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I can't possibly comment on everything since my last visit, but it's all good. From the last few pages, Curtis' shots from San Francisco are a treat, the PCE images from Anton are always wonderful, Ronny's work with the 180 is great, etc.

A couple of shots with the 50mm f/1.2 AI-s. Margot of course makes an appearance, and the other is from a back alley close to my home.


Box hat girl by philipjohnson, on Flickr


Garage door girl by philipjohnson, on Flickr

The 50mm f/1.2 AI-s is certainly a gem of a lens, but I'm starting to think I should save my pennies and swap it out for that 45mm PC-E...



Apr 05, 2013 at 09:38 PM
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designdog wrote:
Another shot from my new (to me) lens.

I have noticed that there is no way to see, from the EXIF, exactly what focal length the shot was made from. I set it up in my D700 as a 25mm f4, since there seemed no way to enter a mf zoom lens. Just a small inconvenience.

Have always thought this would be a good travel lens, coupled with the 105 2.5. I will get to try it out in a few weeks.




What a nice photo David. 25-50 and a 105 what a great Combo Along with a fast 50 you couldn't ask for anything more


Reagan



Apr 05, 2013 at 10:06 PM
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philipj wrote:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8124/8622017807_1e8c724851_b.jpg
Box hat girl by philipjohnson, on Flickr


I love this one Phillip!!



Apr 05, 2013 at 10:08 PM
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designdog wrote:
Please illuminate me. This 55 1.2 sc is a non AI lens? So how do you get it to work on a Nikon dslr?


Quite a number of us have been avidly pursuing pre-AI lenses that were made entirely of metal. They have scalloped focusing rings. As Peter and Rafael mention, these older lenses must be converted before they may be used by modern Nikon DSLR cameras. That may be done reasonably inexpensively by having the aperture ring cut down. The more elegant solution, the one that I opted for and that Rafael has done as well, is to find lenses that already have installed, an AI conversion kit manufactured by Nikon some years ago. They are available, as Peter noted for only the less desirable Nikkor lenses.

Lenses with the conversion kit tend to be more rare and to cost more money. Then another wrinkle can be added to the adventure because Nikon changed lens design and lens coatings over time, so there are often a number of versions for each pre-AI lens. Rafael just bought an S.C. version of the 55 f/1.2. He already owns the S version. The C represents multi-coating. Those are the last pre-AI lenses made by Nikon. The AI version of each lens generally has the same optical design and the same coatings as found in the pre-AI version carrying a C in its designation.

We've been sharing the lens owned by Ben in Sydney which is an 85 f/1.8 H.C. AI'd. That makes it the last pre-AI version of this lens and it has the AI conversion kit. I've wanted to buy a copy of that lens but have been unable to find one in excellent condition with the AI conversion kit. I eventually bought an 85 f/1.8 H AI'd. I decided not to drive myself crazy looking for the H.C., though if one comes my way, with or without the AI conversion kit, I might buy it and change aperture rings between my H and the H.C.

The whole adventure is complex but great fun to navigate, especially when one can share it with so many great folks who share a passion for these lenses. Here is a photo of most of my pre-AI lenses, all but one of which has the conversion kit.






Apr 05, 2013 at 11:02 PM
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Love your lens photos Rafael. You have a very discerning eye and have put together a first rate kit of lenses. I thought I was being indulgent with both a 50 f/1.2 AI-s and a 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd but you definitely take the prize. At the moment I'm focusing on upgrading the 105 f/2.5 P AI'd, the lens on the far left of the photo above. This is the Sonnar design with five elements in three groups. The link you offered to a later version of the P lens has five elements in four groups. That is the design carried forward in all later versions of the 105 f/2.5. The one shown above is the 105 f/2.5 P.C. AI'd.

What wonderful fun we're having! Kit building is forever, or so I've heard...



Apr 05, 2013 at 11:11 PM
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Thanks for the input! Sounds right up my alley, except for perhaps the absence of instant gratification.

I read somewhere that the 35 2.8 SC had similar "3d" qualities to the 25-50. Perhaps that would be a good place to start. Already have a 50 1.2 AI-s that is near perfect.

Is there a recommended conversion source?



Apr 06, 2013 at 01:25 AM
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Here is another question re the "pre AI" lenses.

I have a Fuji X Pro 1 which works very nicely with, say, my 50 1.2 AI-s. With an F adapter. Would a non- converted non-AI lens work with this? Interesting.



Apr 06, 2013 at 01:54 AM
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designdog wrote:
Thanks for the input! Sounds right up my alley, except for perhaps the absence of instant gratification.

I read somewhere that the 35 2.8 SC had similar "3d" qualities to the 25-50. Perhaps that would be a good place to start. Already have a 50 1.2 AI-s that is near perfect.

Is there a recommended conversion source?


I had two lenses converted by John White and can recommend his service. I think there are others who do the same thing (somebody offers this on ebay, I think).

Peter




Apr 06, 2013 at 02:09 AM
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saph wrote:
Another image from Washington, this is at the Lincoln Memorial. 50 1.2 AIS, f4 and 1/125s.

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b530/sa_maryland_fotofun/WashingtonDC/Lincoln_zps10f7c7f8.jpg


Very sharp Samy. Nice b&w conversion.



Apr 06, 2013 at 02:12 AM
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Final test shot of the day for the 'new' 55mm 1.2 SC, my garden is very natural, here is some natural flowers (weeds)

At 1:1.2, which do we like best?
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8402/8622002673_733c25f377_b.jpg
Nikkor 55mm 1.2 _7SC Arrival by Rafael CA, on Flickr


Rafael, I vote for the f1.2 version.



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Stitched 12 shots, D700 28mm f2.8AIS, and distortion bound to give some heartburn. Yes, I'm going to try to figure out what I might be able to do in PS.





Not the Golden Gate Bridge :-)




Apr 06, 2013 at 02:16 AM
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pbraymond wrote:
Stitched 12 shots, D700 28mm f2.8AIS, and distortion bound to give some heartburn. Yes, I'm going to try to figure out what I might be able to do in PS.

Save it as a tiff and pull it back into ACR and run it as a 14mm lens and see if the distortion comes out better/straighter. Very cool shot though, I like it.



Apr 06, 2013 at 02:32 AM
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^^^^^^^I love the distortion Ray. Dont do a thing! !!@


Apr 06, 2013 at 03:20 AM
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CGrindahl wrote:
Love your lens photos Rafael. You have a very discerning eye and have put together a first rate kit of lenses. I thought I was being indulgent with both a 50 f/1.2 AI-s and a 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd but you definitely take the prize. At the moment I'm focusing on upgrading the 105 f/2.5 P AI'd, the lens on the far left of the photo above. This is the Sonnar design with five elements in three groups. The link you offered to a later version of the P lens has five elements in four groups. That is the design
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It is really an investment.

Here is the 55 1.2 SC out on the street I live on, all plants are blooming. Used some mid aperture.


nikon nikkor 55mm 1.2 sc D3 yellow bush by Rafael CA, on Flickr


nikon nikkor 55mm 1.2 sc D3 yellow bush 2 by Rafael CA, on Flickr



Apr 06, 2013 at 04:06 AM
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And back at the old Califia testing grounds, this is the new 55mm 1.2 SC all photos at full aperture (1:1.2) on a D3 (no need for 36 mp). I am telling you these things are SHARP at 1.2, just need even light to work well. For some optical reason much easier to focus wide open than the 50mm 1.2.


nikon nikkor 55mm 1.2 sc D3 CAlifia 2 by Rafael CA, on Flickr


nikon nikkor 55mm 1.2 sc D3 Califia 3 by Rafael CA, on Flickr


nikon nikkor 55mm 1.2 sc D3 Calififa 4 by Rafael CA, on Flickr


nikon nikkor 55mm 1.2 sc D3 CAlifia by Rafael CA, on Flickr

AND the obligatory 100% proof that these things are sharp at 1.2


nikon nikkor 55mm 1.2 sc D3 CAlifia crop by Rafael CA, on Flickr



Apr 06, 2013 at 04:11 AM
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Wonderful photographs Rafael!


Apr 06, 2013 at 05:54 AM
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Foggy14 wrote:
Wonderful photographs Rafael!


+1


Thanks
Peter : Yes it my daughter on the trampoline


Nikkor 135mm f/2 Ai-s Vivitar Nikon AT-3/AI Extension Tube 36mm by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Nikkor 135mm f/2 Ai-s Vivitar Nikon AT-3/AI Extension Tube 36mm by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Nikkor 135mm f/2 Ai-s Vivitar Nikon AT-3/AI Extension Tube 36mm by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr



Apr 06, 2013 at 09:21 AM
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pburke wrote:
AI conversion. $30 plus shipping, unless you must go with the original conversion rings sold by Nikon years ago, which can be hard to find for the more common focal lengths. Example for a rare 15mm lens



Peter, another option, if you is good with handworks:
http://pindelski.org/Photography/2013/02/06/nikkor-ai-conversions-diy/

I know it will be considered blasphemy here, but it is just me.
While myself was at first eagerly looking at factory rings, right now I prefer to maintain the original aperture rings (mostly the scalloped ones). Ater no more than 10-15minutes of simple filing down work on the aperture ring at the right place (see link above) and a black paint final touch, the lesn is perfectly ai'd and with the original ring. I am not good with handwork, but the procedure is so straightforward tha I was more than capable to do the job. Additionally, I noted that the aperture claw do not need to be filled down or removed forever, but it can be reisntalled at its original place without interfering with camera's aperture tab. This is great since no butchery work is needed. Unfortunately many people have unnecessarily destroyed the good looking of their lenses doing that butchery.
Right now I have a 16/3.5 and a 400/5.6 ai factory rings with no use...


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Apr 06, 2013 at 01:05 PM
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Quite a number of us have been avidly pursuing pre-AI lenses that were made entirely of metal. They have scalloped focusing rings. As Peter and Rafael mention, these older lenses must be converted before they may be used by modern Nikon DSLR cameras. That may be done reasonably inexpensively by having the aperture ring cut down. The more elegant solution, the one that I opted for and that Rafael has done as well, is to find lenses that already have installed, an AI conversion kit manufactured by Nikon some years ago. They are available, as Peter noted for only the
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What a great scalloped collection Curtis.
I am considering to myself a more humble collection including just the 20/3.5 UD or 24/2.8 NC; 35/2 OC; 50/2 HC; 105/2.5 P (Sonnar); 105/2.5 PC (Gauss) and the 200/4 QC (got a pristine copy, what a beauty!!).

Of all these above the 20/3.5 UD is the more expensive, those near pristime and with the factory ring maintaining the scalloped aperture ring (beautiful and more functional) normally are priced above USD 280-300.00 at ebay.
Add to this the fact that Rafael monopolized the last copies of the rare HN-9 hoods of this lens
so, better to be conformed to the fact my widest scalloped wide angle will be the 24/2.8 NC.



Apr 06, 2013 at 01:26 PM
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mp356 wrote:
Rafael, I vote for the f1.2 version.


Agreed!
For scientific purposes the first one would be better, but for aesthetic or artistic appreciation, no doubt this is far better.



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