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nampramos wrote:
Yes, and I have done that.

Auto ISO sensitivity contro - ON
Maximum sensitivity - 6400
Minimum shutter speed - AUTO

With this, the D610 is still shooting at 1/30 or 1/60 and ISO 100 with the 105/2.5 Ai that I got today in the mail. What else do I need to turn on/off?

Try changing the minimum shutter speed from auto to 1/160th



Apr 15, 2014 at 04:37 PM
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p.3653 #2 · p.3653 #2 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


The problem actually seems to be the ISO.

Does Auto ISO work in Aperture priority mode? (EDIT: in Manual mode it also does not bump up the ISO).

On the ISO menu, I have the following:

ISO sensitivity 100 (this should be AUTO here but I cannot select auto)

Auto ISO sensitivity contro - ON
Maximum sensitivity - 6400
Minimum shutter speed - AUTO



Apr 15, 2014 at 04:41 PM
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p.3653 #3 · p.3653 #3 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Ken Hill wrote:
That's reasonable ISO. The point I learned was that if it is on AUTO, the ISO needs to be limited since I never use it, when I do its a learning curve for me. I always default to a bit underexposed on about everything I shoot so I normally pop the EV to where it needs to be in PP. This seems to get me greater details.

Now the Df is the ISO rig that I bet over time will change everyone's thinking about stepping over the 1600 ISO line!



Interesting that you underexpose Ken. The rule I learned comes from analyses that shows digital files contain MORE information in overexposed areas than in under-exposed areas... hence the suggestion to expose to the right end of the histogram. Although cameras are much improved, under-exposing can leave noise in shadow areas. I always find it amazing how far images can be overexposed and still salvaged in post. Here is a description of how information is captured by the sensor...

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/expose-right.shtml

This may be of less significance with the latest cameras but it is an interesting subject to consider...



Apr 15, 2014 at 04:44 PM
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p.3653 #4 · p.3653 #4 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Stokesey wrote:
Ray ..... I have reverted to real nerd mode with manual lenses .... back to total manual control ... except for the electronics of course.

So manual aperture, manual shutter speed, and manual ISO .... how Old School is that ....

It is so good to go back and re-live those days of Nikon F2 Photomic heads and total manual usage ....

I can't think of a better way to treat these wonderful lenses .....

Having said that ... if I want point & shoot .... then I can just switch to Ken Rockwells Professional mode

Tee hee hee

Steve


I like your style Steve! I know auto ISO is a preference. We have so many new people using these beautiful lenses for the first time. I thought sharing my technique might help the transition coming from auto focus, auto settings, VR and yes even Professional mode



Apr 15, 2014 at 04:44 PM
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nampramos wrote:
The problem actually seems to be the ISO.

Does Auto ISO work in Aperture priority mode? (EDIT: in Manual mode it also does not bump up the ISO).

On the ISO menu, I have the following:

ISO sensitivity 100 (this should be AUTO here but I cannot select auto)

Auto ISO sensitivity contro - ON
Maximum sensitivity - 6400
Minimum shutter speed - AUTO


try this:

ISO sensitivity 100 >

auto iso sensitivity control - on
Maximum sensitivity 6400
Minimum shutter speed - 1/160




Apr 15, 2014 at 04:52 PM
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A fun question for all you desert islanders:

Would you take the much touted 180 f2.8 Ais ED or the 135 f2 Ais and a 1.4 teleconverter?

Curious how they would stack up against each other for sharpness, contrast, and bokeh. The 135/TC combo would be more versatile.

Not sure what I would do.
Scott



Apr 15, 2014 at 04:54 PM
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p.3653 #7 · p.3653 #7 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


I think it might have been where I was pointing. It had some sun reflection close by and was messing with the metering.

Thank anyway guys!

My other question that maybe no one noticed.

What is your opinion on the 20/3.5 Ai and how much does it normally sell for?
I have the 24/2.8 Ai and I am not sure I need the 20 but for the right price, I cannot say no!



Apr 15, 2014 at 04:56 PM
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nampramos wrote:
I think it might have been where I was pointing. It had some sun reflection close by and was messing with the metering.

Thank anyway guys!

My other question that maybe no one noticed.

What is your opinion on the 20/3.5 Ai and how much does it normally sell for?
I have the 24/2.8 Ai and I am not sure I need the 20 but for the right price, I cannot say no!


I use to have the 20 3.5 Ai and loved it. Small, lightweight, 52mm filters, sharp, it had it all except on my DX body I needed wider so upgraded to the 18 3.5 Ais. In my opinion, the 20 is a great lens.
Scott



Apr 15, 2014 at 05:01 PM
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p.3653 #9 · p.3653 #9 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


How much did you pay for it Scott? Or what is the normal price?


Apr 15, 2014 at 05:07 PM
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I love my Nikkor 20mm 3.5 because of it's sharp foreground and ease for shooting into the sun. I have AIS version in excellent condition and it's worth around $300




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mp356 wrote:
A fun question for all you desert islanders:

Would you take the much touted 180 f2.8 Ais ED or the 135 f2 Ais and a 1.4 teleconverter?

Curious how they would stack up against each other for sharpness, contrast, and bokeh. The 135/TC combo would be more versatile.

Not sure what I would do.
Scott


How about a 85mm f1,4 Ai-S with a 1.4 and 2x TC

That will most likely be my choice once I find the funds to buy the 85mm



Apr 15, 2014 at 05:18 PM
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nampramos wrote:
How much did you pay for it Scott? Or what is the normal price?


I could be off a bit as it has been awhile, but I would say the $250-300 range, US dollars.



Apr 15, 2014 at 05:19 PM
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p.3653 #13 · p.3653 #13 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


mp356 wrote:
A fun question for all you desert islanders:

Would you take the much touted 180 f2.8 Ais ED or the 135 f2 Ais and a 1.4 teleconverter?

Curious how they would stack up against each other for sharpness, contrast, and bokeh. The 135/TC combo would be more versatile.

Not sure what I would do.
Scott


I asked the same question myself Scott. I will do a test as soon as I get my 180 back from the repair shop. My copy developed a little oil on the blades which impeded stopping down. It should be home soon
On the other hand the 135 F2 works very well with the 14A but it does not balance on the camera as well as the 180.

Ray



Apr 15, 2014 at 05:23 PM
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p.3653 #14 · p.3653 #14 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Alright, then it might be a good idea for me to pick up this 20/3.5 Ai version that is selling for about 100 USD!


Here are two I took today, using the newly arrived 105/2.5 Ai:

DSC_0163.jpg by Nuno André Ramos, on Flickr

DSC_0141.jpg by Nuno André Ramos, on Flickr



Apr 15, 2014 at 05:24 PM
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p.3653 #15 · p.3653 #15 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


MDoc9523 wrote:
What? Is that snow


It snowed here in WI just before I took the moon pictures last night. I was standing on fresh snow with my tripod. It cleared just in time. Around midnight we still had 100% overcast.






Apr 15, 2014 at 05:26 PM
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p.3653 #16 · p.3653 #16 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


I appreciate all the likes and comments. Thanks guys. I will try to contribute more

The only AIS lens I have now is 50mm. 50 AIS WO with D700 recent






















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Sorry for all family pics, that's all I do these days.



Apr 15, 2014 at 05:30 PM
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mp356 wrote:
Hi Ken, if you would like, Laura and I can send some down your way.



Is July all right with you !



Apr 15, 2014 at 06:01 PM
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CGrindahl wrote:
This may be of less significance with the latest cameras but it is an interesting subject to consider...


I will underexpose before exposing to the right any day. It's unbelievable what you can get out of the shadows without any noise with these new sensors. The D600 is one of the highest ranked sensors when it comes to DR.



Apr 15, 2014 at 06:12 PM
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p.3653 #19 · p.3653 #19 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


mp356 wrote:
A fun question for all you desert islanders:

Would you take the much touted 180 f2.8 Ais ED or the 135 f2 Ais and a 1.4 teleconverter?

Curious how they would stack up against each other for sharpness, contrast, and bokeh. The 135/TC combo would be more versatile.

Not sure what I would do.
Scott

I can answer without any testing whatsoever. The 180 will be sharper. Any time you add glass to a lens, it will sacrifice some sharpness.



Apr 15, 2014 at 06:17 PM
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p.3653 #20 · p.3653 #20 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


I only follow the Sunny 16 rule don't need iso calculations
Going to use the 135/2 alot to see if it's worth keeping

Reagan

I also prefer to underexpose
also to under achieve




  NIKON D700    0.0 mm f/0.0 lens    135mm    f/2.0    1/500s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D700    0.0 mm f/0.0 lens    135mm    f/2.0    1/5000s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  



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