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thursdaylsr
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


I'm trying to find a lens to get my girlfriend some more range, since all she has is the kit 18-55 and a 50 1.8 that I got her. I don't really like the Canon consumer zooms (75-300, 55-250) that much, so I was looking for a better option. I came across the 70-210 f4 and was hoping it would be like its Nikon equivalent in quality and "sleeper" factor. Anybody have any experience with this lens? I'd love to just grab her the 70-200 f4L, but thats a bit too much for my broke college self. Thanks.

Justin



Aug 14, 2010 at 08:21 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


70-210mm F3.5-4.5 EF ?



Aug 14, 2010 at 09:22 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


jay tieger wrote:
70-210mm F3.5-4.5 EF ?


I was looking at that as well, but I found the 70-210 f4 on Ken Rockwell just seeing what was offered, and then saw that there was one used on Adorama. According to KR it was made from 1987-1990.

Any info on the 3.5-4.5. I know barely anything about Canon as a Nikon guy, so any advice is much appreciated.

Justin



Aug 14, 2010 at 09:30 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


I have the 3.5-4.5 and can recommend it...the only issue it has is zoom "creep" ... the zoom barrel will head south on it's own if tilted downwards (not uncommon)...it doesn't affect IQ though....nor the focusing which is smooth and silent and fast...

As with any consumer zoom it is suggested that you stop down an F-stop to improve results and I've been very happy with it doing that...



Aug 14, 2010 at 09:50 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


I just snagged the 70-210 f4 off of Adorama, I'll give it a whirl before I head out to California to see her and maybe write up a review for it, since this seems to be a pretty unknown lens.

Thanks for the help Jay. Looking at the prices of the 3.5-4.5, I decided to just take the chance with the f4.



Aug 14, 2010 at 11:48 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


The 70-210 f/4 is a good, solid performing lens. Its only shortcoming? slow focus, its not USM I used one of these for a few months before picking up a 70-200 2.8L How much did you pay?


Aug 14, 2010 at 11:55 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


Came to $140 after shipping, was an E or E+ on their scale, forgot already haha. But from what I hear, Adorama does a pretty good job telling the quality of the lens. I think she'll be ok with it not being a USM, she's just getting started and it's mostly so she can get started learning about the longer focal lengths. Eventually I'll grab her a 70-200 f4L if she wants to keep going the telephoto route. I was going to get her into primes since she loves her 50 1.8, but since I'm coming from the Nikon side I didn't really know what to go with.


Aug 15, 2010 at 12:00 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


thursdaylsr wrote:
But from what I hear, Adorama does a pretty good job telling the quality of the lens.


An E might be rather heavily used. I tried Adorama once for used gear, but ended up returning the item. At least that was no hassle so there is little risk.

EBH



Aug 15, 2010 at 12:09 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


Seems like an older model lens. Will have slightly slower focusing but for a starter it sure will be better than the kit lenses.


Aug 15, 2010 at 12:09 AM
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EB-1 wrote:
An E might be rather heavily used. I tried Adorama once for used gear, but ended up returning the item. At least that was no hassle so there is little risk.

EBH


Good to hear the return wasn't too bad. That's another reason I got it shipped to me instead of right to her, make sure everything is up to my standards and that I can deal with any returns that need to get done.

Speter wrote:
Seems like an older model lens. Will have slightly slower focusing but for a starter it sure will be better than the kit lenses.


Yea, all my research done with it says it is a bit older and also darknite mentioned the lack of USM. I think overall she should be happy with it. And she's not gonna complain either way, she gets something for free haha.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


thursdaylsr wrote:
I'm trying to find a lens to get my girlfriend some more range, since all she has is the kit 18-55 and a 50 1.8 that I got her. I don't really like the Canon consumer zooms (75-300, 55-250) that much, so I was looking for a better option. I came across the 70-210 f4 and was hoping it would be like its Nikon equivalent in quality and "sleeper" factor. Anybody have any experience with this lens? I'd love to just grab her the 70-200 f4L, but thats a bit too much for my broke college self. Thanks.

Justin


So, what is your girlfriend shooting and what is she doing with the photographs that the 55-250 would not work for her? It is really not a bad lens.

Dan



Aug 15, 2010 at 04:04 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


It is a excellent lens for the $$, often found with old Elan or EOS 630 Cameras for under $100.














Aug 15, 2010 at 04:26 AM
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I owned the EF 70-210 f4 20 some years back and it was pretty terrible: slow & noisy AF, push-pull zoom and so-so IQ. I replaced it with the EF 70-210 f3.5-4.5 USM in 1991 and what an big improvement in just about every way. I used that lens until 2007, and only sold it because I got an EF 70-200 4L IS USM. Amazingly the old EF 70-210 f3.5-4.5 USM AF is even faster the EF 70-200 4L IS USM, I suspect because it only has to drive a small rear element group. The EF 70-210 f3.5-4.5 USM qualifies as a real sleeper value if there ever was one.


Aug 15, 2010 at 04:42 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


whenever this comes up the variable ap 70-210 3.5-4.5 is always the recomended lens. its much more the 'sleeper' than the f4. Its USM as well! . I've not used it but if its like its bigger bro the 100-300 4.5-5.6 USM then it would a fine little cheap lens. I had 1 of those and the IQ was fairly good but the AF was like lightning.


Aug 15, 2010 at 06:50 AM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
So, what is your girlfriend shooting and what is she doing with the photographs that the 55-250 would not work for her? It is really not a bad lens.

Dan


She's just learning, but for some reason I just don't like the 55-250 when I have used it. I honestly don't have an exact reason why, just didn't like it.

Gochugogi wrote:
I owned the EF 70-210 f4 20 some years back and it was pretty terrible: slow & noisy AF, push-pull zoom and so-so IQ. I replaced it with the EF 70-210 f3.5-4.5 USM in 1991 and what an big improvement in just about every way. I used that lens until 2007, and only sold it because I got an EF 70-200 4L IS USM. Amazingly the old EF 70-210 f3.5-4.5 USM AF is even faster the EF 70-200 4L IS USM, I suspect because it only has to drive a small rear element group. The EF 70-210 f3.5-4.5 USM qualifies
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Ian.Dobinson wrote:
whenever this comes up the variable ap 70-210 3.5-4.5 is always the recomended lens. its much more the 'sleeper' than the f4. Its USM as well! . I've not used it but if its like its bigger bro the 100-300 4.5-5.6 USM then it would a fine little cheap lens. I had 1 of those and the IQ was fairly good but the AF was like lightning.


Both these posts kind of make me want to cancel the order for the f4 and pick up the 3.5-4.5...

Alright, I'm gonna cancel the 70-210 f4 for now, and see what else I can decide on. Who knows, might pick order it again, but no rush really.

Going against what I've wanted, I'll look at the 55-250 as well, but I'm not really sold on it. How does the 55-250 compare to the 70-210 3.5-4.5? Or any other telephoto zooms you recommend? I don't mind going to Sigma or other brands, as long as it's a quality lens.



Aug 15, 2010 at 02:43 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


thursdaylsr wrote:
She's just learning, but for some reason I just don't like the 55-250 when I have used it. I honestly don't have an exact reason why, just didn't like it.


Both these posts kind of make me want to cancel the order for the f4 and pick up the 3.5-4.5...

Alright, I'm gonna cancel the 70-210 f4 for now, and see what else I can decide on. Who knows, might pick order it again, but no rush really.

Going against what I've wanted, I'll look at the 55-250 as well, but I'm not really sold on it. How does the 55-250 compare to
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This is what I used until I got the 70-210mm F3.5-4.5








the best $50 AF tele-zoom out there, made by Tamron (though this Kodak version has a BETTER gripped zoom barrel) ...reviewed here...

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=663199

here's a 100% crop...






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http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-EOS-Kodak-AF-80-210mm-F4-5-5-6-Zoom-Lens-Mint-/150480493550?pt=Camera_Lenses



Aug 15, 2010 at 06:49 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


thursdaylsr wrote:
She's just learning, but for some reason I just don't like the 55-250 when I have used it. I honestly don't have an exact reason why, just didn't like it.


it is really a perfect lens for her situation.

Dan



Aug 16, 2010 at 03:30 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


gdanmitchell wrote:
it is really a perfect lens for her situation.

Dan


I'd be inclined to agree. Before I switched to MF (and got some decent, cheap primes), I used the 55-250 for anything longer than 50mm and it worked pretty well for what I was shooting. The IS works well, it focuses fast enough for me and the wide open quality is good for beginners.

As far as the 70-210 f/4 is concerned, KR seems to be the only person who likes it. You can get the 100-300 at KEH for about the same price you paid for the 70-210 f/4 and it seems to get higher marks than the 70-210. You can also get the 100-300 f/5.6L (which will similar in styling and vintage) for about $250, which has better image quality.

However, if the 70-210 f/4 does you well, then no reason to dump it because the forum tells you so. Let us know how it goes.



Aug 16, 2010 at 03:51 AM
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thursdaylsr wrote:
...... from what I hear, Adorama does a pretty good job telling the quality of the lens. ......



Any problems or concerns of any kind with it, please let me know: helen.oster@adoramacamera.com

Helen Oster
Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador



Aug 16, 2010 at 12:35 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Canon EF 70-210 f4


kakomu wrote:
You can get the 100-300 at KEH for about the same price you paid for the 70-210 f/4 and it seems to get higher marks than the 70-210. You can also get the 100-300 f/5.6L (which will similar in styling and vintage) for about $250, which has better image quality.


The 70-210/3.5-4.5 is a much better lens and has very fast USM AF, the 100-300L (which I used to own) has pretty slow and noisy non-USM focus, not to mention it's slower glass and a much older design. They are very different lenses. I would recommend you pick the variable aperture 70-210, especially over the 55-250, which has some pretty mediocre reviews.



Aug 16, 2010 at 03:34 PM
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