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p.761 #1 · p.761 #1 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


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Thanks Adam. Sell me one of your Contax 80/2 lens? . Contax 645 AF lenses are nice, very smooth but I think they are showing their age when compared to the Hassy H or Leica S lenses? I'll get a set at some point, especially the 80/2 and 120/4 Macro. On the S2, with the crop factor, we do lose a little of the Contax 80/2 magic, but its still a very nice lens, great for portraits. I'm not really considering the Hassy H lenses as they are slower than the S counterparts and also quite pricey. Might as
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Good points. I'm wondering if the smaller sensor makes to much of a negative impact on the overall image. I mean to the point where I'd rather not give up the DSLR high ISO and autofocus speeds (almost like ). It's hard to say.. So at the end of the day, even though you'll have great fun adapting lenses, maybe you're right, the Leica S-lenses are probably the biggest draw to the system. That's what I felt anyway from the brief few shoots I did with it.

The Hassy lenses are ok, I liked the 100/2 and I though that MF speed was on par with the S lenses, and it's actually a pretty decent lens. The only reason I mentioned it though, is from what I've been seeing, it can be had used for a good amount less then what a Leica 70mm costs, and it's compatible with the S-system. Though by that logic, I think you should give the 80/2 a shot, it's a much better/cheaper lens.

From my use, I found autofocus to be a problem (especially with subjects walking towards me), to the point where I manual focused. And I prefer to manual focus my contax (maybe because I have a brightening screen installed?). But at the end of the day you are right, the contax system is "dated" and then you'll find yourself hoarding them like me.. I have so many redundant parts and extra kits, it's annoying. And for the price these suckers fetch now a days, if I sold everything off, I could almost afford a S-system anyway.

Honestly though, every time I look at my 80/2 images, I really think that lens is hard to beat. So please do borrow one soon (if I were in the states, I'd let you borrow one of mine).. I'd love to see how it looks on the S-system (you might convince me to buy one yet).
That and yes, I completely forgot, the 110 hassy/zeiss lens is great. Someone on the forum here a long time ago use to shoot with one.. He's gone now (went to getdpi, then disappeared).. But he always took amazing shots with that lens.




Oct 12, 2013 at 09:34 AM
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p.761 #2 · p.761 #2 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Great shots everyone! Lovely work and very insipring!

Just one observation from regularly visiting this thread and looking at all the posted photographs. Does anyone else find the M240 files really flat? (not in contrast but in 3D rendering). Compared the the M9 and S2 shots, I can't help but be underwhelmed by the M240 general rendering. Is it the CCD vs CMOS or something else?



Oct 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM
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p.761 #3 · p.761 #3 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Thank you Joe, Michael and Adam, and for all the likes
Joe, great portraits, and I am loving your images from the S2!!
Luka, superb shots!
Edward, you are right the images from the M240 are flatter, as are the files from the Sony RX1R. My feeling is that with the increased dynamic range of both, there is a need to further enhance to image via PP'ing. Still early days and a lot to learn.

There is a definite improvement in skin tones with the M240 after the latest update, and I will post some shots later.

Sony's A7r 36MP this month on the 16th will prove to be a game changer. I'm not necessarily aligned or tied to Leica, and I must admit if the A7r performs, it will be a system to be along side the M240. I have been so impressed with the RX1R, the sensor and lens, yet ergonomically I still pick up the M240 all the time. This was not the case before when I had the M9P, where the RX1R was used equally. I feel the ergonomics of using the system to capture the images are as important now, as the difference in the FF outputs are really being decided by the final PP'ing and subtleties decided by the manufacturers. I am very excited by the news of the A7r and the direction Sony is taking



Oct 12, 2013 at 12:35 PM
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p.761 #4 · p.761 #4 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread



edwardkaraa wrote:
Great shots everyone! Lovely work and very insipring!

Just one observation from regularly visiting this thread and looking at all the posted photographs. Does anyone else find the M240 files really flat? (not in contrast but in 3D rendering). Compared the the M9 and S2 shots, I can't help but be underwhelmed by the M240 general rendering. Is it the CCD vs CMOS or something else?

Edward, you are brave I tend to agree this. I thought that all digital camera will be similar as long as you profile your camera, keep good WB etc.... But since tried Canon 6d, and also compare M9 with D700, I realize camera's signature is very strong, strong enough that you can trace its signature by viewing enough images from each.
In this case, I will reserve the right to say which is better or worse, but personally, can only say i prefer M9's color. It's signature is so strong make me think this is leica color, and my D700 is nikon color I will use to judge that brand. I'd say difference is obvious. If you set your reference as M9, then the difference won't make you happy. Otherwise, if you set your reference to M240, you might not happy with M9 as well I wasn't happy at the time of getting M9, now everything changed

Luka, great images, miss your images and intelligent talk
Adam, I envy you have so many system/gear to choose from. I agree Manual focus is the way to go with meformat, especially with the skill I gained over the year chase kids with my DSLR kit




Oct 12, 2013 at 01:11 PM
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p.761 #5 · p.761 #5 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


zhangyue - hahah, yes you are one skilled focus puller

Honestly with the M9 when I got good colors, they were REALLY good, but a lot of the time I got below average results.. But with the M240 I don't get WOWed but I get consistently good results. So I think for some, the M9 is a great tool, as they get consistently GREAT results, for others, they end up preferring the M240. As for flat images, I think it might have something to do with dynamic range.. I find I really dislike the 28cron on the M240, but love it on the M9.. Really seems like a DR issue.

On the other end of the camera pond, I feel the D700 is probably the best digital sensor Nikon ever owned, and I'm sad I sold off two of my D700 bodies.. I only have one left. The D3s comes second (perhaps a tweaked version of the D700 sensor?), followed by the D4.
The funny thing, my friend disagrees with me.. He loves his D800, and sold off the D700 and has never looked back (I dislike the D800).
So I guess at the end of the day, it's really personal preference.

But there is no denying that the M240 is much more precise with it's focusing, and a tighter, nicer body.. I could do without the video button/microphone, but I love the rangefinder mechanism.



Oct 12, 2013 at 02:16 PM
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p.761 #6 · p.761 #6 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Thank you Charles, zhangyue and Adam. Indeed the increased DR could be the reason. I also feel that the low iso of the CCD sensor has a certain something magical, while it is undeniable at anything above the base iso, the CMOS is unbeatable. I really like Joe's S2 shots even though he's not even using a Leica lens, but I find the rendering to be closer to the M9 than to the M240, only better


Oct 12, 2013 at 04:20 PM
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p.761 #7 · p.761 #7 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Joe - enjoying your S2 pics very much. Perhaps a little *too* much....
Luka - you really have to post more often! Your creativity and PP is second to none...
Edward - you are correct that the the files from the M240 appear more "flat" SOOC. I have found that I can process them to get pretty close to M9 output but that is really not what I am after. I happen to love the output from my D700 and enjoy the fact that the M240 is quite similar in many aspects. An aside note, I find the JPG files from M240 are closer to the M9 output than the DNG's are. Having said this, I personally find the other M240 features make the choice a no brainer for me. FWIW - the new firmware update has made quite a difference with the WB issues and a little better start up time for me. I'm happy!

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Oct 12, 2013 at 06:34 PM
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p.761 #8 · p.761 #8 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Joakim great Autumn colors! The last one with the blues are awesome, makes me want to get a M9

Ryan the 3rd for me wonderful composition, yes use your MM!

Charles love that 1st shot the rendering is delicious!

Joe nice very nice shots w/the S2! The B and W does it for me! Sell it to me when you get bored of it
The 5th shot has that magical rendering to it!

Luka the first for me, wow didn't know you can have different colors in one shot!

Phil

Mono w/Nocti 1.0

Hunger and Resilience Exhibit, very emotional for me to hear what they go through just to get something to eat
















Oct 13, 2013 at 12:25 AM
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p.761 #9 · p.761 #9 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Gary Clennan wrote:
Joe - enjoying your S2 pics very much. Perhaps a little *too* much....
Luka - you really have to post more often! Your creativity and PP is second to none...
Edward - you are correct that the the files from the M240 appear more "flat" SOOC. I have found that I can process them to get pretty close to M9 output but that is really not what I am after. I happen to love the output from my D700 and enjoy the fact that the M240 is quite similar in many aspects. An aside note, I find the JPG
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Thanks for the heads up. I'll update today.



Oct 13, 2013 at 04:01 AM
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p.761 #11 · p.761 #11 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Ok,

So first two pictures illustrate flare problems. First is obvious, and strange.. Second photo is more subtle, and I actually don't mind it. In the 5th photo, the seals not dead, he's just resting.
Oh and in the first shot, that's not sensor dust.. Those are birds, if you zoom in, you can see them!

All shot with 50APO probably wide open from SF-LA

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Oct 13, 2013 at 05:14 AM
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p.761 #12 · p.761 #12 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Thank you Phil, and for all the likes
Phil, very nice! The magic of the Nocti combined with M-M!
Allen, superb series!!! I love how you have taken the elements and put together a wonderful journal of the event.
Adam, really like how the 50 APO paints!

Shot from a baby shower with the M240, updated with the latest firmware with the 50 Cron Rigid DR at f/2.0 std WB The second shot is a B&W conversion in SEP II.












Oct 13, 2013 at 07:54 AM
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p.761 #13 · p.761 #13 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Spammer...I reported this to Fred...

Edd



Oct 13, 2013 at 11:28 AM
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p.761 #14 · p.761 #14 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Thanks ed, who the heck wants a minivan anyway...


Oct 13, 2013 at 01:47 PM
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p.761 #15 · p.761 #15 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Uncle James?


Oct 13, 2013 at 01:53 PM
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p.761 #16 · p.761 #16 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Great pictures everyone!

It wasn't a interesting day to take pictures, therefore just a two snapshots. There was already plenty of snow....












Oct 13, 2013 at 03:51 PM
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p.761 #17 · p.761 #17 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Minivans rock!

Allen superb series as Charles said, love the second to the last shot!

Adam glad it's a resting seal and not a dead one

So Charles congrats on being a grandfather, those old lens still rock on the newer machines! Great filmish look to these

Peter that first one is awesome, great composition Sir, plus it's B and W so it gets extra points

Phil



Oct 13, 2013 at 03:53 PM
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p.761 #18 · p.761 #18 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Thanks for comments and likes!

Ryan, great photos with the Monochrom. I am so tempted to get that camera.
Charles, great set from Bali and very nice portraits from the baby shower
Joe, I really like the photos from your S2.
Luka, great examples of the colours we're seeing here in Stockholm now
Phil, great way to reproduce those portraits.
Allen, a rodeo? Great set.
Adam, even if the second one is meant as an example of flare I find the composition interesting.

Here is something that would be described as fall colors by some M9 and 90 Elmarit









Oct 13, 2013 at 04:02 PM
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p.761 #19 · p.761 #19 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Peter, I agree with Phil about the first one.


Oct 13, 2013 at 04:03 PM
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p.761 #20 · p.761 #20 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Charles, nice shots.. I also updated the firmware today as well, thanks to Gary.

Yes I'm ridiculously happy with the 50APO. The Noctilux is also growing on me. And I do love the Summilux.. Geeze, I'm gonna end up keeping all three 50mm lenses :0





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