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Hi, I need some info about the old Rokkor 100mm f/2.
Is there any significant differences between the non-MC and the MC?
I just knew that MC stands for meter coupled not multi coated. So is it just mechanical enhancement in the MC version or the coating too?
Thanks.



Jul 09, 2011 at 11:21 AM
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nixland wrote:
Hi, I need some info about the old Rokkor 100mm f/2.
Is there any significant differences between the non-MC and the MC?
I just knew that MC stands for meter coupled not multi coated. So is it just mechanical enhancement in the MC version or the coating too?
Thanks.


the MC most likely has better coatings as well though i don't know for sure. even within the MC line lenses got coating improvements with time.



Jul 09, 2011 at 05:16 PM
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sebboh wrote:
the MC most likely has better coatings as well though i don't know for sure. even within the MC line lenses got coating improvements with time.


Thanks for the info. The MC is very hard to find
There is one on eBay, but it's a non MC with Sony mount and quite expensive.

I like the rendering of my Rokkor 58/1.2 and 85/1.7. It has unique looks, different from my other lens. Now I want the 100/2.



Jul 10, 2011 at 12:09 AM
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p.5 #4 · p.5 #4 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Here are some of a Great Blue Heron that I took with my Rokkor APO 400mm f/5.6 tonight. As I am using this lens more. I am liking it more all the time.






















Jul 12, 2011 at 01:03 AM
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p.5 #5 · p.5 #5 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Question:

Is there any reason to get the MC version over the MD version of the 85 1.7? Both are the 55mm version and have the dampled focus. Isn't the MD version newer?



Jul 19, 2011 at 08:18 PM
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p.5 #6 · p.5 #6 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Hi Katie,

See this comparison at the Rokkor files:

http://www.rokkorfiles.com/85mm%20Page%201.htm

They do perform in a slightly different way and depending on your shooting style you might prefer one over the other.



Jul 19, 2011 at 08:21 PM
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p.5 #7 · p.5 #7 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


So ... MD is sharper and has better contrast, but MC has better bokeh?


Jul 19, 2011 at 09:03 PM
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KatieInTexas wrote:
Question:

Is there any reason to get the MC version over the MD version of the 85 1.7? Both are the 55mm version and have the dampled focus. Isn't the MD version newer?


if you like metal focus rings, they're only available in early MC versions.



Jul 19, 2011 at 09:58 PM
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p.5 #9 · p.5 #9 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Don't care about the focus ring as long as it works. Which should I get

I plan to use it on not only my NEX5, but my Canon EOS 1v film body as well.



Jul 20, 2011 at 02:24 AM
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KatieInTexas wrote:
Don't care about the focus ring as long as it works. Which should I get

I plan to use it on not only my NEX5, but my Canon EOS 1v film body as well.


don't look at me, i've never got one because i can never find one for under $400 (and i'm so happy with my rokinon). the MD probably has better coatings and the older MCs probably have some yellowing (radioactive), but otherwise i suspect the differences aren't that big.



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p.5 #11 · p.5 #11 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Katie,
Just get whatever one you can find cheaper. The MD Rokkor 85/1.7 is harder to find and usually fetches higher price.
Just like Sebboh suspected, in my experience, the difference is so small. I don't have a preference.

There also is the excellent MD 85/2 which is much smaller than the 85/1.7s and should match well with the NEX.




Jul 20, 2011 at 02:18 PM
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Like the Rokkor files review suggests if you want an all purpose lens I would get the 85 f/2 (it is smaller and cheaper and bit sharper than the MD 85 f/1.7), but if you want it primarily for portraits I would get the MC 85 f/1.7 for its look and bokeh. You really can't go wrong with any of them, however.


Jul 20, 2011 at 03:11 PM
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p.5 #13 · p.5 #13 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Last month I bought the 85/1.7, both the MC & MD. My plan is to compare them and select the one I like the most. Though I already read the comparison in Rokkorfiles website but my curiousity made me want to try it myself

I tried the MC first and woww ... it's love at first sight ... I love it instantly.
Very great rendering. The color, contrast, sharpness and specially the smooth bokeh.
Instantly become my favorite lens, along with Zeiss C/Y, Jupiter-9 silver, Helios 40-2 and Summilux 80.
























Jul 20, 2011 at 03:58 PM
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p.5 #14 · p.5 #14 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


I did a flare test and, well, see the picture below
But it's easy to get rid of, I just put my left hand above the lens as a hood, and the flare's gone.









Jul 20, 2011 at 04:04 PM
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p.5 #15 · p.5 #15 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Thanks for the info Nixland!

I went ahead and got the MD version ... figured if I don't like it, I can sell it and go with the technically easier to find MC version. By the way, KEH has them (several) for under $400.



Jul 20, 2011 at 04:37 PM
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p.5 #16 · p.5 #16 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


KatieInTexas wrote:
By the way, KEH has them (several) for under $400.


yeah, i've been watching keh for a while, most of those started out at $399 if i recall correctly. i'm not in any rush.



Jul 20, 2011 at 06:06 PM
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p.5 #17 · p.5 #17 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


i have MC 85mm 1.7 and it is actually my most loved lens, strong pop effect and simply great atmosphere on the pictures.

here at f/1.7:

- L.


on 5D MarkII



Jul 20, 2011 at 09:12 PM
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p.5 #18 · p.5 #18 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread



MD 85mm f2 by debuggerus, on Flickr



Aug 05, 2011 at 04:47 PM
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Aug 11, 2011 at 06:34 PM
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Hi All, I just got my 100/2 MC from eBay and made it's mount converted to EOS.
First of all, for Minolta camera users I want to say sorry for converting the mount of this lens to EOS. I know that you might dislike what I've done.
I want this lens so bad, waiting and searching intensively on eBay and other online shop every day and night with no result and finally it paid off.
I like my previous Rokkor lenses very much, 58/1.2 & 85/1.7 MC (see my photos above). They have beautiful rendering signature. It made me pursue this 100/2.

After I took the lens from the lens pair (for converting the mount) I went to the mall to give it some test, and here is the result.

#1 PF or CA test. Not a big problem so far. My Zeiss 100/2 C/Y also have the same PF level

#2 Flare test. It lower the contrast but for me it's not a big problem

#3 Sharpest part from the #2 shot (original 100% crop, using 5DII, standard picture style with default setting/no added sharpening)

#4 The bokeh .... so creamy


































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