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Molokai
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I am just so totally blown away by the different pictures posted by the wedding photographers on here.

I do realize though that a lot of the magic of these pictures (in addition to great composition, correct exposure, timing, positioning and other pro skills), comes down to proper postprocessing.

Having done a search and found rather little here on FM for wedding PP (I fear my search skills are to blame) I wondered if some of you folks would be so kind as to post one before (more-or-less untouched original) and after picture, and maybe even share some of the PP steps you went through in order to achieve the result?

Myself I am just a hobbyist who will be shooting a wedding for a friend this coming thursday (yes I know all the issues, and posted about this some months ago on here. Basically he is also a hobbyust photographer and knows what I am good for, and him and the bride-to-be have looked at my online pictures - this post is about postprocessing, not about wether or not I should photograph this particular wedding :) ).

Thanks for sharing!


May 22, 2006 at 05:57 AM
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There was a before and after post where a number of forum members posted before and after post processing pictures. Results on some were stunning. Try and find that thread and you will see what people do.

May 22, 2006 at 09:53 AM
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Dennis
Shawnstar started the thread you mention but I can't find it now.

Molokai
Try a PM to shawn he's a nice guy from Hawaii and ask where the post went as there was loads of great work in it. i meant to save it but didn't


May 22, 2006 at 11:46 AM
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I really like this glow technique, it really improves skin texture. Create a duplicate layer, and then set the blending mode to "screen". Then just add a a Gaussian Blur with a radius of 15 to 25 pixels. Also, you may need to reduce opacity and/or lower exposure, as it can blow highlights.

Here's a couple examples:

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May 22, 2006 at 05:31 PM
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May 22, 2006 at 05:31 PM
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May 22, 2006 at 05:32 PM
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May 22, 2006 at 05:32 PM
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Try to play with these actions:
The first set is free:
http://www.thelightsrightstudio.com/photoshop-tools.htm
You would need to combine a few actions for complete effect, like soft portrait and vigneting.

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May 22, 2006 at 05:46 PM
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Chris
I use Hard Light also with the blur. It's always worth playing around with the blending modes at different opacities and use moree than one layer - screen with blur and a hard light with blur. You can create some nice effects.

Nice PP by the way.

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May 22, 2006 at 06:09 PM
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I guess I missed that other thread too. Would have been nice to see but I couldn't find it when I searched. Well, here is an extreme example. Not really sure how everything managed to go wrong with this photo but with a lot of dodging, desaturating, and a good white fuzzy vignette, it works now.

http://www.tearoseimages.net/before%20and%20after1.jpg



May 22, 2006 at 06:48 PM
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jimdavies wrote:
Chris
I use Hard Light also with the blur. It's always worth playing around with the blending modes at different opacities and use moree than one layer - screen with blur and a hard light with blur. You can create some nice effects.

Nice PP by the way.

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Jim


Thanks Jim. I have experimented with different blend modes, but for people shots, screen blend seems to produce the best results. Overlay and Hard Light usually produce nice effects for landscapes and products, but seem to contrasty for faces.

I've never tried more than one blend layer. I'll check that out. Thanks again.


May 22, 2006 at 11:19 PM
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june3883 wrote:
Tag 3


Just for anyone interested, it looks like threads on this forum have a very limited lifespan. There's only about 6 pages of threads in total at any one time and it looks like once a thread is unchanged for about a fortnight it is purged.

The thread mentioned earlier (with lot's of examples of post-processing) was only a few weeks ago but will have been purged by now.


May 23, 2006 at 12:28 AM
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Well, by searching I have found posts that are like 300+ days old - but it is kind of strange that only 8 pages of history are available here now :(

I guess we need to keep on posting new examples of postprocessing then, to keep the thread here :D


May 23, 2006 at 10:22 AM
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ChrisDM wrote:
I really like this glow technique, it really improves skin texture. Create a duplicate layer, and then set the blending mode to "screen". Then just add a a Gaussian Blur with a radius of 15 to 25 pixels. Also, you may need to reduce opacity and/or lower exposure, as it can blow highlights.


Chris,

Thanks for the tip. I tried it in a couple of pics and the result is quite good.


May 26, 2006 at 12:15 AM
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I have yet to see a thread last an entire fortnight, 20 days...

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May 26, 2006 at 05:17 AM
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zorro16480 wrote:
This is FANTASTIC! Do you have any more "glowing" tips under your sleeve? I sure would appreciate more examples if you have time.



No prob, zorro. There are lots of variations of the glow technique. I learned them from the book "How to Wow: Photoshop for Photography" by Jack Davis. It works really well for B&W images as well. Here's a B&W example, followed by a color glow example from the same series:







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May 26, 2006 at 04:03 PM
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Color version:




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May 26, 2006 at 04:03 PM
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zorro16480 wrote:
Hi,

Did you use the same trick on this one also or did you do something different compared to your previous photos?


zorro, these were all done with a gaussian blur layer with blend mode set to screen. However, as jimdavies pointed out earlier in this thread, changing the blend mode of the blur layer creates different effects. Other blend modes that work are overlay, hard light, and soft light (that I know of). You can also stack multiple blur layers for a different effect.


May 26, 2006 at 04:56 PM
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One that also works fine is making two layers one in lighten and one in darken mode. Put a 30-40 gaussian blur on the layers and lover their opacity to arround 30. Merge the blurred layers and put a mask on and paint throug arround eyes, moth an jawline.



May 26, 2006 at 05:24 PM
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ChrisDM wrote:
zorro16480 wrote:
Hi,

Did you use the same trick on this one also or did you do something different compared to your previous photos?


zorro, these were all done with a gaussian blur layer with blend mode set to screen. However, as jimdavies pointed out earlier in this thread, changing the blend mode of the blur layer creates different effects. Other blend modes that work are overlay, hard light, and soft light (that I know of). You can also stack multiple blur layers for a different effect.


Chris
Great images. I use multiple layers sometimes too. Here's a couple of mine with a blur effect.



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And a last one with just small exposure tweak and a very small level of diffuse glow.



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May 26, 2006 at 11:30 PM
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here is one from the old "Before and Afters" thread...too bad that thread died...lots of folks took time to contribute to it.



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May 30, 2006 at 08:42 AM
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shawnstarr03 wrote:
here is one from the old "Before and Afters" thread...too bad that thread died...lots of folks took time to contribute to it.



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how did you work on that third picture? thanks!


May 30, 2006 at 08:24 PM
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jimdavies wrote:
Dennis
Shawnstar started the thread you mention but I can't find it now.

Molokai
Try a PM to shawn he's a nice guy from Hawaii and ask where the post went as there was loads of great work in it. i meant to save it but didn't


I saved a link to that thread but alas it is no more. The link is/was below if it helps to resurrect it. I thought FM kept an archive (?)

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/286172

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May 31, 2006 at 02:04 AM
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I was wondering if anyone would share a workflow that they use to batch process the photos before opening all the shots up for detailed scrutiny / processing...

I'm still trying to work out an automated workflow that will process my photos while I'm sleeping (another hobby of mine... beside photography), so all i need to do after that is is adjust the curves, crop/resize.

oh .. anyway I'm based in asia so I'm not too sure how things work out over there, how many shots you typically end up with etc etc, but here, a traditional wedding ceremony generates heaps of photos that usually make drive me crazy during processing ...

Anyway, the workflow I'm currently playing around with is
1) Auto levels (to optimise the tonal range)
2) Shadows/Highlights ( to bring back some of the shadows and highlights )
3) Curve Adjustment (for contrast and brightness)
4) Resize
5) Sharpen (USM)

Step 1 also has the unfortunate side effect of 'white balancing' my photos on occassion, which somehow drives me nuts....

I still find something lacking in the photos, but this preps the photo up for further processing so i can go through the images faster.

This workflow is definitely going to change, as I'm picking up more tips from the internet, fellow photographers etc. and I may post a refined workflow when I get something I'm happy with.






May 31, 2006 at 06:02 AM
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I am using Rawshooter Premium from Pixmantec which is a great rawconverter, that really speeds up my workflow. Try the free version and judge before spending 59 $ on the full version, which as one of the smart features automatically finds your folders on the CF card. I have nothing to do with the compagny, but when you try great software, then it is difficult not to get excited and tell about it.

May 31, 2006 at 07:01 AM

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