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Lotusm50 Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Sep 26, 2005 Total Posts: 3275 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate At least we know what we want... Aug 22, 2006 at 06:04 PM

Lotusm50 Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Sep 26, 2005 Total Posts: 3275 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate dcmiller wrote: I can see guy with this camera, especially considering the specs..... Fuji F4? Reports suggest that the Fuji F4 Pro will be built on a Nikon F6 chassis, feature a new 8-9 mp Fuji Super CCD DX-size chip and do 6 frames per second. Aug 22, 2006 at 06:18 PM

PhotoExpressn Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Apr 29, 2004 Total Posts: 116 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate On the F6 chassis! That would be awesome. If the dynamic range is good, this sounds like a great combination. I want one. :) Lotusm50 wrote: Reports suggest that the Fuji F4 Pro will be built on a Nikon F6 chassis, feature a new 8-9 mp Fuji Super CCD DX-size chip and do 6 frames per second. Aug 22, 2006 at 07:04 PM

carstenw Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Dec 26, 2005 Total Posts: 2768 Country: Germany Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate Lotusm50 wrote: dcmiller wrote: I can see guy with this camera, especially considering the specs..... Fuji F4? Reports suggest that the Fuji F4 Pro will be built on a Nikon F6 chassis, feature a new 8-9 mp Fuji Super CCD DX-size chip and do 6 frames per second. It would be really neat if they would release a Canon-mount version. This would make a great backup camera for the 5D. Aug 22, 2006 at 07:17 PM

marcwilson Online Buy and Sell: On Registered: Mar 21, 2006 Total Posts: 1499 Country: United Kingdom Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate Please, someone, nikon, leica, bring out a wide shift lens that is still wide on these wonderful nikon / fuji / etc..crop bodies..please! Aug 22, 2006 at 07:32 PM

Lotusm50 Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Sep 26, 2005 Total Posts: 3275 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate Marc- How wide do you need? Is the Schneider PC SUPER ANGULON 28mm f2.8 shift lens not wide or good enough? I suppose not on a crop body, but what about on a FF Canon? Aug 22, 2006 at 07:53 PM

marcwilson Online Buy and Sell: On Registered: Mar 21, 2006 Total Posts: 1499 Country: United Kingdom Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate I do also use 5x4 for interior / exterior shift shots but have to / like to be able to do some shift stuff with the dslr setup. On the ff canon I use the 24tse..that is the kind of width I like / want / need. But of course because of the crop factor on nikon, etc I am tied into ff canon and its 24mm tse whereas for every other lens I would rather be using nikon for its great wide zoom and primes / upcoming zeiss zf primes without adapter hassles...I don't use longer lenses much so have no preference about canon / nikon glass there. Aug 22, 2006 at 08:00 PM

HetDraakje Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Jul 07, 2006 Total Posts: 14 Country: Netherlands Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate A salesman told me that Leica is going to produce lenses with a Canon mount. Is there any reason to beleive this? Aug 22, 2006 at 09:57 PM

carstenw Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Dec 26, 2005 Total Posts: 2768 Country: Germany Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate I seriously doubt it. Companies like Zeiss and Leica have not reverse engineered mounts in the past, and will only support mounts with open specifications. Canon does not share mount information with other companies, to my knowledge. Aug 23, 2006 at 04:17 AM

HetDraakje Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Jul 07, 2006 Total Posts: 14 Country: Netherlands Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate Companies like Zeiss and Leica have not reverse engineered mounts in the past And what about the ZF mount from Zeiss? Is that not reverse engineering? Aug 23, 2006 at 05:48 AM

carstenw Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Dec 26, 2005 Total Posts: 2768 Country: Germany Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate No, that was cooperative, I am pretty sure. Or, it is simply not covered by any patents any more. Aug 23, 2006 at 06:13 AM

Lotusm50 Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Sep 26, 2005 Total Posts: 3275 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate carstenw wrote: No, that was cooperative, I am pretty sure. Or, it is simply not covered by any patents any more. I sincerely doubt it was cooperative, but simply, as you say, not covered by any patent or any specific technological know-how. It is basically an archaic, obsolete lens mount -- not significantly different than the Leica mount in the scheme of things, it is basically an open standard. Nikon does not even use the mount in the version used in the ZF lenses (and hasn't done so for many years). Further, there are other manufacturers making camera equipment/components using the old Nikon mount, including Sinar and Horseman. Aug 23, 2006 at 12:43 PM

netexpress Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Oct 20, 2004 Total Posts: 951 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate I want that new Canon 50mm 1.2L! Where is the best place to put in a back order that won't make you wait six months? Aug 23, 2006 at 04:38 PM

netexpress Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Oct 20, 2004 Total Posts: 951 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate Ah Ha! Tricks of the trade! Thanks Guy! I'll be checking B&H daily! Aug 23, 2006 at 05:11 PM

netexpress Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Oct 20, 2004 Total Posts: 951 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate Still one month to go until Photokina and I already have one "gotta have" item booked! Aug 23, 2006 at 05:12 PM

Jeff Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Dec 31, 2002 Total Posts: 8254 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate So, is that supposed "50/1.2L" considered 'Alternative' over here? LOL (yawn... :)) Aug 23, 2006 at 10:02 PM

Jeff Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Dec 31, 2002 Total Posts: 8254 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate Well, glad you guys have something to talk about, anyways... :D Aug 23, 2006 at 11:30 PM

Doug Morgan Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Sep 06, 2004 Total Posts: 1018 Country: Canada Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate For the time being the new Canon lenses ARE alternative since until Q1 07 (or so) they will only be available in an alternate universe. Doug Aug 23, 2006 at 11:53 PM

netexpress Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Oct 20, 2004 Total Posts: 951 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate We need more meat the alternate Rumor thread! Help me out I’m starting to slack back into Canonland LOL Yeah the M8 is going to be huge! What about medium format backs? Someone has to have heard some juicy leaks about what’s coming out at Photokina? If not we need to put a pool together to hire some moles to go underground at Phase One, Sinar, leaf, the new Mamiya and Imacon/Hassy :) Oh well – I guess we have a whole month to wait for rumors to pop up. Aug 24, 2006 at 02:33 AM

carstenw Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Dec 26, 2005 Total Posts: 2768 Country: Germany Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate I want to know what's going on with the Pentax 645. What are those cameras like? They look kinda funny, not like the beautiful Contax 645 cameras :) And is only Sigma going to release a Foveon-based camera? Aug 24, 2006 at 05:42 AM

Brent Ward Online Buy and Sell: On Registered: Jan 22, 2005 Total Posts: 3076 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate I've been really excited about the Pentax 645D. Hopefully they upped the res to 22mp though. Aug 24, 2006 at 04:08 PM

marcwilson Online Buy and Sell: On Registered: Mar 21, 2006 Total Posts: 1499 Country: United Kingdom Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate Yes we need that camera to come out and be a success unlike the mamiya zd..not just for the use of that camera itself but also to hopefully bring down the prices of current / new 22mp backs... To me that will be the best thing about the pentax as needing shifts I would have to opt for a camera / back combo over an all in one. Aug 24, 2006 at 04:29 PM

marcwilson Online Buy and Sell: On Registered: Mar 21, 2006 Total Posts: 1499 Country: United Kingdom Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate so brent you think 8k usd for the pentax so we should be looking at 7k for the digital 22mp backs from the others as pricing..now at that price it is good.. Aug 24, 2006 at 04:33 PM

netexpress Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Oct 20, 2004 Total Posts: 951 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate I've read that Leaf is selling off the Aptus 17 for $7K already. So we're getting there! I don't think we've heard the last of the ZD series. The big problem with the ZD is software and I've heard that is exactly what the new Mamiya company is working on. So it could turn out to be a great camera with great software for the price in a few months. Aug 24, 2006 at 05:19 PM

Lotusm50 Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Sep 26, 2005 Total Posts: 3275 Country: United States Re: Photokina RUMOR - Alternate Yes. We haven't hear the last of Mamiya. The firm that bought Mamiya is not going to just fold the business without trying to make it all work the way people expect it to. They are going to at least give it one good try. We'll see if they have anything to unvail at Photokina. The hardware looks goos, they just have to nail the software this time. Pentax, too. They have to s**t or get off the pot. (so to speak). It's time for everyone to see a product, or it will be dismissed as eternal vaporware and ignored from now on. Zeiss also has to show some of it cards in how it is planning to significantly participate in this market (ZF, ZA and ZM lens presence is not significant, regardless of what anyone might say). But there will be significant pressure on Leaf, Phase One, Sinar/Jenoptik and Imacon to reduce prices due to rumoured continuous advance of Canon and the potential success of budget Mamiya and Pentax offerings. The target is going to have to be $7K for a 22mp back and no more than $15K for the 39mp backs. That represents a significant price decline from today -- but quite frankly Kodak and Dalsa should have moved down the production learning curve on their chips to reduce costs significantly and expand volume. If Canon has indeed going to produce a MF system with stitched sensors as rumoured, life is going to get very tough for these boutique digital back producers. Aug 24, 2006 at 06:50 PM

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