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A7+Minolta MD Macro Rokkor 100/4
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1456169085.SEQ.0.jpg




Feb 27, 2016 at 04:48 AM
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55/1.7 wide open:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1605/25072613190_2fee5640f7_o.jpg



Mar 03, 2016 at 01:02 AM
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p.109 #3 · p.109 #3 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Old bricks - new bricks, 58 f/1.2







Mar 09, 2016 at 04:58 PM
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58/1.2:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1645/25336432010_af052b1f58_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1651/25264508099_a373241ecd_o.jpg




Mar 09, 2016 at 05:04 PM
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p.109 #5 · p.109 #5 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Wow, the last post is three weeks old, it seems that Minolta is less popular today.

I just finished a review of the Minolta MC Rokkor 35mm 1:1.8
















Mar 29, 2016 at 07:23 AM
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p.109 #6 · p.109 #6 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Phillip Reeve wrote:
Wow, the last post is three weeks old, it seems that Minolta is less popular today.

I just finished a review of the Minolta MC Rokkor 35mm 1:1.8

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1656/25490444893_f97106369b_o.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1459/25820191630_b5e57816db_o.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1674/25471045493_afa1b78490_o.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1507/25471035223_ab5f00f21b_o.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1480/25468878334_c755f1b1e4_o.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1615/26073635185_d8f72a6f1b_o.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1550/25800792370_057d123fb6_o.jpg


Beautiful pictures and as usual an excellent review. I would like to offer a correction, however. I am pretty sure this lens does not have floating elements. I did my best to investigate this issue at one time and although I found one source that claimed that it had floating elements. I found several that suggested it did not. In the end I was persuaded by the argument that the Minolta MC lenses with floating elements (e.g., the 24 f/2.,8, the 28 f/2) had both floating elements and a rotating front filter threads, whereas those that did not (e.g., 35 f/2.8, 28 f/2.8) did not have rotating front filter threads.



Mar 29, 2016 at 08:03 AM
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That 35 looks to be a real sweet lens!


Mar 29, 2016 at 08:48 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
Beautiful pictures and as usual an excellent review. I would like to offer a correction, however. I am pretty sure this lens does not have floating elements. I did my best to investigate this issue at one time and although I found one source that claimed that it had floating elements. I found several that suggested it did not. In the end I was persuaded by the argument that the Minolta MC lenses with floating elements (e.g., the 24 f/2.,8, the 28 f/2) had both floating elements and a rotating front filter threads, whereas those that did not (e.g.,
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Thanks for the correction



Mar 29, 2016 at 10:11 AM
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Phillip Reeve wrote:
Wow, the last post is three weeks old, it seems that Minolta is less popular today.


i think most people shooting minoltas have embraced the sony a7s and just post on that thread.

here's a few with the rokkor MC PF 58/1.4, a lens i never really liked on aps-c but liked on film and FF as more of a "character lens".

http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1617/25637836803_c50c0cc8ee_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1479/26240578395_37e912a75b_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1583/26148055402_6c2536e18d_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1695/26148056032_daeb5db123_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1659/25637836683_60aa9418aa_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1540/26240511065_46bac0f6bf_o.jpg




Apr 04, 2016 at 05:20 PM
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p.109 #10 · p.109 #10 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Two shots with my favorite Rokkor, the lower 75/3.5 in my Minolta Autocord CdS TLR ;-)


Mecklenburg, Heimat by Georg, auf Flickr
Autocord CdS, exposure unrecorded, Trix-X in Diafine, printed (not so well) on Foma-RC-paper


ouch! messed up the tones by Georg, auf Flickr
Autocord CdS, red-filter, Fuji Acros in Diafine, got unfortunately matching tones between boom/outrigger and the surrounding sky


Btw, I have a MD 24-35/3.5 without a camera. Is this one an "okay" performer on a matching film-body?



Apr 04, 2016 at 05:59 PM
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p.109 #11 · p.109 #11 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


sebboh wrote:
i think most people shooting minoltas have embraced the sony a7s and just post on that thread.

here's a few with the rokkor MC PF 58/1.4, a lens i never really liked on aps-c but liked on film and FF as more of a "character lens".

http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1617/25637836803_c50c0cc8ee_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1479/26240578395_37e912a75b_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1583/26148055402_6c2536e18d_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1695/26148056032_daeb5db123_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1659/25637836683_60aa9418aa_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1540/26240511065_46bac0f6bf_o.jpg


sure but that's not really a new trend, is it?

Which version of the MC 1.4/58 do you have? the older one or the newer one? The newer one is supposed to be quite a bit sharper but while I have both versions I never found the time to really use them, still have far too many lenses (OM 2/28, 1.8/50 and 4/75-150 along with Zeiss MP 2/100 beeing the newest)



Apr 05, 2016 at 09:10 AM
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Personally I think it's better to post in the various lens threads than in the FE pool, but that's just me. IMO what's interesting is how a lens / lens family draws, not how the FE cameras draw, so to say.

Anyways, took the A7s an the Rokkor 58/1.2 to the forests. All shot at around 2-2.8.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1533/25982499390_43e854a1ab_o.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1576/25982503840_63eb8d5e76_o.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1593/25650568024_59cd6c5ec8_o.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1641/26229421276_5287a91e5c_o.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1510/25982508840_98ea69ba9d_o.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1544/26189090261_bda4606c7b_o.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1618/25982513920_51cfbae484_o.jpg




Apr 05, 2016 at 11:53 AM
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Phillip Reeve wrote:
sure but that's not really a new trend, is it?

Which version of the MC 1.4/58 do you have? the older one or the newer one? The newer one is supposed to be quite a bit sharper but while I have both versions I never found the time to really use them, still have far too many lenses (OM 2/28, 1.8/50 and 4/75-150 along with Zeiss MP 2/100 beeing the newest)


not a new trend, but this thread has been deadish for a long time. I also like the lens type specific threads better, they seem to be on the decline though since the a7 came out.

I have both versions of the 58/1.4, I tested them a while ago and haven't noticed any difference except in coatings and aperture blades (the older version has 8). I think the talk of the new one being sharper is wishful thinking, the MC PG 50/1.4 is a much better performer across the board.



Apr 05, 2016 at 03:40 PM
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sebboh wrote:
I have both versions of the 58/1.4, I tested them a while ago and haven't noticed any difference except in coatings and aperture blades (the older version has 8). I think the talk of the new one being sharper is wishful thinking, the MC PG 50/1.4 is a much better performer across the board.

I wasn't precise enough. Stephan from Artaphot.ch writes that the MC-II version is improved a lot and not quite close in performance to the 1.4/50's while the older MC-I is quite a bit softer. I think you talk about Auto vs MC.

I just ran a quick comparison at a distance of about 1.5m and was surprised how good resolution and little astigmatism my MC-I has in the corners. Contrast is very low but only my MD 2/50 comes close to the resolution at f/2 and even f/1.4. MC 1.4/50, 1.2/58, 1.7/55, C/Y 1.4/50, nFD 1.4/50, OM 1.8/50 all have less resolution in the corners (and they are all sharper in the center )

But I can confirm that the MC-II has noticeably improved contrast over the MC-I but the MC 1.4/50 has still more contrast at f/1.4



Apr 05, 2016 at 05:12 PM
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Phillip Reeve wrote:
I wasn't precise enough. Stephan from Artaphot.ch writes that the MC-II version is improved a lot and not quite close in performance to the 1.4/50's while the older MC-I is quite a bit softer. I think you talk about Auto vs MC.

I just ran a quick comparison at a distance of about 1.5m and was surprised how good resolution and little astigmatism my MC-I has in the corners. Contrast is very low but only my MD 2/50 comes close to the resolution at f/2 and even f/1.4. MC 1.4/50, 1.2/58, 1.7/55, C/Y 1.4/50, nFD 1.4/50, OM 1.8/50 all have
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ah, you are right. i was thinking the auto vs MC. how do i tell what version of the MC i have? the serial number is 588****.

more with it:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1515/26214576556_325581346e_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1497/26148055292_3a5064f28b_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1639/25635736374_56a29ebd15_o.jpg
and the 55/1.7:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1575/25950254750_629953675e_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1649/25593582623_b5deacf766_o.jpg



Apr 05, 2016 at 05:45 PM
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sebboh wrote:
ah, you are right. i was thinking the auto vs MC. how do i tell what version of the MC i have? the serial number is 588****.

more with it:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1515/26214576556_325581346e_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1497/26148055292_3a5064f28b_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1639/25635736374_56a29ebd15_o.jpg
and the 55/1.7:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1575/25950254750_629953675e_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1649/25593582623_b5deacf766_o.jpg


According to this page at the Rokkor files:

http://www.rokkorfiles.com/Lens%20History.html

MC I lenses have a metal focus ring and MC II lenses have the rubber waffled focus ring, so it should be easy to tell the difference.



Apr 05, 2016 at 06:30 PM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
According to this page at the Rokkor files:

http://www.rokkorfiles.com/Lens%20History.html

MC I lenses have a metal focus ring and MC II lenses have the rubber waffled focus ring, so it should be easy to tell the difference.


ah, i didn't know there even was a 58/1.4 with the rubber focus ring...




Apr 05, 2016 at 08:00 PM
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p.109 #18 · p.109 #18 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


keeping the thread moving...

rokkor 58/1.4:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1623/25994094020_bd8b1e6555_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1530/26174494982_643c6df6d1_o.jpg
rokkor 58/1.2:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1640/26100471325_dbce4ff264_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1711/26007940982_9808c20416_o.jpg



Apr 06, 2016 at 11:15 PM
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A7R+MD Macro Rokkor 100/4.0 wide open
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1460280874.SEQ.1.jpg
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1460280886.SEQ.7.jpg
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1460280883.SEQ.6.jpg
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1460280869.SEQ.0.jpg
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1460280882.SEQ.5.jpg
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1460280935.SEQ.0.jpg

A7R+Minolta "plain" MD 100/2.5 wide open
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1460280936.SEQ.1.jpg
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1460280876.SEQ.2.jpg
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1460280879.SEQ.4.jpg
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1460280878.SEQ.3.jpg



Apr 10, 2016 at 04:37 AM
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A7R+MD Macro Rokkor 100/4.0
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/U951I1461697548.SEQ.0.jpg



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