is the shift on the V2 now completely independent from the rotation of the lens? I seem to remember that was one of the improvements on the newer version of the 24mm ts-e ...

Moved to the Canon board...
and to answer your question, YES.

thanks!!..I meant to delete the post once I realized it was in the wrong place but couldn't...Anyway great news for da 24! Happy New year!!!

IOW, yes indeedy!

then it might be the time to BUY a TS-E!!!

Yes, it moves around to quite a number of positions, but is not as flexible as a view camera. The 24 TSE II is an exceptionally good lens all around and well built.

EBH

The 17 is the same as far as that goes! You can also use the TC 1.4 with the TS-E lenses (unofficialy) though they report the aperture wrong (eg. f4 is really. 5.6, 5.6 is really f8 etc.). The 17 does a good job of playing 24 at f11!