes more sense to me.



skibum5
Registered: Jan 21, 2005
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Country: United States

It will be $2800 based upon 300 2.8 IS and Mark II and 300 f/4 IS.
enjoy



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