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Ben Horne Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Jan 10, 2002 Total Posts: 7588 Country: United States North Rim & Antelope Canyon I've read through the topics in the past on Antelope canyon, and have done some searches on the topics. However, I'm looking to get as much info as possible about these two locations before going on a trip out there in a few weeks. Any insight would be apprecaited on either location. From what I understand, Lower antelope is a walk-in type attraction --- very narrow at times, and no guide required. Upper antelope requires a guide, which you can pay for at the entrance. What stragegy would you recommend for doing both in a day? I'd imagine you would want to hit upper in its prime, and then focus on doing the more abstract shots in lower. What are some nice easy trails in the North Rim area. I'll be with my girlfriend on the trip, and she is fine with small hikes, so any short yet very scenic hikes you guys can recommend would be appreciated. Anything else I'm missing that you guys can recommend? May 03, 2007 at 05:44 PM

Ishotharold Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Mar 03, 2005 Total Posts: 530 Country: United States Re: North Rim & Antelope Canyon My big regret from the southwest trip I did a couple months ago was I didn't stop at horseshoe bend south of page. Sure it's a token shot but it's a landmark. May 03, 2007 at 06:34 PM

Brent Ward Online Buy and Sell: On Registered: Jan 22, 2005 Total Posts: 3080 Country: United States Re: North Rim & Antelope Canyon Zion is pretty close top page. I would hit that as well. May 03, 2007 at 06:52 PM

RebeccaVT Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Oct 19, 2005 Total Posts: 193 Country: United States Re: North Rim & Antelope Canyon Hi Ben, When I went to Antelope Canyon a few years ago, I went with these guys for a tour: http://www.antelopecanyon.com/extended_tour.html The photography tour was longer then the standard tours, and the guide was really good at helping me shoot the sunbeams. The canyon was extremely crowded though, so that was somewhat disappointing. I agree with Eric that you should it horseshoe bend. I skipped it too, and I regret it. PS... my maiden name is Horne :) May 03, 2007 at 06:55 PM

PKuglin Online Buy and Sell: On Registered: May 04, 2003 Total Posts: 3829 Country: United States Re: North Rim & Antelope Canyon Ben, Actually you don't need a guide for either upper or lower. You still must pay the entrance fees. The upper is more traveled and cost more. The normal entrance fee is $20 for 1 hour (plus $5/person parking fee). You can get the photo tour for $35 which is 2 hours. They just drop you off at the entrance (after a 3-4 mile ride in a pickup truck bed converted with seats). You can get a guide in Page which help explain things, and runs interference for you which helps due to the high traffic. Concerning the North Rim of GC, I would invest in a guide book on hiking that area. Page has many areas to see around the area. Going to Zion etc is et another trip for sure. There are many areas around Lake Powell, the Coyote Buttes Paira canyon etc to shoot/hike. I would also invest in the Photographing the SW guide books for UT/AZ to really due the research. May 03, 2007 at 08:34 PM

kdphotography Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Dec 22, 2005 Total Posts: 579 Country: United States Re: North Rim & Antelope Canyon I recently visited Page, AZ and had a fantastic trip----if I can find the time, I will post some of the images. I recommend Overland Canyon Tours. 928-608-4072. www.overlandcanyontours.com They are very understanding of photographers---they have two photographer's on staff. We lucked out and captured some great sunbeams coming into the canyon. Our guide knew where they would be and advised us where to stand and wait. Other tour groups seemed to really push crowds through----were pretty unaccomodating to photographers ---the tour guides themselves walking directly in front of our cameras blocking shots that were in the last moments of 15 second exposures.... And apparently when I went it was not "crowded"---I'd hate to see Antelope when it is in its peak season! Overland Canyon Tours is the only place with access to Canyon X----sorta a private slot canyon. We (two photographers) were left alone in Canyon X for about three hours. Worthwhile and no crowds! Tons of places ---including Lower Antelope, Horseshoe Bend, Rainbow Bridge-----need to go back! May 03, 2007 at 08:35 PM

Tim ONeill Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Feb 06, 2003 Total Posts: 8340 Country: United States Re: North Rim & Antelope Canyon Upper and Lower Antelope, no guides needed. Hit Horseshoe for sunrise, then Lower, and into Upper around 11:00. North Rim: Bright Angel trail in front of the lodge. Transept Trail from lodge to campground (both easy walks). Bright Angel trail down into the canyon to Roaring Springs strenuous. Otherwise consult the park Rangers. May 03, 2007 at 09:19 PM

JimFox Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Jan 11, 2005 Total Posts: 13879 Country: United States Re: North Rim & Antelope Canyon Hey Ben, Save yourself a ton of money, and listen to Phil and Tim. And Tim laid out the timeline for you. Shoot Horseshoe at sunrise, go grab breakfast, get out to Lower, it opens at 8 or 9am. Then drive across the road to Upper, make sure you are there about 10 minutes to 11, get on the truck and they will drive you to the entrance. If you get a guided tour from Page, you will be made to stay with that group. If you do it like Phil, Tim and I suggest, you will not have to stay with the group. You can certainly walk with them as they walk through the canyon and the guide explains things. But you don't have to stay with them, and plus you don't have to go back with them. They will let you go back with any of their returning tours. So that means, if you want to stay there 3 or 4 hours... you can... :) Though I think 2 hours is pretty good, by 1pm the sun beams will be gone. My 3 cents... :) Jim May 03, 2007 at 09:34 PM

Ben Horne Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Jan 10, 2002 Total Posts: 7588 Country: United States Re: North Rim & Antelope Canyon Thanks for all the input everyone. Keep it coming if anyone else has any more info. May 04, 2007 at 01:46 AM

mrladewig Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Dec 20, 2005 Total Posts: 1736 Country: United States Re: North Rim & Antelope Canyon And in case it wasn't made clear about the Bright Angel hike, it is STRENUOUS! I hiked the trail with my Dad in one day. About 30 miles. About 5300 vertical feet. All of that was fine as we had done plenty of fourteeners in Colorado. What got us was 2 things. The heat at Phantom Ranch and the fact that the hike out was all uphill. We started at 4AM and ended around 11PM. Its a stunningly beautiful hike, but hard. Other than that advice, I don't remember a whole lot from the trip since is was 15-16 years ago. May 06, 2007 at 04:46 AM

Zeph Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Jan 30, 2005 Total Posts: 2564 Country: United States Re: North Rim & Antelope Canyon I would suggest getting too either the upper or lower canyon around 8:00 or 9:00. A six dollar fee is good for both canyons each day and the lower canyon the scene is casual and the folks are very helpful and gracious. The sight fee is a bit more and if you get the "Photographer Pass" (means=stay longer), which is even more, (maybe $30), but worth it! By getting there early you can meet and talk to the "guides" and also, more importantly get down in the canyon and scoop it out before the you start shooting and before the crowds get there. The LIGHT is what it's all about there, and you want to be there when the bright sun is is hitting the top of the walls of the canyon, I'm more interested in the reflective light than the light beams. The best time is from 11:00 to 2:00 of course this depends on what time of year your there. If anything gives definition to the word "luminous" Antelope Canyon does....Best of luck, Ben May 06, 2007 at 05:30 AM

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