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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


wow, great shot, sebboh! How did you get so low? I just love it.
Which version of the 135/2.8?



May 06, 2011 at 06:03 PM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


debuggerus wrote:
wow, great shot, sebboh! How did you get so low? I just love it.
Which version of the 135/2.8?


thanks! the beauty of liveview with a flip up screen - i could hold the camera a few inches above the water and still focus and frame just fine. it's the MC PF version with the rubber focus ring.



May 06, 2011 at 06:37 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Anyone else get jammed hoods with these? I've had two and both the hoods have been jammed (the grub screw has wiggled out some how). I managed to force the first one, but gave up with the last one .


May 06, 2011 at 06:48 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


ricardovaste wrote:
Anyone else get jammed hoods with these? I've had two and both the hoods have been jammed (the grub screw has wiggled out some how). I managed to force the first one, but gave up with the last one .


the hood on my present one is just a little loose otherwise no problem. the older metal focus ring version i had, had a perfectly smooth and damped hood.



May 06, 2011 at 07:14 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread




90mm rokkor-m tested on the nex
http://sonyalphanex.blogspot.com/2011/05/nex-with-minolta-90mm-rokkor-m-lens.html



May 16, 2011 at 03:39 AM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Just received my "ugly" grade 135 2.8 MD Tele from KEH today ... and on the outside, it is anything buy ugly. Looks great! The rear element has some major issues, though - it's all crusty looking. Outstide, the images were fine (which is where you have to shoot this lens, anyway) - but inside, they were a hazy mess. No biggie. This lens cost me $16!!!

A few test shots within the last hour, as FEDEX just dumped it on the doorstep. AT my house, as usual.
























May 20, 2011 at 10:26 PM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Oh, and I wanted to add that this lens seems to need more processing than my 50 1.2 or my 24 2.8. Needs a bit more "umphf" or something...

a couple more:














May 20, 2011 at 10:30 PM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


KatieInTexas wrote:
Oh, and I wanted to add that this lens seems to need more processing than my 50 1.2 or my 24 2.8. Needs a bit more "umphf" or something...

a couple more:



love the pig. that extra processing is probably due to whatever's going on with the rear element lowering the contrast. my 135/2.8 seems to require the same amount of processing as your other rokkors.



May 21, 2011 at 03:30 AM
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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


MD Tele Rokkor 2.8/200




Jun 19, 2011 at 10:24 AM
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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Here are a couple of recent ones of a red-winged blackbird and a robin taken with my APO 400mm f/5.6 and a Canon 50D.












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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Diamond Head with MD 300mm f/5.6 plus 2x converter (effective 600mm) with Minolta XK body

http://fgallc.smugmug.com/GeneralGalleries/Miscellaneous/Hawaii/13261859_EDUGB#963827126_sM7Em



Jun 19, 2011 at 08:38 PM
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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


135/2.8 mc tele rokkor, a900








Jun 26, 2011 at 10:26 PM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Rokkor 85mm 1.7 on 5D Mark II




Jun 28, 2011 at 07:19 PM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


I have a few Minolta MF tele lenses, the MD 85/2.0, the MD 135/2.8 (4/4) and a fine MC 200/4.0 .

My problem is, while all of them are very sharp, the purple fringing is quite bad, even stopped down .

For my Sony Nex, I finally got a couple of old Minolta AF tele lenses, the 100-300mm APO and 100-400mm APO; and frankly, they wipe the floor with the MF lenses - and those tele zooms aren't even considered to be that great...

Below are a few comparison shots; not entirely fair testing, but gives you an idea ; I did lots of testing with all my lenses .

I like working with the MF lenses much better, but they just don't cut it - the CA is a major issue, and the old APOs are sharper, too, with better color and detail .








Jun 28, 2011 at 08:12 PM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


You are comparing apples and bananas in the above comparison. It is not old manual focus lenses vs. new autofocus lenses, rather it is non-apo lenses vs apo lenses. I have yet to see any fringing or lateral CA on my MC 400mm f/5.6 APO.


Jun 28, 2011 at 09:54 PM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Apples and bananas? Man you just skipped oranges all together and went right for the bananas... Hehe...

But something's wrong in the above PF examples anyway. I dunno whether it's that his whites are too clipped as in completely blown or if it's the APS-C sensor size S0ny is using or maybe even the reseller source saw fit to remove or radically reduce the lens coating. A combination of those perhaps? I have a few tele-rokkors and I never see nearly that much PF. Some of the other samples in this thread - even this page - would indeed display purple if there was an actual PF problem with them. I think all lenses will show some PF if the whites are extremely blown... no? I've even seen APO lenses do the PF thing when I botched the exposure. But that's me and not really the lens. Right?

From what I've read on-line PF is somewhat tired to focal length too. A 600mm lens will be more susceptible than a 50mm for example. If that's true then it could also factor in that my longest Rokkor is 200mm for both prime and zoom rokkors. Yet looking at the all of the other samples in this thread I don't see it in any of them. A few hints here and there but nothing like what's showing in his samples. So unless everyone is painstakingly removing the PF by hand (I'm not for sure) I have to conclude this much PF is only due to Tomser's setup, his particular copies and etc.

Am I wrong?








Jun 28, 2011 at 10:58 PM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


Bifurcator wrote:
Apples and bananas? Man you just skipped oranges all together and went right for the bananas... Hehe...

But something's wrong in the above PF examples anyway. I dunno whether it's that his whites are too clipped as in completely blown or if it's the APS-C sensor size S0ny is using or maybe even the reseller source saw fit to remove or radically reduce the lens coating. A combination of those perhaps? I have a few tele-rokkors and I never see nearly that much PF. Some of the other samples in this thread - even this page - would indeed display
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i can't speak for that lens but that is much worse than what i'm used to seeing from my 135/2.8 on the NEX. is yours similar to the 200mm? i certainly see loCA but not PF like that.



Jun 29, 2011 at 01:19 AM
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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread



Well, the sample above was maybe a little extreme, and not really done properly; if you are interested here is a link to images of some testing under less demanding circumstances, and with more consistent results --> Image .

Don't get me wrong, I do not want to bash Minolta MF lenses, actually I really want to use them.
I've got a whole bunch of them, as it was my first camera system, and I bought a few more recently.
Today came the MD 4/70-210mm (AF version aka beercan), and I love the feel of it - only I think my copy isn't too good, a bit softish at the long end .

Anyways, I took literally hundreds of test shots in the past few weeks with the Nex-5 , and keep running into CA issues .
The Apo lenses are not entirely free of CA either, but you really have to push them to get any - and they are an old design from the 80s.

To be fair, most of my MF lenses improve a lot by stopping down by just 1-2 stops, and the CA can in most cases be removed fairly easily in Photoshop .



Jun 29, 2011 at 01:51 PM
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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


From the tests posted above, beside the shots with the MC 200/4 having way more exposure vs the AF shots, I noticed that you used the 300-s. That's a 2x converter. The severe purple fringing is likely introduced/emphasized from the converter.
Try to use the lens directly thru a glassless adapter, stop down to the same f-stop as the AF lenses. The NEX will probably have problem metering the manual lenses accurately so you will need to compensate. Don't give up on them yet. You'll be surprise of the result.



Jun 29, 2011 at 08:43 PM
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p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · ROKKOR Telephoto Image Thread


debuggerus wrote:
Don't give up on them yet. You'll be surprise of the result.


Like with any glass, you have to work with it's strengths, rather than putting it into situations where you know it'll struggle



Jun 29, 2011 at 09:06 PM
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