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p.21 #1 · p.21 #1 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


PEKA62 wrote:
Don't forget the FE 100-400 GM, guys.
Granted, it is more expensive and a little heavier and bigger than a used C/Y VS 100-300 (If you find a good one).
I sold my VS 100-300 (it had high serial > 81.....) for the GM.
You get AF and exif data, more reach up to 400 mm and IS with the FE.
You get warranty.
No risk of haze coming up suddenly in the rear element after some time.
And the rendering is really VERY competitive and comparable.
Also focusing is a challenge with that VS. IBIS is more or less useless, so your
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Hi Peka

what I understood there is always a risk of haze on older lenses .. not fun to get it though.. Hope I don't get it
Focus is not easy and it's a shooting zoom ..
Ibis I think is pretty efficient so I don't really agree with you there
It is possible to handhold at lower shutter times .. but sure .keepers is not high in %
Compare with GM 100-400 which is a new and more expensive Lens
In Sweden costs GM 100-400 approx 2800 euros... I gave a lot less for C/Y 100-300 approx 650 euros ... I agree with you about warranty .. exif data, more reach up to 400 mm and IS and surely GM is a better lens but we talking a completely different price range as well




Handheld 1/5 iso 6400 IBIS set 300mm @5.6
Contax 100-300mm F/4.5-5.6 Vario-Sonnar T*


A7R II + Contax 100-300mm F/4.5-5.6 Vario-Sonnar T* by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr


Handheld 1/80 and Iso 1250 WO at 250-300mm


Sony A7R II + Contax 100-300mm F/4.5-5.6 Vario-Sonnar T* by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr


so IBIS most be quite effective ?



Jan 03, 2018 at 09:11 PM
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p.21 #2 · p.21 #2 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


Ronny, Phillip,
believe me Ronny, I know and have seen all your pictures with VS 100-300 you offered here and looked @ them closely. You do master this lens exceptionally. Really good. No need to show some examples, I know them all, they are all outstanding ...

When I tried to become friend with mine lens, I soon learned that IBIS is difficult to use. If you nail focus, the lens really shines, BUT... zooming in or out needs adjusting IBIS. Very annoying.

Philip, I understand what you mean. The pictures from this lens have something 'special' that I liked, too. But hitting focus without AF was too difficult for me.

And then there was a retired engineer from kyocera, with in depth knowledge of this lens and it's construction I could contact a few months ago.
He told me, that Zeiss (20 years ago) could not always get the glass they wanted from Scott (who regularly made it for them) and had to take what they could get. Refractive indices of the used lens elements were not consistent, and the glue between lens elements had to be changed, That's what I was told, and that was a reason to step back. Many of these lenses get hazy over time, due to the glue used.

If your lens is fine, be proud and keep the pictures coming in.
Keep in mind, haze in the rear element can start any time.



Jan 03, 2018 at 10:56 PM
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p.21 #3 · p.21 #3 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


anyone talk to John from Focal Point Lens I think it was and see if he can separate and re-glue the elements?


Jan 04, 2018 at 03:14 AM
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p.21 #4 · p.21 #4 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


What I've seen previously is that, according to Zeiss, the elements can't be separated without destroying them, and they no longer have replacement stock. There was also talk that they tried different types of glue during production; some (most) develop haze, but some apparently don't.


Jan 04, 2018 at 04:03 AM
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p.21 #5 · p.21 #5 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


This all makes me want to list mine ASAP, as if it’s going to appear tomorrow! Still, if anyone has a hazy one they should reach out. Zeiss isn’t in the business of separating lenses, John is, who knows?


Jan 04, 2018 at 05:00 AM
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p.21 #6 · p.21 #6 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


Even if separating lenses is possible, problem is to re-glue them properly. You need to have glue with refractive index according to the indices of the glass elements you want to glue. And these elements were not made of the same glass over time.


Jan 04, 2018 at 08:43 AM
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p.21 #7 · p.21 #7 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


I don't know about the CY 100-300 specifically, but John at Focalpoint in Louisville Colorado does offer this on other lenses.


Jan 04, 2018 at 02:13 PM
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p.21 #8 · p.21 #8 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


Rob L wrote:
I don't know about the CY 100-300 specifically, but John at Focalpoint in Louisville Colorado does offer this on other lenses.


Focalpoint is closed down.



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p.21 #9 · p.21 #9 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


I've shot this scene with 3-4 lenses; none were close to the 'presence' of the 100-300.







Jan 08, 2018 at 05:11 AM
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p.21 #10 · p.21 #10 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


Lovely place Gjáin


A7R II + Contax 100-300mm F/4.5-5.6 Vario-Sonnar T* by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr




A7R II + Contax 100-300mm F/4.5-5.6 Vario-Sonnar T* by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr



Jan 09, 2018 at 08:26 PM
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p.21 #11 · p.21 #11 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


Figured I'd see if this board can talk me out of it... put my 100-300 up for sale. Happened to try a EF 70-200 f/4 L out at the same time. Doesn't have the bite of the Contax, but it doesn't lag a lot to my eyes. Bokeh also seems smoother, though both are nice. But from a handling perspective I find the EF, with a smart adapter and not fiddling with IBIS settings to be more friendly. Also find MF less touchy, with the option for AF (but need a better adapter.) So am I completely crazy? i know the CY is a legend, but the 70-200/4 has a great reputation in it's own right...


Jan 09, 2018 at 09:20 PM
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p.21 #12 · p.21 #12 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


You'll be sorry!


Jan 09, 2018 at 09:47 PM
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p.21 #13 · p.21 #13 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


Mathieu18 wrote:
Figured I'd see if this board can talk me out of it... put my 100-300 up for sale. Happened to try a EF 70-200 f/4 L out at the same time. Doesn't have the bite of the Contax, but it doesn't lag a lot to my eyes. Bokeh also seems smoother, though both are nice. But from a handling perspective I find the EF, with a smart adapter and not fiddling with IBIS settings to be more friendly. Also find MF less touchy, with the option for AF (but need a better adapter.) So am I completely crazy? i know
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I have a Canon 70-300L right now, and a CY 100-300. I am selling the CY 100-300 though. The CY images are vastly preferable to me, but it's more of a tripod lens, worse IBIS, older and with fungus issues. You'll always miss the CY 100-300 probably (especially when you are shooting the 70-200) but you also never be quite happy if you have it

Collecting lenses/developing particular taste puts us in this impossible position where many of the lenses we want become more impractical/difficult to own as time goes one, but it doesn't make them any less attractive.

Somehow I don't own my two favorite lenses ever, but own other lenses in the same class. It's weird.

Also, lovely fall shots above Ronny.


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Jan 10, 2018 at 07:10 PM
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p.21 #14 · p.21 #14 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


Please pardon my etiquette, I should have started by saying your shots make a very stong case for keeping it, but then I know it's much more the photographer.

Ronny Olsson wrote:
Lovely place Gjáin

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4633/38684659435_cb9a85abdc_h.jpg
A7R II + Contax 100-300mm F/4.5-5.6 Vario-Sonnar T* by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4719/24733151887_af659c6f84_h.jpg
A7R II + Contax 100-300mm F/4.5-5.6 Vario-Sonnar T* by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr


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Ha, succinctly put!

DannyBurkPhoto wrote:
You'll be sorry!


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Well put. I suppose it's generally true and probably something to just live with and not fret over. Lenses come and go...

Also fair point about favorites you don't own. I prefer 35's and have two or three I'd like, yet I have none of them and have other lenses I'm likely to buy first...

Maybe I'll just list both and keep which ever doesn't sell. Let fate decide for me.

Thanks

nehemiahphoto wrote:
I have a Canon 70-300L right now, and a CY 100-300. I am selling the CY 100-300 though. The CY images are vastly preferable to me, but it's more of a tripod lens, worse IBIS, older and with fungus issues. You'll always miss the CY 100-300 probably (especially when you are shooting the 70-200) but you also never be quite happy if you have it

Collecting lenses/developing particular taste puts us in this inmpossible position where many of the lenses we want become more impractical/difficult to own as time goes one, but it doesn't make them any less attractive.

Somehow
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Jan 10, 2018 at 07:19 PM
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p.21 #15 · p.21 #15 · The Contax 100-300 Vario-Sonnar


Not a bird shooter, but points for the Contax here...












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