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News for fast primes aficionados. Cosina lunch in F and KA mounts "Ultron" 40/2 SL II Aspherical and apparently re-issue "Nocton" 58/1.4 SL II. More info and links here

Nov 02, 2007 at 02:33 PM
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Woow! That means there's a possibility that we will see the much-sought-after Vogitlander 125mm macro lens on the market again!

Nov 02, 2007 at 03:28 PM
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weekh wrote:
Woow! That means there's a possibility that we will see the much-sought-after Vogitlander 125mm macro lens on the market again!


I saw a 125 recently for $500, but it is OM mount. Adaptable, but not as ideal as a native EOS mount with auto aperture.


Nov 02, 2007 at 04:27 PM
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Excellent. Thanks for the information. I'm looking for a 75mm f/2.5 SL Color Heliar. F-mount would be fine. I can wait...

P.S. Stephen Gandy's Camera Quest has new 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar Macros in Pentax-K and Olympus OM mounts for $729, so $500 for an OM might not be too bad. The Voigtlanders are all manual through & through, so I don't you'll ever see one with auto-aperture for EOS.


Nov 02, 2007 at 08:22 PM
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More info on the 2 new lenses from the Singapore Voigtlander dealer:

http://www.chiifcameras.com/images/stories5/SL-40F2_instructions.pdf

http://www.chiifcameras.com/images/stories5/SL-58F1_4_instructions.pdf


Nov 02, 2007 at 11:19 PM
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I wonder what the name of the lens really means:

"Voigtländer 40mmF2 SLII" - Does it mean that they have redesigned the old Ultron 40/2 to a version II? The big question is of course if they have managed to make a lens with decent bokeh this time.

They are a bit strange over at Cosina. In KA-mount this lens will meet some competition from the classic Pentax 43/1.9 Limited as well as from the Pancake Pentax 40/2.8. Slower but with AF and optically better than the old Ultron 40/2 in my opinion.

The 58mm is a lens I'm not familiar with at all. I notice this one also is called version two. Is there anyone knowing anything about this lens with regards to resolution, microcontrast and bokeh?


Nov 03, 2007 at 12:04 AM
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Here's the discussion thread on Topocor but it is in Chinese. Nevertheless it is loaded with lots and lots of pictures.

http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=395234


Nov 03, 2007 at 12:59 AM
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weekh wrote:
More info on the 2 new lenses from the Singapore Voigtlander dealer:

http://www.chiifcameras.com/images/stories5/SL-40F2_instructions.pdf

http://www.chiifcameras.com/images/stories5/SL-58F1_4_instructions.pdf


Do you know what the price will be in Singapore?


Nov 03, 2007 at 02:08 AM
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I have a 125mm for $450 (contax mount) if anyone in usa is interested.

Nov 03, 2007 at 02:40 AM
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Jorgen Udvang wrote:
weekh wrote:
More info on the 2 new lenses from the Singapore Voigtlander dealer:

http://www.chiifcameras.com/images/stories5/SL-40F2_instructions.pdf

http://www.chiifcameras.com/images/stories5/SL-58F1_4_instructions.pdf


Do you know what the price will be in Singapore?


No idea on the price yet.... u can always email chiifcamera for the info...


Nov 03, 2007 at 10:07 AM
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According to the Yen price on dpreview it translates to $435 USD. So probably around $400.

Nov 03, 2007 at 01:43 PM
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jcolwell wrote:
The Voigtlanders are all manual through & through, so I don't you'll ever see one with auto-aperture for EOS.


Logically, thats what one would expect but amazingly for the EOS mount, Cosina added the electronic active connections to a few of the SL lenses so the EOS versions do have auto aperture. They are of course still manual focus.


Nov 03, 2007 at 02:11 PM
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Tariq, thanks for the info. I've never seen one in EOS mount (EF), so I'll keep my eyes open, but I'd be quite happy with C/Y, F, OM or M42.

Paul, you got that right! :cool:


Nov 03, 2007 at 08:19 PM
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Here's a quote from this review of the EOS version:
"As mentioned above the coupling to the camera is fully integrated with a native EF (EOS) mount and the usual electronics (reads: it has an electronic aperture). "

http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/lenses/voigtlander_lanthar_125_25/index.htm

I have seen the EOS version sell as new on ebay for around $800 or so. Automatic stop down aperture and open aperture metering controlled by the camera would be quite nice for such a beautifully built manual lens.


Nov 03, 2007 at 09:17 PM
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I had a chance to buy the EOS version about 8 months ago for $550. Should have jumped on it. Oh well, here's hoping they introduce a "II" version of it in EOS mount and satisfies some of that demand that drove the prices up. I could certainly use the other mount versions, but electronic aperture control would be a huge "nice-to-have", as Tariq said.

Nov 05, 2007 at 01:50 PM
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does anyone have any idea whether the aperture indents are in full stops or in half stops like on the Zeiss's?

Nov 17, 2007 at 11:05 AM
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Pavel wrote:
does anyone have any idea whether the aperture indents are in full stops or in half stops like on the Zeiss's?


The 40 SL (not the new version II) is a full stop from f/2 to f/2.8, 1/2 stops from f/2.8 to f/8, and again full stops from f/8 to f/16.


Nov 17, 2007 at 06:02 PM
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I picked up the new 40/2 SLII yesterday in Seoul from the first dealer in South Korea to have it in stock.... it is GREAT! Adorable on the FE2, feels fantastic- didn't realize the focus ring is basically a rubberband haha.



Nov 24, 2007 at 07:26 AM
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oh, and the apertures are full click stops on the new 40mm F2 SLII.

Nov 26, 2007 at 07:08 AM
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how do you like the image quality? i'm thinking of trading my ZF 50/1.4 for one of these... the question is, which?

Nov 28, 2007 at 03:22 AM
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i haven't heard enough good things about the ZF 50 to warrant owning it over a simple nikkor AIS 1.4... so i'd say get this and a beat up 50/1.4 AIS.

i've posted some shots (on film) in the alternative image thread.


Nov 28, 2007 at 04:01 AM
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Interesting, I've heard nothing but great things about the ZF 50. So many great things including comments and samples in this forum, in fact, that I bought one. Once my broken collar bone heals a bit more, I might get a chance to go and use it.

Nov 28, 2007 at 04:26 AM
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i have heard/seen things that say its a great lens and all, but i've also seen plenty of members on this site posting photos w/ lots of blooming and just not that impressive in general... esp when you remember it's what, $500? I paid $75 for my Nikkor 50/1.4- it's smaller, lighter, cheaper, and probably just as good maybe better. And i can throw it at you as a weapon, because it was so cheap.


j/k about tossing a lens at you- but i COULD do it haha


Nov 28, 2007 at 04:37 AM
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Andi (I think) put up some crops from the ZF 50 and the pics had a strange glow to them in OOF areas wide open and stopped down to 2.8. Lotus, surely you remember the discussion on this particular point. I've seen this kind of behaviour before, though not to the same degree, on my C/Y 35-70 wide open (which is one area where the Leica 35-70/4 beats the Contax easily), so I don't think this behaviour is exclusive to the ZF 50 .

I'm still very interested in trying a ZF lens or two, but I'll wait until more start to appear on the used market, bringing prices down.


Nov 28, 2007 at 04:43 AM
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StevenPA wrote:
Andi (I think) put up some crops from the ZF 50 and the pics had a strange glow to them in OOF areas wide open and stopped down to 2.8. Lotus, surely you remember the discussion on this particular point. I've seen this kind of behaviour before, though not to the same degree, on my C/Y 35-70 wide open (which is one area where the Leica 35-70/4 beats the Contax easily), so I don't think this behaviour is exclusive to the ZF 50 .


Andi's sample images from the ZF 50 were uniformly excellent. He also spoke quite highly of it. I did notice a something of a glow in the wide open shot, but other posters suggested that was fairly common and potentially situation-based. I'll see if that effect is duplicated in my wide-open samples.

Hopefully, I can get some samples over the next day or so, and potentially a side-by-side comparison with the Contax c/y 50/1.4. Hopefully adapter issues won't get in the way of decent comparison.


Nov 28, 2007 at 03:13 PM

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