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p.730 #1 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Couple of shots after a storm. Sorry for the high iso noise, handheld:


M9 + Zeiss 35 Biogon by edward karaa, on Flickr


M9 + Zeiss 35 Biogon by edward karaa, on Flickr



Jul 01, 2013 at 12:10 PM
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p.730 #2 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Edward, very nice. I prefer the first one.


Jul 01, 2013 at 01:34 PM
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p.730 #3 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


joakim wrote:
Edward, very nice. I prefer the first one.


+1! But I prefer the 2nd

used the new Voigtlander 50 f/1.5 over the weekend. They say it has a slight change in the formula, but that slight change made for a great improvement in sharpness and bokeh if you ask me. I have seen some say it has similar look to pre-ASPH 50 f/1.4 but I don't think so at all. Wide open in the center the Nokton is very sharp at all distances. The pre-ASPH is NOT. The pre-ASPH also has more of a swirl to the bokeh. The Nokton is far more modern looking and dare I say, resembles the ASPH a lot more than the pre-ASPH. The corner to corner sharpness isn't quite up to the ASPH (more than good enough, though), but stopped down it is VERY close in sharpness to the ASPH. Distortion is definitely there, though nothing LR4/LR5 can't fix

First shot below wide open (focus on closest eye) hand held with a 100% crop (UNEDITED)







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couple shots of character of lens.....

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Jul 01, 2013 at 02:33 PM
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p.730 #4 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Ryan, Nokton 50 1.5 looking good! Excellent shots.


Jul 01, 2013 at 02:36 PM
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p.730 #5 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Excellent post over the weekend everyone!

Mitch, excellent low light shots with the M9. #1,3 & 7 are my favorites. Good use of your 50Lux pre-ASPH.
Peter, what a hike, love those shots and views. Stunning.
Shuko, welcome, excellent work, #3 & 5 are my favorites.
Ron, love the first one with the Sonnar 5cm 1.5.
Edward, beautiful sunset!



Jul 01, 2013 at 02:41 PM
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p.730 #6 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Thank you Joakim, Ryan and Joe !

Ryan, lovely portraits with the nokton. I especially like first, second and last shot.



Jul 01, 2013 at 02:43 PM
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p.730 #7 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


joakim wrote:
Edward, very nice. I prefer the first one.


Agree....



Jul 01, 2013 at 03:13 PM
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p.730 #8 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Ryan - The new 50 1.5 reminds me of the old LTM one. I have the same issues with yours that I did mine. My issues based on your images, and the memory of my old LTM, was that I found the bokeh to be very distracting at half to full body distances, similar to your images, but up close and personal it has a really neat softness to a what should be sketchy bokeh. BTW, the last shot is awesome (tad out of focus, due to her head tilt and DOF limitations, so if you soften up the flower and band in her hair the eye will be drawn to her eye, and it'll just have that calm softness of film).

Mitch - Really weird, the only images that were showing up for me when I seen that page a week or so ago was the vespa and the girl in pink walking against the flow. And when I clicked on the links last week, flickr was being crazy, n I couldn't click next (I did just now though, some excellent captures).

Edward - Nice colors in that sunset!



Jul 01, 2013 at 04:21 PM
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p.730 #9 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


very nice Edward -

Here's one of my daughter with the m9+50 planar







Jul 01, 2013 at 04:42 PM
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p.730 #10 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Edward, Both great, only if 2nd one correct perspective distortion will be even better. In the first case, slightly distortion actually helps the subject
Ryan, Congr for Nocton, Very beautiful set of portraits, the crop looks great, sharp enough for me for sure. VC usually has CA problem, how about this one. (I know it can be removed by LR.)
Tagfun, beautiful!



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p.730 #11 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Allen, Adam, Tagfan, zhangyue thank you very much!

Very sweet portrait, Tag! Beautiful colors and expression.



Jul 01, 2013 at 05:41 PM
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p.730 #12 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Shuko: nice set, I like 3+4 the most, welcome to the thread
Ron: from your last set I like the first the most, but for me personal, the many "burned" highlights a bit distracting.
Edward: Both are really sweet, but if I have to choose one, it would be the second.
rsolti13:1+2 are very lovely, my favorite is the last one, but her soft left eye distracts me a bit
joe: thanks for the kind words
TAGfan: I love her natural expression, very nice!



Jul 01, 2013 at 06:13 PM
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p.730 #13 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Edward - nice sunsets! Tough to pick between the two. In the second my eye is immediately drawn to the ferris wheel. Not necessarily a bad thing, but if it's a matter of simply enjoying the sunset, then I prefer the moodiness of the first one.
Scott - looks good - and a good chance to compare against the CV in Ryan's photos. The Zeiss is definitely a bit edgier in background rendering.
Ryan - great set! The CV has very pleasing color and contrast. A very good balance. I'm not so sure there's any difference in the optical formula other than perhaps the coatings? Here's a post on LUF comparing the CV against the Lux ASPH as well as the older version. The only difference I see in his samples is better flare/contrast control in the new version vs. old. But that's a good thing because it's what I didn't really like about the older one - a sometimes slightly bland color/tonality quality. But purple fringing still happens, and may or may not be a problem for some.

Mitch - the idea of the 'ISO-less' approach when using the M9 was originally you set the ISO to 160 and when possible, make normal looking exposures. As light levels drop and you need to maintain higher shutter speeds or stop down for more depth of field, simply use what you need to make the photo and then push the DNG file accordingly in post. The technical analysis by Kasson found that you can actually do this up to ISO 640 in-camera without seeing a real difference in post. I'm not sure Doug was advocating a traditional ETTR approach, but in any case, my take on it is I try to get a pleasing looking exposure when possible, but if I can't, then I just ensure I don't clip the highlights. This goes for nighttime shooting, or full sun in the middle of the day.

Down by the water again last evening. While the sunset wasn't 'perfect' the clouds were relatively interesting...

50 Lux ASPH:











Nikkor 10.5cm f/2.5 LTM:






This time out I made an effort to shoot the Nikkor stopped down more in the f/4-5.6 range, and I somewhat retract my earlier misgivings about it for across frame sharpness compared to modern lenses. By this point it's already sharp across about 90% of the frame. Wide open it falls off quite substantially in the outer 1/3, which is where a lens like the modern 90 Summarit performs better.
I also shot a lot of the 50mm scenes with the Lux ASPH rather than the Zeiss Sonnar, and many of those were at or near wide open (the first above is wide open and the second is stopped down to f/2-2.8), primarily to blur the water in the foreground as much as possible. What you don't see at web-rez is that the landscape on the horizon is sharp across the frame, which impresses me a lot about this lens. It's simply a lens you can use wide open at all distances and get good results across the frame, without fuss, if that's what you want.



Jul 01, 2013 at 06:16 PM
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p.730 #14 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Thanks guys. muc_marlin, the left eye I agree is VERY distracting....hmm.....

Ron, really like #2, fantastic colors. Like the low profile view

Michael, the fringing is VERY minimal. Those shots above were shot either wide open or f/2, no CA adjustments made in pp. I think a great improvement of CV lately has been coating enhancements. Take the CV 35 f/1.2 II, the flare and CA control when the lens is shot at very wide apertures is a great improvement over the first version. It looks like that was also an area of great concentration with the new 50 f/1.5 Nokton. That being said, still not Lux ASPH absent and I would assume that the situations the Lux struggles in the Nokton would do far worse

Adam, I would agree with a lot of what you say, but the majority of where I have seen the Nokton exhibit 'busy' bokeh where the Lux ASPH would really show its true colors is the first shot above. Busy areas about 10-15 feet behind the subject. When the background is about 20 feet or greater back it is very smooth, see below...shot wide open. BUT, at 1/4th the price of the LUX Asph its a hell of a deal. The sharpness on the focus area is excellent

Ron, excellent link. That just shows the perfection of the Lux ASPH and how special of a lens it is. The smoothness of the Lux bokeh looks to be the main difference....I guess the question for potential buyers, how much is it worth to you? I have seen some say same optical formula and then quote Kobayashi as saying 'minor changes' to the formula. I'm not sure as I don't have the original and haven't seen a good controlled comparison yet, but the diameter of the lens is less and is in a more compact build. I would think some changes to the formula occurred, however minor. I would agree though that the majority of change is with the coating. If you look at that link you sent where it compares at f/5.6 there is a major difference in flare control with the old/new version. I am also surprised to see that the new CV looks to be contrastier than the Lux ASPH.








Jul 01, 2013 at 06:42 PM
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p.730 #15 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Very nice Ryan, CV50 1.5 is tempting for me not because of sharpness, but because it looks so cool and retro in chrome version!
Scott, nice one with the ZM50P
Ron, another excellent set, the last ray of light on the 3rd shot is beautiful!



Jul 01, 2013 at 07:11 PM
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p.730 #16 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Ryan, I agree with you about CV's latest lenses and coatings. The 21/1.8 really impressed with its image quality/control. When viewed at certain angles, it was as though there wasn't any glass in the lens; the coating reflections were so minimal.

I still have the original CV 50/1.5 - should we meet for a shootout? Joking aside, the coatings on my copy are yellow-green, green, orange and magenta-orange, as viewed from the front (with one element farther back that has a nearly white reflection). What do you see looking into your glass?

Nikkor 10.5cm f/2.5 LTM:





















Thanks Joe! I agree, the styling is very cool, especially in chrome.



Jul 01, 2013 at 07:12 PM
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p.730 #17 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


Love the last on Ron!!!!!


Jul 01, 2013 at 08:06 PM
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p.730 #18 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


airfrogusmc wrote:
Love the last on Ron!!!!!


My favorite as well!



Jul 01, 2013 at 08:25 PM
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p.730 #19 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


zhangyue wrote:
VC usually has CA problem, how about this one. (I know it can be removed by LR.)


Great set of your daughter and that lens looks real good. I echo Michael's point about CA - mostly all fast CV lenses I have tried suffered greatly from this. The CV35VII f/1.2 had the same issue (but more rarely) as well. Fairly easily cleaned up in post but still troublesome. Which version of the pre-ASPH did you have? Mine is E46 and is quite sharp in the center.....


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Jul 02, 2013 at 02:02 AM
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p.730 #20 · Leica M/X/T Picture Thread


I did more playing around with the CV Nokton 50 f/1.5 today.....now I'm starting to change my mind on it. Sharpness is not an issue, but I am finding many areas where the bokeh is just hard to look at. It ruins images. As Adam mentioned above, extremely close up near mfd the oof rendering is quite nice. But once you step back a few feet the background gets beyond busy. See the first two shots below, the first is near mfd, the second is back a couple feet. The third shot is also near mfd, but with a background close to the focal point. I suddenly see a 50 Cron in my future













BARF!








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