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p.718 #4 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread | |
adamdewilde wrote:
Couple of not so quick questions for those who care to read/chime in..
My wife and I had a long debate, I'll spare you the details, but her take was: If she used an M240 her two lenses would be the 50APO and 50Noctilux (she's a fifty lover). Her logic, if you want technical perfection, and are in sunny conditions the 50APO is all you need. If you want dreamy bokeh or a good low light lens, the 50Noctilux is all you need. Reason to have both, one's small and makes a good all around lens, the other one is a night-owl like her (but to heavy for all around use). [she did all the research on her own, honest]
To further her argument, she said a fifty is a 35 if you take two steps back, and a 75 if you take two steps forward. So why buy other focal lengths, changing lenses is just a distraction. (Without opening up a can of worms, let's just say she makes a decent argument.)
It started to get me to seriously think about my lenses. I know that the 75APO get's me the closest to the action as possible, since it's [email protected], though a 50mm can be cropped enough if needed. The only problem I have is with the wides, I'd obviously need something in the 21-28mm range. But I would only use it, when I was damn sure I couldn't walk backwards, since I feel that's easier sometimes then digging into my bag, and switching to my 28cron. For a while I used 21ZE and 50MPZE on all my walks/travels/free-time, unless I needed a candid lens, then I had the 100MPZE (which rarely came with me), and I thought it was an effective setup.
I'm actually curious what you guys think about owning the two mentioned 50mm lenses, over owning multiple lenses close [35/75] in focal length? Money aside of course, but by all means do some math if you want to illustrate point. ...Show more →
Other than the cost (for me), I think it's logical to have both 50mm lenses in question in order to harness the strengths/characteristics of each. It's why I use and will carry both the 21 Lux and SEM during the same job/event/outing.
I still want to try the 50AA for myself, but my theory at the moment is at the 50mm focal length it would be the equivalent to the 21 SEM for my needs - technical perfection and an all around go-to lens that can be used for pretty much anything. But instead of pairing such a lens with a Nocti, I have explored various vintage 50mm options to find variations of character that appeals to me while my Lux ASPH stands in for the 50AA. That said, I still do most of my 50mm images with the Lux ASPH. The Nocti makes sense for the extra two stops over the AA and its creamier wide open look... how important that is, will depend on how you like to shoot.
I can appreciate how flexible a given focal length can be by just moving your feet a bit. But sometimes you can't, and will then be frustrated. Or you can't get the subject/background juxtaposition you want. At least for me, I really do feel 'naked' going someplace with only one lens. Even if I only shoot with just one lens, as I did for most of the recent photos I posted, it's reassuring to have my regular kit (21/28/50/90) with me.
This is such a subjective thing and I know a lot of guys really like the minimalist approach. The closest for me has been keeping a reasonable gap between focal lengths. For this reason I have a difficult time reacquainting myself with 35mm and 75mm.
My 2¢.
charles.K wrote:
It would be an interesting poll to take, as to what lenses people settle with after having the M series for about 6 to 12 months. Initially we want all the lenses, but I found I have settled on a few favorites that suit me now. These are the 24 Lux, 50 Nocti f1.0/50 Lux and 75 Lux. On the M-M, the lenses behave differently, and I am liking the 28 Cron/35 Lux more now. The 75 Cron AA on the M-M is also very good, but plain on the M9P.
I agree, but for me 6-12 months wasn't enough time to settle into a system. Part of the problem might be the sheer amount of potentially interesting glass available. Related to this, I think I agree with Joe's theory about keeping modern and vintage sets, as well as sets that work best with specific cameras. Because I only have the M9, I'm not concerned about the latter, but definitely am working towards functional modern & vintage sets. 2.5 years later and I'm now pretty content with at least my modern collection, though my overall kit is definitely not minimalist. But what I take with me typically is 'only' four lenses. 
Edward - interesting about banding. Just reaffirms for me that I should see about testing a second M9.
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