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My latest lens arrived this afternoon, the 24 f/2.8 N.C. AI'd. Although it came without a front cap and had some adhesive at two locations on the focusing ring, the lens is in pristine condition WITH the AI conversion kit. I easily got rid of the adhesive with an alcohol swab and then took a few photos. Here's one closeup, wide open. This lens has Close Range Correction. (CRC)


I thought this might be a good time to post a photo of my pre-AI lenses, all but one of which have been converted with the Nikon kits.


From left to right... 105 f/2.5 P AI'd, 105 f/2.5 P.C. AI'd, 85 f/1.8 H AI'd, 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd, 50 f/1.4 S.C., 50 f/1.4 S AI'd, 50 f/2 H.C. AI'd, 28 f/3.5 H AI'd, and 24 f/2.8 N.C. AI'd



Mar 14, 2013 at 10:58 PM
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I am SO glad you posted that image Curtis... I just inherited 4 lenses and only one has been AI converted. I got a 135mm f/2.8 AI'd, 35mm f/2.8, and two 50mm f/1.4. The 35mm and one of the 50's has the scalloped focus rings, the 135mm has a scalloped aperture ring, and the other 50mm is a Pre-AI. The scalloped 50mm has some scratches or gunk on the front element, I hope it comes off. I will take pics either tonight or Saturday.

They are all in good mechanical condition, some finish issues. Does any of you know of an AI kit for the 50mm and 35mm?



Mar 14, 2013 at 11:09 PM
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Therein lies the rub Kevin... the few AI conversion kits available are for the more rare lenses. My hunt for pre-AI lenses was complicated by the fact I really only want lenses that have the kit already installed, because finding one can be very frustrating. Yes, the aperture ring on a pre-AI lens can be cut down so that I will mount on a modern Nikon DSLR but that solution is not nearly as elegant as installing an AI kit. Here's a closeup of four lenses, two of which in the middle are 50 f/1.4 lenses.


The one on the right is the older S version with the AI conversion kit. The one on the left is the later S.C. that has not been converted. Note that the rabbit ears of the converted lenses are reversed with screws above the ears. The pre-AI lens has rabbit ears with screws on the bottom near the rear of the lens. When the aperture ring is cut down, either the rabbit ears have to be removed, or they will be shaved on the bottom.

Of course, you've received lenses as an inheritance. They'll work fine on film cameras and with appropriate adapters on alternative cameras. But to use them on your Nikon camera your only real solution is to have the aperture ring cut down. You can do it yourself, or you can hire someone to do it for you. There is a fellow who advertises on E-Bay and a number of folks have used John White to do the work. I believe he charges $30. The fellow on E-Bay charges a bit more but his price includes return shipping. I don't know whether that is the case for Mr. White. Here is a link to the E-Bay tech. He removes the rabbit ears and adds a second row of aperture number much like what is found on the AI converted aperture rings. It is that feature that makes his work attractive. John White either has no second row of numbers or he affixes a strip of paper with the numbers. I find that a rather inelegant solution. Good luck sorting it all out Kevin.

AI Modification/Conversion of Nikon Nikkor Classic Lenses



Mar 14, 2013 at 11:33 PM
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kings_freak wrote:
After I left my field I went down the road, to my often photographed, tree. It was 91ºF at my house today! I am so not ready for it to be summer, so I am hoping that this just lasts a couple of days. The rest are of the little flowers outside of my work. The setting sun gave them a nice, warm glow. Again, all were shot with Nikki.

–Tony

P.S. I will get you the stuff for the blog tonight, Leighton!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8366/8555571215_6808a2f5da_b.jpg
Hot Cows by T&J Photography, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8111/8555573157_698e210434_b.jpg
Stand Out by T&J Photography, on Flickr


Fantastic!



Mar 14, 2013 at 11:38 PM
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kwoodard wrote:
Man, those are awesome! The flower is my favorite. Seems you have slid right into the D600, you certainly are making things look easy.


+1 Excellent flower shot.



Mar 14, 2013 at 11:43 PM
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Oosty wrote:
One from Tuesday and one from this afternoon!







Peter, beautiful sea/landscape and gorgeous flower.



Mar 14, 2013 at 11:48 PM
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Thanks for the info. Here is what I have found scouring the internets...

50mm f/1.4 Serial 744XXX S-Auto. Manufactured between 68-72. Has some sort of scratches on the front element.

50mm f/1.4 Serial 286XXXX. Manufactured 74-76. Seems to be in good shape, would like to get this one converted.

35mm f/2.8. Serial 267XXX. Manufactured 1971. Excellent shape, REALLY want this one converted.

135mm f/2.8. Serial 313XXX. Manufactured 71-73. Excellent shape. AI converted. Has a tiny little screw that needs to be tightened, once that is done, its on the D7000.

Nice thing is if I can figure out what is wrong with my old FG body, I can use all of these.

I also have access to a 300mm-700mm f/5.6. Not sure of the make, but on a Dx, that's 1050mm!! I hope to take that to San Francisco last week of this month.



Mar 14, 2013 at 11:49 PM
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CGrindahl wrote:

My latest lens arrived this afternoon, the 24 f/2.8 N.C. AI'd. Although it came without a front cap and had some adhesive at two locations on the focusing ring, the lens is in pristine condition WITH the AI conversion kit. I easily got rid of the adhesive with an alcohol swab and then took a few photos. Here's one closeup, wide open. This lens has Close Range Correction. (CRC)


http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9UIDnVAwv18/UUJTCrAy63I/AAAAAAAASNw/kb7AOjYfeDQ/s1200/50.1.2.NinePreAILenses.jpg

From left to right... 105 f/2.5 P AI'd, 105 f/2.5 P.C. AI'd, 85 f/1.8 H AI'd, 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd, 50 f/1.4 S.C., 50 f/1.4 S AI'd, 50 f/2 H.C. AI'd, 28
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Curtis, congrats on the new lens, great debut shot!

What a beautiful scalloped lens collection.
From the limited experiences I have with my 35/2 O and Sonnar 105/2.5 P, I feel better focusing with scalloped rings than ruber ones.



Mar 14, 2013 at 11:51 PM
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As Ben observed if obliquely, for anyone experimenting with MF Nikkors, it is very worthwhile to consider these older lenses. No doubt the scalloped metal focusing ring is a very nice feature. I have in no way been disappointed by performance of these lenses, even the older version without the latest coating. I've no doubt that modern lenses handle light bouncing around inside lenses better and therefore reduce some of the peculiarities we find with these lenses. But that can be part of their charm. Although Nikon turned away from the Sonnar design for the 105 f/2.5, the P lens is a great performer. This is all great fun for me, and I expect for others who spend time on this thread

I'm not certain whether I'll pick up a 35 f/2 converted pre-AI lens but that would likely be my final purchase for this type of lens. As i mentioned before, the 35 f/1.4 and 28 f/2 are pricey. Since I already have AI-s versions of both of those lenses, I hardly need to make that kind of investment. When I can pick up lenses at or below a hundred dollars, it is an easy decision to make. At $500 I don't believe I could press the Buy button on E-Bay...



Mar 15, 2013 at 12:00 AM
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Oosty wrote:
Ray - these are good pics. Please show exif while you're in the honeymoon phase - it helps those on the cusp

Thank you everyone. I will show the exif on future shots. These using the 300mm are all wide open at 4.5
The D600 has certainly impressed me!



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leighton w wrote:
Ray, love the flower shot. Are you shooting raw?

No these are all in jpg fine large. I shot some in raw but to tell you the truth I can't tell the difference.



Mar 15, 2013 at 12:24 AM
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Thank you Ray, Peter, Reagan and James for the kind words.

Continuing my Pompeii "saga", in this small room or "cubiculum" at the House of Apollo:


Cubiculum at the house of Apollo. by labecoaves, on Flickr



I have found some of the best preserved mosaics at outside wall:



Achilles being recognised by Ulysses on Skyros by labecoaves, on Flickr
D7000 + Nikkor 20mm f/2.8 ais CPU'd hand held, ISO 500, f/11 at 1/400s.




and paintings inside the room:



Painting at the house of Apollo - 2 shots pano by labecoaves, on Flickr

2 horizontal shots pano of a mythological scene of the contest between Venus and Hesperus, Apollo as a judge in the centre. At the bottom, the painting is of faux marble panels.
D7000 + Nikkor 20mm f/2.8 ais CPU'd hand held, ISO 1600, f/5.6 at 1/320s.




and a closer view (excuse the 2000 px version):



A closer view of Venus x Hesperus under Apollo´s judgement by labecoaves, on Flickr
D7000 + Nikkor 20mm f/2.8 ais CPU'd hand held, ISO 1600, f/5.6 at 1/320s.
Single shot ~15% cropped.

As we cannot use flash to protect the paintings, the ISO 1600 capability of D7000 was very useful.



Mar 15, 2013 at 12:27 AM
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CGrindahl wrote:
As Ben observed if obliquely, for anyone experimenting with MF Nikkors, it is very worthwhile to consider these older lenses. No doubt the scalloped metal focusing ring is a very nice feature. I have in no way been disappointed by performance of these lenses, even the older version without the latest coating. I've no doubt that modern lenses handle light bouncing around inside lenses better and therefore reduce some of the peculiarities we find with these lenses. But that can be part of their charm. Although Nikon turned away from the Sonnar design for the 105 f/2.5, the P lens
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Curtis, this lens is surely for you:









http://www.destoutz.ch/lens_35mm_f2_841679.html


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Mar 15, 2013 at 12:38 AM
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Oosty wrote:
One from Tuesday and one from this afternoon!

What a lovely shot Peter







Mar 15, 2013 at 12:39 AM
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CGrindahl wrote:

My latest lens arrived this afternoon, the 24 f/2.8 N.C. AI'd. Although it came without a front cap and had some adhesive at two locations on the focusing ring, the lens is in pristine condition WITH the AI conversion kit. I easily got rid of the adhesive with an alcohol swab and then took a few photos. Here's one closeup, wide open. This lens has Close Range Correction. (CRC)


I thought this might be a good time to post a photo of my pre-AI lenses, all but one of which have been converted with the Nikon kits.

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9UIDnVAwv18/UUJTCrAy63I/AAAAAAAASNw/kb7AOjYfeDQ/s1200/50.1.2.NinePreAILenses.jpg

From left to right... 105
...Show more

What a wonderful collection, certainly fitting of the one who started a thread about these lenses!!!!



Mar 15, 2013 at 12:41 AM
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Jose that last photo is for sure my favorite one par-excellence!


Mar 15, 2013 at 12:42 AM
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Today I used the 85mm 1.4 on the new D600. My first observation was how much easier it was to see the focus. I have pretty good eye sight and still this viewfinder made a world of difference. The first was at 1.4, second at 2.0 and third at 2.8








Mar 15, 2013 at 12:49 AM
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Tony, the dolls are "interesting", and the more I think about it a little creepy. Great follow up though with your favorite tree and cattle shot! Also looked at the lens blog, just a great start to the Nikki entries!

Peter, "Gericke's point, Sedgefield" is nicely done with super composition and color, I always have trouble getting the color and saturation right on a cloudy day like you had; need to work on my PP skills.

Very cool lens collection Curtis. I wonder if you can score good deals at those "travelling" camera shows; it has been probably 10 years since I've been to one.

Lastly for Reagan, a larger sample of the barn shot... thanks to the others for the kind comments on the shots ... feels good to be able to have something to contribute to this fine thread.








Mar 15, 2013 at 12:51 AM
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MDoc9523 wrote:
Today I used the 85mm 1.4 on the new D600. My first observation was how much easier it was to see the focus. I have pretty good eye sight and still this viewfinder made a world of difference. The first was at 1.4, second at 2.0 and third at 2.8


First rate flower pics Ray! Looks like your excellent skills were just waiting for FX to be fully unleashed! Just kidding, your DX stuff was just as enjoyable.



Mar 15, 2013 at 12:56 AM
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Thank you Ray I agree with Reagan that looks much better in the larger size!


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