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Shasta Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Jan 01, 2006 Total Posts: 937 Country: Canada 1D Tips and Tricks So I finally have upgraded and have a 1D coming. Are there any tips and tricks to using it. VanIsle already told me about finding the custom linear tone curves, anything else? I think its a good upgrade from the D30 but I still love the unique picture quality. ;) Jul 26, 2006 at 10:25 PM

VanIsle Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Oct 22, 2004 Total Posts: 1454 Country: Canada Re: 1D Tips and Tricks heres those curves. I find when i use the last curve, the blinking blown highlights display almost perfectly matches what I get when i open a raw file in cs2 with the default settings. http://home.earthlink.net/~ladlueck/Tone%20Curves.htm Jul 26, 2006 at 10:46 PM

Forrest Egan Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Nov 22, 2004 Total Posts: 6279 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks If you're shooting in low light, using higher ISO settings, make sure you expose to the right...if you underexpose the noise will be horrible. Jul 26, 2006 at 10:49 PM

JasonJ Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Oct 02, 2005 Total Posts: 2415 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks Forrest, I'm sure the above advice will work with any digital SLR. In any case, how do you expose to the right without blowing the highlights? I still have a lot to learn about exposing images! So when exposing to the right, do you expose for the highlights and then raise the exposure by exposure compensation? Or do you meter as you normally would, then raise the exposure? I hate clipping highlights, but I always do, even if I don't expose to the right! Jul 26, 2006 at 10:55 PM

BryanP Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Oct 30, 2005 Total Posts: 162 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks With this particular camera, try not to chimp! The LCD is a killer when it comes to battery power. Go here if you want some starting points for your custom function decisions: http://www.siphoto.com/?canon1D.inc You'll like the camera a lot. IMO it's an extremely significant upgrade from the D30 in many regards. Jul 26, 2006 at 11:07 PM

Forrest Egan Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Nov 22, 2004 Total Posts: 6279 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks jasonjoo wrote: Forrest, I'm sure the above advice will work with any digital SLR. In any case, how do you expose to the right without blowing the highlights? Actually, with the 1D...shoot RAW, over-expose by 1/2 to 1 stop and adjust in RAW conversion. The 1D is a different beast than the CMOS based cameras (i.e. EVERYTHING else in the Canon lineup). Jul 26, 2006 at 11:12 PM

Spydweb Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Jan 08, 2004 Total Posts: 4767 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks Yes I found that +1/3 to +1/2 works best in all types of shooting. Jul 26, 2006 at 11:38 PM

VanIsle Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Oct 22, 2004 Total Posts: 1454 Country: Canada Re: 1D Tips and Tricks oh another thing... beware that you dont have an rgb histogram. Lots of times, (esp shooting in sunset light etc) the red channel will be blown, even though the flashing highlight doesnt show up. ********** im totally with Forrest as far as giving extra exposure especially to high iso shots. I find that in acr, i can recover almost a full stop of blown highlights, so sometimes i will take a shot to the point of being overexposed, knowing that i can bring it back in acr (and i will have limited noise by doing so). Jul 26, 2006 at 11:58 PM

Shasta Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Jan 01, 2006 Total Posts: 937 Country: Canada Re: 1D Tips and Tricks Wow lots of good tips. On my D30 I only had colorspace sRGB, I have heard using AdobeRGB is better, true? And why? I've read that using the Color Matrix 3 resembles the D30 shots. Jul 27, 2006 at 12:04 AM

Shasta Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Jan 01, 2006 Total Posts: 937 Country: Canada Re: 1D Tips and Tricks Oh yeah what about batteries, are the cheapies worth getting or stick with genuine ones. It only comes with one. Jul 27, 2006 at 01:06 AM

Forrest Egan Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Nov 22, 2004 Total Posts: 6279 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks The 1D is a battery hog (especially if you chimp a lot, which some one already mentioned not to do), so plan to get at least one spare battery. Lots of people claim the Black Diamonds are good...I got a couple for my MkII and they're going back for replacement. If you think you can get away with 1 spare, and can afford it, I would suggest sticking with the Canon. I suggest you only use aRGB if you need to (e.g. required by a client/publisher)...the color space is a little wider than sRGB, but if your printer doesn't support it you'll just end up converting everything back to sRGB. Jul 27, 2006 at 01:13 AM

Richard. Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Jul 27, 2006 Total Posts: 11 Country: France Re: 1D Tips and Tricks I confirm this camera is better when you shot "overexposed" mainly +2/3. Believe your histogram. The noise and the banding are decreasing with the last (very old now) firmware which is 1.04. Shoot in RAW mode.. Richard en Provence. Jul 27, 2006 at 04:38 PM

trueimage Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Apr 16, 2004 Total Posts: 792 Country: Canada Re: 1D Tips and Tricks I just got a 1D also, and after playing with it, I find I am having to overexpose +1 to +1 2/3 (expose to the right) and then bring it back in cs2 raw. Am I doing something wrong? It looks like it isn't clipped on the right side of the histogram, but I have never seen flashing on the lcd. So, to expose to the right, I can just shoot M, and move the exposure as far to the right of the histogram without it touching as possible, correct? or am I doing this wrong. I heard this is expecially important on the 1D due to noise, but I am shooting a friend's wedding (for free) in just over a week so I want to get used to the 1D, the right way, before then. Jul 27, 2006 at 05:16 PM

Nill Toulme Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Sep 05, 2002 Total Posts: 7800 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks I almost always shot my 1D at +2/3. (I usually shoot my Mark II's at + 1/3.) If you shoot a lot, two extra batteries are very useful. (One is enough with a Mark II.) Read, digest, and read again this document. Nill ~~ www.toulme.net Jul 27, 2006 at 05:17 PM

twistedlim Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Oct 20, 2004 Total Posts: 2095 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks I may be a real simpleton but I reallly like using DPP for RAW files. I usually start with one of the picturestyles and adjust from there. "Landscape" is really nice for most applications if you reduce the saturation slightly. I also use Black Diamond batteries most of the time for their longer life. Trust your histogram and expose to the right side of the middle as others have said. I usually go 1/3 stop and sometimes 2/3. Nil would be the expert there. The lcd is really only good for the histogram IMHO. Chimp a couple of times to check exposure and forgedaboutit. Have fun! Jul 27, 2006 at 05:26 PM

LDR99 Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Feb 23, 2005 Total Posts: 274 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks Nill Toulme wrote: I almost always shot my 1D at +2/3. (I usually shoot my Mark II's at + 1/3.) If you shoot a lot, two extra batteries are very useful. (One is enough with a Mark II.) Read, digest, and read again this document. Nill ~~ www.toulme.net This document is worth its weight in gold. Read it a third time after you have used the camera for a couple of weeks. Lorin Jul 27, 2006 at 06:23 PM

trueimage Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Apr 16, 2004 Total Posts: 792 Country: Canada Re: 1D Tips and Tricks Thanks for the document link! So, is my above post right about "exposing to the right"? Jul 27, 2006 at 09:46 PM

Cicopo Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Apr 15, 2006 Total Posts: 711 Country: Canada Re: 1D Tips and Tricks May I also thank Jeremy and Nill for the links. I too am still trying to get a handle on my 1Ds bought used in the spring. I tried the tone curves and like 2 of them enough to try some more test shots tomorrow. I received my 24-105 L today so am testing it too. Jul 28, 2006 at 01:11 AM

Nill Toulme Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Sep 05, 2002 Total Posts: 7800 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks The 1D is a camera that responds very well to shooting RAW... if you do you can forget about worrying about tone curves, color spaces, etc. Nill ~~ www.toulme.net Jul 28, 2006 at 02:24 AM

lexvo Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Sep 13, 2002 Total Posts: 3370 Country: Netherlands Re: 1D Tips and Tricks Here are some of my expierences, posted most of it as a thread before: http://www.xs4all.nl/~lex1963/1d-classic.htm http://www.xs4all.nl/~lex1963/1d-high-iso.htm http://www.xs4all.nl/~lex1963/1d-concert.htm And some others made a good point about exposing to the right. The 1D is quite forgiving for overexposure. Jul 28, 2006 at 12:05 PM

EaglePower Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Jul 19, 2006 Total Posts: 138 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks Just bought a 1D. I had a 10D and 20D. Bought the 1D for shooting football and soccer this fall. Great thread on the 1D. Thanks to all who have given advice. This camera seems to be a different beast than either my 10D or 20D. I hope I an live with the fewerpixel count. I guess you just have to frame it better with less cropping. Jul 28, 2006 at 01:37 PM

shawnpatrick Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Jan 19, 2005 Total Posts: 38 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks I got my 1D last Friday so I am also here to say thanks for all the advice. I never used raw on my 300d because it was just so slow to clear the buffer. Now I've got raw+jpeg and really only use the jpegs to review before I open photoshop. I had no idea that raw was so much better! I had planned to wait for whatever was new in September but decided that the price on a 1D wouldn't drop that fast over the next year but the new camera would probably be $500 less by next summer. Again, thanks for all the new user tips! Jul 28, 2006 at 01:49 PM

Me_XMan Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Nov 18, 2004 Total Posts: 1763 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks 1D and 20D are the best value cameras in price/performance. Jul 28, 2006 at 02:01 PM

Nill Toulme Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Sep 05, 2002 Total Posts: 7800 Country: United States Re: 1D Tips and Tricks EaglePower wrote: ... I hope I can live with the fewerpixel count. I guess you just have to frame it better with less cropping. You can. I sold lots of 13x19 prints from cropped 1D frames. Not so many pixels, maybe, but they're *really* good pixels. ;-) Nill ~~ www.toulme.net Jul 28, 2006 at 02:41 PM

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