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There is yet another player looking to grab part of the higher-end ballhead market, attempting to join the likes of Arca-Swiss, Markins, Kirk, Really Right Stuff, PhotoClam, and a few others most of us are familiar with. SunwayFoto is based in Shenzhen, China, and I was contacted by one of the company principals requesting my review and honest criticism of this ballhead - The DB-44 with DDC-50LR clamp mounted.

Here’s a link to the company’s ballhead page, although the ballhead I received has a lever clamp mounted, rather than the pictured screw clamp:

http://www.sunwayfoto.com/html/products/200912/160.html

To start with, this ballhead is of the “traditional” design, dating back to the Arca-Swiss B1, and it appears similar to the Markins, Kirk, and PhotoClam products as well. Size-wise (500g), this ballhead places about even with the Markins Q10LR (aka M10 @ 490g), and is a tad heavier than the RRS BH-40LR (480g). This mid-sized class of ballhead is often paired with a Series-2 (to use Gitzo’s reference scale) tripod, and the combination is usually considered stable with lenses up to the size/weight of a typical 300/4 or 70-200/2.8.

The ballhead appears to be of very high quality, in both the materials used and the finishing of the exterior surfaces. All the alloy parts appear to be anodized, rather than painted, for a smooth hard finish, although I’m no expert on such details. It’s not quite as shiny as the painted PhotoClam, nor quite as matte as the anodized Markins or RRS. This is a two knob design; one for the panning brake, and another for the ball friction control. The small panning brake knob has sharp axial grooves for an easy grip, while the larger friction control knob has a fine diamond-point knurling pattern. Both work well bare-handed or with gloves, and the friction control knob also has a smaller thumb-screw built into its face for setting a minimum drag level. There is a numbered scale on the friction control knob, next to the ballhead body, but that scale is not adjustable, so it’s just for reference, not absolute value. The two knobs are spaced 60-degrees apart on the ballhead body. The ballhead panning base has a 30-degree window, with a painted white arrow to indicate rotation around the degree scale fixed on the ballhead body in 5-degree increments. Finally, the ballhead body has double drop-notches spaced 90-degrees apart, and when the ball shaft is dropped into a notch, it rests at 90-degrees from vertical.

Now the details about how this ballhead behaves in real-world use. For testing purposes the ballhead was mounted on my Gitzo G2541LVL tripod, using a 3/8" stud and the standard Gitzo Safe Lock mounting plate.

Pro’s:

* As already mentioned, the knobs are easy to grip and use, with precise control of the ball friction and minimum drag settings.

* Build-quality, fit and finish are excellent.

* The lever clamp does what a good lever clamp should do. It releases and clamps quickly, and has a halfway position to allow adjustment of the lens or camera plate without a complete release. Safety notches will keep the plate from sliding out of the clamp, if the plate has safety screws installed. The clamp has a bullseye level on the side opposite the lever, so it can be easily seen with a camera mounted. As with the recent lever clamps from Markins and A-S, this clamp has an adjustable closed position, so like a screw clamp, it will work with virtually any plate within a reasonable tolerance of the A-S standard dimensions. Nonetheless, it’s not advisable to mix and match too many different brands of plates, because the clamp adjustment isn’t something you’d want to perform every time. A small knurled knob nests inside the clamp body, between the lever and mounting screw hole. Finally, the lever arm itself is reversible, so you can flip it 180-degrees either way, to match your preference, and there is a small sliding button on the end of the lever. This is a nice safety measure, and addresses the concerns of those who fear a lever clamp’s unintended opening. Generally, a very serviceable clamp, and out of the box it was perfectly adjusted to secure my RRS and Kirk plates properly. The adjustment did not seem to change on its own, during my several weeks of use.

* The panning base, with the brake released, is firm to adjust and very smooth, with its degree scale easy to visualize.

Con’s:

* This one is a big pet peeve of mine, yet it seems common to just about every ballhead based on this “traditional” design. The panning “lock” slips, which is why I have been referring to it as a panning “brake”. The knob can be tightened until you’re tearing skin off your fingertips, and still the base will slip under some conditions. For example, getting the ballhead screwed tightly to the tripod (or unscrewing it, too) can be an issue, because if it’s not tight enough you’ve got two different areas which might allow the ballhead to pan when you don’t want it to. Having a long lens mounted, because of the leverage it can apply to the panning base, can also cause some slipping. The smaller the ballhead, the more prone to slipping its panning base seems to be. So, the Markins Q3 seems worse than the Q10, and this Sunway feels about the same as the Q10 or PhotoClam PC-44 of similar size. I should probably just get over it, but the RRS BH-40 has spoiled me in this regard.

* There is another issue which may bother me more than others, but which also may ultimately be resolved. The ball friction knob provides very precise adjustment, and it’s easy to set an “ideal” friction level which will allow the ball to move only when touched, yet stay in place on its own. To me, this is the true benefit of using a ballhead, rather than a pan-tilt or geared head. The issue with this ballhead (and some others) is that when the ballhead is set to this “ideal” friction level, intended movements of the ball are not especially smooth. In the case of the RRS BH-40, I’ve found the same issue, and RRS has addressed it with two responses. One is to allow some time for the ballhead to “break-in”, and after some many hours of use, my BH-40 did improve in smoothness and feel. The Sunway DB-44LR also has improved over the past weeks I’ve been using it. The other response from RRS is that some form of lubrication can be applied to the ball friction surface (they recommend a light machine oil or WD-40), with the caution that this is not reversible and may require additional friction force to maintain the ball’s position. I took a chance, and a few years ago first tried the application of some synthetic polymer automotive wax to the BH-40 ball. The smoothness improved immediately, right up to the level of the best I’ve ever used - the Markins ballheads (which are buttery-smooth right from the box). The wax would wear off fairly quickly, though, so I tried something else, which turned out to be a spray silicone lubricant:

http://www.gunk.com/CAT_AM914_6.asp

I applied a good bit to a paper towel and applied the wet lubricant to the ball while spinning it in the drop-notch. This product has a solvent base which evaporates very quickly, so I did nothing to dry the ball, and there is no visible residue left on the ball. The silicone lasts for a good several months on the RRS, and after application of the same to the Sunway, I now had three ballheads with that silky Markins feel (one of which is the Q3). I’ve found no need to increase the friction setting, at least that I could notice, which was a surprise, and if there is a downside to this particular lubricant in this application, I haven’t found it. I have spoken to SunwayFoto about this, and they are currently investigating the same lubricant, and may apply it during assembly of their ballheads, if they feel a benefit can be realized. So, this con perhaps isn’t a real issue, but I felt compelled to bring it up, and provide what may be a very viable solution.

* I should also briefly mention that when tightening the friction knob from that “ideal” friction level to fully-locked, initially there was some noticeable movement of the camera’s position. If the camera/lens was front-heavy the lens would aim down slightly, or if the combination was rear-heavy the lens would creep up. After initial break-in and subsequent lubrication, this has all but disappeared, and the ball remains static when locking it firmly. So, another con which is not likely to be consequential.

Other comments:

As mentioned, this market is becoming somewhat crowded, and for one of these companies to stand proud of their competitors is becoming more difficult. There is an obvious convergence where ballheads are all starting to look the same, feel about the same, and be priced about the same (excepting RRS, of course). In this regard, the SunwayFoto DB-44LR fits into the pack discretely. Considering my experiences with the ballheads from Markins, SunwayFoto, and PhotoClam, I’d rate them as best to worst in that particular order. That is not to say the differences are great, but they are palpable. The SunwayFoto is very close to the Markins in fit and finish, and a bit better than the PhotoClam. But, the Sunway is closer in operation (“feel” might be a better term) to the PhotoClam than either is to the Markins. Remember, the Markins is silky-smooth and rock-solid right from the box, with no “break-in” or lubrication required, while both the SunwayFoto and PhotoClam are a little “draggy” and can show some minor slippage as ballhead friction is adjusted.

As far as I know, SunwayFoto does not have a formally-established US-based distributor at this point, although I have been told there is one potential company in talks. So, it appears that eBay auctions are the only US-based source right now, and a current auction from a Texas-based vendor has a “Buy-It-Now” price of $248 shipped. I don’t have any information regarding the warranty for SunwayFoto products, but I will inquire about the terms during my next contact with the company.

Conclusion:

Recommended, or not? That’s the big question I don’t have a definitive answer to. I liked using the DB-44LR and will continue to use it. The DB-44LR, if the price of $248 is realistic, is potentially a very good value against the alternatives I’ve mentioned, particularly if one is fond of using a lever-type QR clamp. The PhotoClam PC-44NS with a screw-type clamp is $269 + shipping, while the Markins Q10 with a lever clamp is $369 + shipping, and the Markins Q3 with a lever clamp is $309 + shipping. If you seen my posts in this FM gear forum, you’ll rarely find a word recommending anyone save a few dollars now on a piece of photo gear destined for the long-term use, whether it’s a ballhead, tripod, or quick release system. Of course, if a good value can be had, I’m not one to necessarily pass it by just to spend more money, either. The unknowns in the SunwayFoto equation include long-term durability, the current lack of a US distributor, and potential warranty repair issues.

I haven’t had the time to do a tear-down of the DB-44LR, but will do so shortly. My only reservation is that I might not be able to get it back together, and I’d like to have this ballhead around for continued long-term testing.

Questions, comments? Please feel free to post to this thread, and I’ll answer what I can. I’ve been impressed by my communications with SunwayFoto, and believe the company is sincere in wanting to both improve their products and in their desire to be made aware of any limitations that currently exist. I’ll be sure to pass any such information along, and I think SunwayFoto will be following this thread as well.

Just as an aside, I’ve seen it mentioned that I’ve got some fellow flashlight enthusiasts here on FM. SunwayMan, a sister or parent company to SunwayFoto, makes some interesting LED flashlights, which are available from a variety of US vendors. This is not a paid endorsement (nor is my ballhead review), but the fact that they’ve already established a viable product line in the US can be a positive indicator of their business experience here.

Finally, some detail pictures, which should be obviously self-explanatory:

http://deanwcains.smugmug.com/photos/1102993470_wozeH-L.jpg

http://deanwcains.smugmug.com/photos/1102993354_8uESy-L.jpg

http://deanwcains.smugmug.com/photos/1102992993_i9TgD-L.jpg

http://deanwcains.smugmug.com/photos/1102993242_9xnDu-L.jpg

http://deanwcains.smugmug.com/photos/1102993111_rTisB-L.jpg

http://deanwcains.smugmug.com/photos/1102992846_8SBTG-L.jpg



Nov 24, 2010 at 03:12 AM
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what aluminum alloy do they use?



Nov 24, 2010 at 07:58 AM
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Very concise and well presented review, Dean. Will be interesting to see how this ballhead is performing after a year or so. From your pics the finish does not look like anodizing... too much texture in the finish.

Thanks,

Greg



Nov 24, 2010 at 11:07 AM
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sjms wrote:
what aluminum alloy do they use?


Don't know, but I'll ask. I at least wanted to pull off the clamp last night, but I can't find the appropriate hex key, which is probably in the bottom of one of my bags.

SunwayFoto did send me a photo of the ballhead disassembled, but I'll still break this one down as soon as I have a few hours:

http://deanwcains.smugmug.com/photos/1103289820_oKcVR-L.jpg



Nov 24, 2010 at 11:49 AM
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bitmaker wrote:
Very concise and well presented review, Dean. Will be interesting to see how this ballhead is performing after a year or so. From your pics the finish does not look like anodizing... too much texture in the finish.

Thanks,

Greg


The texture isn't something you can feel at all, and in-person it looks like anodizing (almost exactly like the Markins' finish). I think it's just the harsh lighting I used, as I'm not much of a product photographer. I'll be able to tell for sure when I get it disassembled, and can make some scratches on unexposed areas.



Nov 24, 2010 at 11:54 AM
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I applied a good bit to a paper towel and applied the wet lubricant to the ball while spinning it in the drop-notch. This product has a solvent base which evaporates very quickly, so I did nothing to dry the ball, and there is no visible residue left on the ball. The silicone lasts for a good several months on the RRS
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Thanks for the "tip"...The "jerky" friction brake feel of the RRS is only slightly annoying but the silicon "trick" seems to have improved the feel.

Steve



Nov 24, 2010 at 01:35 PM
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sjms wrote:
what aluminum alloy do they use?


From my contact at SunwayFoto:

The material we use is aircraft grade aluminum AL6061, adopt Military Specification Type III hard anodized.

Under normal use, it can keep the same appearance for about five years. And presently we warrants our products to be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use for a period of 30months.


Hope that answers a few questions. Also, the numbered scale on the friction knob is adjustable, but is a bit stiff, so as not to slip on its own.



Nov 30, 2010 at 01:37 AM
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So, did you indeed get to tear your new ball head apart? How is it working? I just ordered the DB-52LR.


Feb 28, 2011 at 08:31 AM
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I'd like to tear it apart, but it's working so well that I keep making excuses not to. I'm not so sure I'd be able to get it back together. If it was an Italian car, no problem


Feb 28, 2011 at 11:35 AM
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In your list of cons, the infamous Markins characteristic of difficulty in the tightening of the panning brake (lock) pops up again. I'm an old guy and have little problem tightening the Markins lock to my satisfaction without losing any skin. Some people use a strap wrench to tighten a BH which I find totally ridiculous. I simply tighten the lock, with the tripod legs not extended, I twirl the BH between my fingers and let inertia lock it. I have been doing it for years
In the case of the Markins, it is never going to be without this characteristic. Just think about it, you have a small screw pressing against a small diameter center post, how tight is it going to get? There is a severe leverage disadvantage like stopping a 32" wheel on an SUV with 10" disc brakes.

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Feb 28, 2011 at 01:59 PM
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And again, that's why the RRS BH-40 continues to be my first choice. That the Markins can't lock securely is a design flaw, not a "feature", as Markins describes it. Heads of similar outward appearance don't seem to have this issue, such as the Arca-Swiss B1 and Z1.


Feb 28, 2011 at 02:07 PM
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After looking at that pic, I'm not sure I'd want to tear into one....

;- )

I'm very happy with the Sunway clamp I have on my Arca P0 head.



Feb 28, 2011 at 02:19 PM
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Well not to turn this into a Markins/RRS debate but I returned a RRS BH 40 because the friction adjustment was unable to support a D700 with a 105 macro lens. No need to lube or wax the ball either on any of my BH's. You just have to pick the features you like and use whatever BH that works for you. But for whatever feature you like on your BH of choice, there are probably two features that another user doesn't like.


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Got my DB-52LR today ... OMG!!!*

I am at a loss for words, today. I mean it works like silk right out of the box and out in below freezing Ukrainian temps. I think I love it almost as my Ukrainian wife....almost. Only $307. I ordered their Universal DPL-02 L-Plate for my D300s, it fits like a glove, battery access!!! And a plate for my Tokina 50-135... All at $422. Plus modest shipping fee direct from the factory in China.

I am loving the knurled knobs too. But just short: I did not have a problem with the panning lock/brake slipping, yet.
I don't have a larger lens, as I really am not interested in one. But already my macro set up with the R1C1 is no heavier than the Tokina 50-135, so I feel I will always be well within the 48 kilo range of the head.
So far, today, so good, we will see in the coming weeks.
No, I am not taking it apart either. :-)

Warranty is ONE year, if you register online you get an additional 18 months, so 2.5 years not to bad.

*That is an Official Really Good OMG. Is OMG and official technical description? Rachel Ray got EVOO in Webster's...



Mar 10, 2011 at 03:13 PM
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dcains wrote:
From my contact at SunwayFoto:

The material we use is aircraft grade aluminum AL6061, adopt Military Specification Type III hard anodized.

Under normal use, it can keep the same appearance for about five years. And presently we warrants our products to be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use for a period of 30months.


Hope that answers a few questions. Also, the numbered scale on the friction knob is adjustable, but is a bit stiff, so as not to slip on its own.


excellent



Mar 10, 2011 at 05:18 PM
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I learned to use a Bridgeport Series Knee-Mill many years ago, and used T-6061 to make small parts for my designs in an EM environment. This product is obviously milled with newer technology, but I can appreciate the care taken in the set up and programming to produce this. Though manufacturing technology has long passed me by I can still call a piece of crap, as we all can really, when we see it. This is not crap, not by a frigging long shot.

With Sunwayfoto, I believe we have a group of photographers who set out to do business with the clear intent to stay in business, and clearly are targeting the high-end market. They have a healthy respect for the competition, have a large base already in China (who are no slouches when it comes to cinematography). They have a large range of environments at home to sell to, and I understand there are some Russians far north of them already using Sunway products in the Siberian Paradise (cough).

They understand pricing very well, charging enough to make it attractive but not low enough to scare you off, if you get my meaning. The prices I paid are not only fair, but I know I got my money's worth. Now over time and use will tell on the ball, but it is not slack out of the box. This folks, is the "new China", my beloved iMacs are made there and I still hold a significant amount of Apple stock, I am not displeased with the quality.

I am looking for a GOOD table top tri-pod for macro photography and getting down in the dirt, I know where the ball head is coming from. And I am seriously looking at their Pano-1 set up, just because I think I want it (desire=want=need ).

What does Sunwayfoto lack? Maybe a few specialty parts, maybe a few more L-plates for battery grips, but most of all they are missing advertising and exposure to the western market. Distribution is a slow process to start. My hope is that as they grow internationally they do not slack on quality to make mass market profit. Keep at the pace they have now, keep the quality and pricing and advertise, keys to long term acceptance in the photo market. It will not be an easy road. But I expect patience on the part of a serious company will pay off for them in the long run, and for us as users also.

I like my choice. It is 0 degrees C outside, ice and snow will be melting soon, I'm heading out while it is still cold to mess with this, soon this place will be a slogfest of mud, just what Stalin ordered for the Germans and I will have a nice wet dirty environment to play in, during the summer the Ukrainian steppes has plenty of dust ... oh boy.


DPL-02 L-Plate, fits perfectly on the Nikon D300s, total battery access! However your BM-8 LCD cover is in the way of the flange, but I use a GGS Crystal cover anyway so it is not a real problem.

The DPL-02 has safety screws on the vertical axis not the horizontal, the DPG-76 does not have safety screws either. So, being a careful person, it is not a problem for me as I have adjusted the clamp's plate screw perfectly anyway. Might be an issue if you use multiple manufacturer's plates in your set up, but Sunway cautions you about this.

Adjustable scale on the main knob of the ball head is cool, set it once and forget it.

I understand there is a new extended service in the warranty in the works to extend to 5 years.



Mar 11, 2011 at 12:57 AM
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Sunday Mar 13, 2011

Finally the cold is gone, if I want ice I will have to use the fridge. If I had a Thermatron oven to test environments I would, I suspect that will have to be used by someone in the states who has access to one.

My thumbs are sore, I have released and rotated the lever clamp 2000 times using a load to clamp into, a D300s MBD-10 with batteries and Tokina 50-135 total weight 5lb. 8oz., I was too lazy to add the SB900:

1) pull back release lever
2) remove camera
3) reverse clamp lever to left or right depending on previous
4) rotate camera to horz/vert depending on previous
5) mount and close clamp
6) unlock panning base, rotate 360 degrees
7) lock base, loosen ball head past sweet spot, move camera in random directions, lock back at level.
Rinse and repeat, god this sucks, but I figure I will stop after 5000. My wife thinks I'm crazy.

I am watching movies on my computer while I do this because it is mind numbing (all 6 Star Wars, LOTR Extended versions etc., besides it's the only English stuff I have to watch...)

The pressure on the clamp and leaver has not changed, that I can tell. Everything still feels the same, smooth movement, solid and secure in the base. Today, I will sling the tripod over my shoulder and hike out around town to the park. Of course, I will tether the L-Plate with a leather strap to the strap loop on the tripod, I am not COMPLETELY crazy. I will have completed my 5000 in a couple more days.

There is not much else I can do on the repetition phase, the rest will just have to be regular use. The OP has done a much better job than I have in reporting, all I can add is that this is a larger head and the panning lock/brake so far has no issues.

Now, that being said, I have this mounted on a Manfrotto 055CXPRO4, the base of the DB-52LR is 73mm, it partially covers the bubble level on the tripod base, so leveling the base to make panos properly is slightly problematic, but that is my problem and no fault of Manfrotto or Sunwayfoto. This is a wonderful excuse to either buy a new tripod or the RSS BH55-LVL for $45 which will hold the 73mm base perfectly. Considering the shipping of a new tripod here is only slightly higher than shipping the little panning base I might was well go for the tripod (and eventual divorce I am sure, but if I buy her flowers....) Anyone have the Manfrotto 057 series yet?

OMG the kid is watching Alvin and the Chipmunks(Movie) in the next room ... do you know how annoying the Chipmunks sound singing "Christmas Don't Be Late" in Ukrainian? Now THAT makes me crazy ....

Thanks for your time.


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5000 repetitions from the above post finished. I have a blister on my right index finger and thumb.

I returned the RRS L-Plate I borrowed off a fellow photographer's D700 for his battery grip and reinstalled my Sunwayfoto DPL-02.

I am very pleased to say that the entire set up works just like it did out of the box. Smooth ball movement, no creeping at any angle, the lock down and sweet spot are the same feeling, pan base rotation is still smooth with the same resistance all the way around and the clamp is just as tight as when I started. I did NOT have to readjust the clamp. The lubricant is still effective.

So why bother you ask?
First: No I am not paid by anyone to do this.

Second: This to me is no different than when I worked at Apple stressing electronic components under various conditions, or drop testing falling Macs with accelerometers attached to test for stress and damage while in and out of the box. That was a very instructive and fun thing!

Third: I did this because someone might wonder how it does perform after long term use. I have given you 5000 of the above, in as rapid succession as I could on some hundreds of them. Was it "real world"? It was performed while in the house, while I was sitting or standing, mindlessly and mechanically doing the same thing over and over, stopping every 25 to mark it down on a sheet of paper. Maybe a few extra were done while outside and around town. If you do this once a day you now have 13.69 years of movement, do it twice 6.84 years. The single test takes me just under 40 seconds.

Is this a good test? Yes and no. Good for me, because I am 100% confident of the ball head and clamp I have in my possession. No, because I only did it for ONE. As a side note, I did not include a remote wired trigger on this as it would actually slow me down, add about 10 seconds to the time because it whips around, bangs into crap and is a general annoyance, this made me want to add a Pocket Wizard just to dump the wire.

Would I do it on more heads, NO, not unless I was paid because it is a pain in the ass. IF I had another ball head for another tripod would I do it again for myself? No. Why? Aside from being a PITA, I am confident that a CNC setup can repeat the same cutting many times over, so I am confident in Sunway's ability to make repeated products with the same tolerance. If their Q&A pops a set off of production for inspection and finds an error I am sure they will adjust as needed.

So, WHY? Why do this? Why spend the money on a relatively unknown company outside in China, why not just go RRS or Markins and follow the rest of tried and true? To answer that question is not so simple, the short is "No one ever got lost on a straight road." I remember working for Steve Jobs in our very early days at Apple, he taught me to "think different". I picked up my entire life and moved from USA to Ukraine, a little ball head action (oh that sounds nasty!) is not a big deal. And I like underdogs, I am not trying to buck the system, but I guess I am. I am looking for an alternative and not afraid to give it a shot. In this case I am 100% happy.

No this is not a totally different design, but it is a solid start and I am duly impressed. I found photos of their new ball head design, this is a company destined to be around for a long time. EVERYONE starts from zero, EVERYONE, and Sunwayfoto is well past the starting point.

So ...
What it boils down to:

Is the product good? Yes, so far so good, and I am 100% confident in the item that I have.
Is the price right? Hell yes. Money is tight for everyone, this is a solid, long term value.
Would I recommend this to a friend? Yes, without reservations.
Will I buy more of their products? Yes. More than likely another ball head for my daughter's tripod (once I convince her she needs one), and the Pano-1 set. Though I could use a leveling base now on the Manfrotto and Sunway has one that will work perfectly for me.

Do you know me? Do I have a track record with you? Nope. And that may ultimately be the only real problem you have.

Thanks everyone for reading, thanks to the Nikonians who may have dropped by via link to read. I hope this is of some value to you all.

John Richardson
Bila Tserkov, Ukraine




Mar 16, 2011 at 01:51 AM
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p.1 #19 · SunwayFoto DB-44LR Ballhead Review


Thanks Dcains & Fraucha, you've convinced me to give Sunwayfoto a shot (not to mention Amazon's great return policy - only thing I have to loose is my time). I've used Markins & Photo Clam in the past, but am compelled by the cheaper price and dual slot of the Sunwayfoto.

I've ordered a DB-36TRLR (36mm traveler version). I'm hoping it's a good match for my GH2 + 100-300mm combo on a Feisol 3442 tripod.

Fraucha - did you end up applying silicon to your head, or is it performing great without it? I wonder if Sunwayfoto started applying it in the factory after Dcains' review.

Dcains - I can't get that link to work regarding the silicon. Also, any update after further use?



Apr 06, 2011 at 01:03 PM
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p.1 #20 · SunwayFoto DB-44LR Ballhead Review


Hello ekimzulad:

I have not had to re-lube yet. There is a light coating that is still on the ball that did not wear away after my testing. I still cover the head with a plastic bag when hiking around, I figure there is no sense inviting dust and junk to get caught between uses.

I wonder myself about the time to re-lube and was thinking LSA oil, it was good enough for my M-16, but I best ask Sunway about their specific recommendations and add it to this thread when I get an answer. Oh, that LR adjustment wheel for the clamp is hard to move, I like that a lot, it is not going anywhere on it's own that's for sure.



Apr 06, 2011 at 02:17 PM
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