chatcher wrote:
The Zf I pre-ordered will replace my Z5. Ignoring autofocus, since we’re talking MF here, what is the justification for spending the money to upgrade from a Z5, let alone a Z6 or Z6ii? I can’t justify it for any real reason other than… I want it.
Oh I understand what you are saying. If this were strictly about want, I would grab it in a moment. But, practicality and my failing vision also play into the equation. I kind of have a policy of eliminating something to gain something with occasional deviations from that path. The question is not do I "want" the Zf, the question is, do I need it at this time or can I wait and see how it pans out while using what I have.
I closed my photography studio to the public when I had an occipital stroke in 2019. My eyes will never be the same. The autofocus, especially with the new mirrorless cameras is outstanding, and will at some point not be an option for me. For now, I can still manual focus made easier (especially with the Voightlander 40/2) with Nikon's Live View happily helping out. I could see using Voightlander's Z lens' in the future with the Zf along with the FTZ to use the old Nikon MF lens' if I decide to part ways with the Z6ii. Reviews by trusted sources and images presented here and elsewhere will determine that at a future date.
As an aside, my purchase via NPS of the Z8 in the first wave, resulted in 2 recalls for my camera which adds weight to my decision to wait and see. Like I said, a gal's changing her mind is always an option and that BUY button is an ever present danger!
I hope and expect that you will be very happy with your Zf and look forward to you posting a lot of images here and hearing your impressions of it!
I've been busy since Friday attending a function in the city of Seattle, in the quaint and exotic country to the south of my home. I am now in the vicinity of Olympic National Park, hoping to get in some photography, but only if the weather is reasonable. In the meantime, here are a few more classic car photos from Comox, courtesy of the 24 f/2.8 NC (first two) and the 50 f/1.4 SC (last one).
cadman342001 wrote:
Can I be the first to say, just shoot everything wide open as the Nikon MF Gods intended !
Seriously though, everything is a compromise. We are so spoilt now. Look at any thread discussing new cameras and there are hundreds of people bitching about why they aren't going to buy the particular new release as they would have liked a b c etc., usually features that are either impractical, uneconomic or super niche things only a handful of people would want.
I don't mean to criticise, ultimately we are never going to get a mirrorless body with a native F mount as you need an adapter to make up the correct sensor to flange distance.
It would be nice to get exif recorded but let's be honest, the fact that you still mount the old lenses at all is pretty cool.
The ftz ii is much better than the first version, hopefully a version iii might record aperture?
Nikon just want to sell you new Z mount lenses at the end of the day.
Besides that, how can you hold a body with NO grip like the Zf ?
Discuss ! (I'm just stirring the pot, btw, I have zero intention of buying one )...Show more →
Life is simple for a hobbyist having fun, mount whatever lens you got on whatever camera you can mount it, use a coffee can adaptor if need be, then go out and have fun, any Nikon camera since the D3 will be great and any lens since the 5cm 2.0 S will be great on a DLSR and since the 5cm 3.5 on a mirrorless. Anything more complex than this you are entitled to want and like but is not necessary for enjoyment of the hobby.
GroWeb wrote:
I've been busy since Friday attending a function in the city of Seattle, in the quaint and exotic country to the south of my home. I am now in the vicinity of Olympic National Park, hoping to get in some photography, but only if the weather is reasonable. In the meantime, here are a few more classic car photos from Comox, courtesy of the 24 f/2.8 NC (first two) and the 50 f/1.4 SC (last one).
Speaking about simplicity, took my old Z6 with some coffee can extensions and the 70mm 1:5 Micro Nikkor (Direct descendant of the R-Nikkor 5cm) and went bee hunting on the lemon tree. There was only one bee but she was rather accommodating.
leighton w wrote:
Ha ha...no, just curious on how they feel. If anyone is ready for a new camera it's you! You've only had two the whole time I've known you.
Actually, there have been four cameras during my time on this thread including TWO copies of the D700. I loved that camera so much that I eventually bought a lower mileage copy. That is the one I still own. The Df, of course... but then there was the Canon 5D that I owned while beginning my Nikon adventure. You may not have been on the thread when that was going on... but it was the sale of the 5D and about a dozen Canon AF lenses that financed purchase of Nikon gear. Most of those lenses had the red ring around them which made them quite precious.
When I arrived at the Df I was so happy that new offerings from Nikon simply didn't motivate me to spend money. That still is the case today. I enjoy watching what others are doing with their new gear but not to the point of wanting to invest. Now lenses on the other hand still make my heart sing. Andy's new 200 f/2 is intriguing... a lens I've drooled over for years. But I come to the same conclusion each time I see the price these beauties command... rather than spend two to three thousand dollars, I can enjoy another gorgeous lens that cost only $300, and that in pristine condition with the box... the 180 f/2.8 AI-s. Save a couple of thousand AND 1750 grams of weight... that matters to an old man like me...
I did take a walk yesterday in the watershed not too far from where I live. It was while hiking in this area that I took the fall that knocked out two front teeth. I'd made a promise to myself that I would only walk in the area on fire trails, not single path hiking trails that have given me so much pleasure in the past, but which can at times be challenging. I've accepted the fact that my balance and agility are not what they were some years ago... so I walk on paths like this... shot with the 135 f/2.8 K AI.
This is a pretty busy fire trail with mountain bikes and hikers. It was not an ideal day simply because fires in Oregon have been sharing smoke with the Bay Area... surprisingly the smoke is blown toward the ocean and wind currents carry it south until the wind turns toward San Francisco. We had a week of lousy air, but it was beginning to improve yesterday. Today it is crystal clear again.
Here are a few shots I grabbed along the way. The fire road runs along the north edge of The Meadow Club golf course designed by Alistar MacKenzie. He has designed some of the great golf courses around the world including Augusta National and Cypress Point near Carmel. (Check the link for the Meadow Club and you'll see what the watershed looks like. It is a rather spectacular photo. My fall was right next to the reservoir you see above and to the right of the course.)
rafaelcasd wrote:
Speaking about simplicity, took my old Z6 with some coffee can extensions and the 70mm 1:5 Micro Nikkor (Direct descendant of the R-Nikkor 5cm) and went bee hunting on the lemon tree. There was only one bee but she was rather accommodating.
I really like this 70mm, Rafael. In my mind it just doesn't feel like the Nikon of today is as innovative. Compared to today, the market then was so small but innovation was so big. Now market so big but too much me too on the products front. That's why as much as all my cameras can do everything that I shoot now, a product like the Zf holds so much appeal.
This plant yields beautiful flowers I've never seen before but is so unwieldy. It's too big and tall for its own good. A more uniform pink version on the other side of the garden.
D700 + AI Micro NIKKOR 55mm f/2.8S | F8 ISO 1000 +0.67EV
chatcher wrote:
The Zf I pre-ordered will replace my Z5. Ignoring autofocus, since we’re talking MF here, what is the justification for spending the money to upgrade from a Z5, let alone a Z6 or Z6ii? I can’t justify it for any real reason other than… I want it.
CGrindahl wrote:
I did take a walk yesterday in the watershed not too far from where I live. It was while hiking in this area that I took the fall that knocked out two front teeth. I'd made a promise to myself that I would only walk in the area on fire trails, not single path hiking trails that have given me so much pleasure in the past, but which can at times be challenging. I've accepted the fact that my balance and agility are not what they were some years ago... so I walk on paths like this... shot with the 135 f/2.8 K AI.
This is a pretty busy fire trail with mountain bikes and hikers. It was not an ideal day simply because fires in Oregon have been sharing smoke with the Bay Area... surprisingly the smoke is blown toward the ocean and wind currents carry it south until the wind turns toward San Francisco. We had a week of lousy air, but it was beginning to improve yesterday. Today it is crystal clear again.
Here are a few shots I grabbed along the way. The fire road runs along the north edge of The Meadow Club golf course designed by Alistar MacKenzie. He has designed some of the great golf courses around the world including Augusta National and Cypress Point near Carmel. (Check the link for the Meadow Club and you'll see what the watershed looks like. It is a rather spectacular photo. My fall was right next to the reservoir you see above and to the right of the course.)
There was gusting wind that made shooting things like this a challenge. I'm glad it came out as well as it did....Show more →
Good to see you back on walks in the watershed, albeit, the fire trails.
I forgot about the second D700 and I don't think you had the Canon when I first came on board a month or two after you started the thread. Anyway you look at it, you deserve a new camera.
A plaque retelling part of the Storytime (Dreamtime) Stories told by the local indigenous tribes.
It relates the story of Storytime Legend Guyalla and his brother Dumarr.
These plaques are mounted on original timbers salvaged and set vertically in the ground in a group that you walk through. Probably Turpentine tree (VERY VERY hard wood and resistant to constant submersion in salt water)
And like Ken's cup and saucer, it demonstrates that even simply things can be seen as interesting subjects AND that converting images to black and white can elevate such subjects. Stripping out the color we're left to appreciate light, shadow and form. Very nice.
This is an old photo... Spring of 2016 and I doubtless posted it at the time... but it came to mind this morning and I had to search it out... So I'll share it again.
CGrindahl wrote:
This is an old photo... Spring of 2016 and I doubtless posted it at the time... but it came to mind this morning and I had to search it out... So I'll share it again.