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Carsten..."bubble bokeh"...what is that?? My E55 Lux is very sharp wide open, and stopped down is really incredible. It's very close to the FE 55 1.8( well maybe not the corners!)...the bokeh can be a touch harsh at times, but with only 6 blades, I think it does a fantastic job! At f2 it has superb 3D and is, IMO, sharper than the Cron. I have no experience with M versions, but I do have a newer R Cron coming this week, and I can compare. Picked up the Cron on a whim, thinking to step down, but we'll see. My E55 is from '86, and I consider it my fav 50 lens of all time. I have made so many great shots with it, I couldn't imagine ever selling it!
My CV 50 ASPH might be a tad sharper in the center, and the bokeh is def smoother, but stopped down, the Lux is sharper. It could be used as a landscape lens, but the Cron might be better for that particular application.
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Jul 27, 2014 at 04:03 PM
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p.319 #2 · p.319 #2 · Leica R Series Lenses


Yes, M adapter is small, and yes, Olympus lenses are small, and yes Contax G.... and no, I don't want to have more than 2 mounts. Like a barrier to my own gear lust. I now have 2 standard kits, rather than more than 50% of my lenses at home at any time.

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Jul 27, 2014 at 04:28 PM
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carstenw wrote:
Unless you are a fan of bubble boke (in which case the 50 Lux E55), I think to get a better 50 than the Cron, you need to go to the 50 Lux E60, which is very expensive, and highly corrected, nearly the equal of the 50 Lux-M ASPH, but stopped down a bit I doubt you gain the benefit of the extra size and price (although the Lux should be sharper than the Cron even stopped down to f/4 or so), so ultimately I would go for the 50 Cron or 60 Macro-Elmarit in your case. The latter is
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the other advantage of the lux e60 is that it has 8 aperture blades instead of the 6 blades on the cron and e55 lux. i don't know about the rest of you, but hexagons really bug me. not sure that makes it worth an extra $2k though...




Jul 27, 2014 at 04:33 PM
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p.319 #4 · p.319 #4 · Leica R Series Lenses


Bought back my former Leica R28/E55 for $500 today and was going to air it out a little but then the record heat streak ended abruptly:

Regndroppar by koruNZ, on Flickr

Flimsy adaper on A7, wide open, slight crop.

The R28 works just fine on the A7, as expected. Leitax R to FE mount on order for this lens and one for the R 80-200/4 lens.

Bokeh of the R28 wide open:
R28 by koruNZ, on Flickr



Jul 27, 2014 at 05:20 PM
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Greggf wrote:
Carsten..."bubble bokeh"...what is that??
Gregg








http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/789565/0&year=2009#8544433







http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/895186/243#11908262



Jul 27, 2014 at 05:54 PM
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p.319 #6 · p.319 #6 · Leica R Series Lenses


Lux E60, WO, SOOC (except tweaking WB due to fluorescent lighting)

CMN_7318



Jul 27, 2014 at 07:45 PM
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carstenw wrote:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4671235996_45c142d292_b.jpg

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/789565/0&year=2009#8544433

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4913/49690153.3b/0_aa733_c4e9fcb2_orig.jpg

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/895186/243#11908262


that's swirly bokeh. when people say bubble bokeh i thing of bokeh balls with rings. what you're showing is just cats eye and swirl (which is what i think of for the e55 lux).

edit: i think of the image in this link has having slightly bubbly bokeh: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/895186/97#10582250




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Jul 27, 2014 at 08:32 PM
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philber wrote:
Guys, advice please. I have now a triplet of R lenses: 28 Elmarit, 60 Makro Elmarit, 80 'Lux. I ma looking for a 50, as an all-purpose lens (do-anything, take-anywhere). I have tried a 'Cron, and like it. Any sense in going for a 'Lux? I don't shoot wide open that much at all, neither do I do portraits.
So, what will it be?


I own both and there is no comparison between the 50/55 and the 50/60. They only share the same focal lenght and that's it.

The 50/60 is way beyond the 50/55 in all considerations including color rendition - contrast and IQ.

It is like comparing the Elmarit 180 and the APO Elmarit 180 or the Cron 90 and the AA 90. There is no comparison!

As for the usual internet comments, If they they really had a 50/60, they will not let it go and saved us from armchair comparisons between the 50/55 and the 50/60.

Whether you are ready to pay such price for the 50/60 is another matter.

The 50/55 is a perfect all rounder.



Jul 27, 2014 at 08:57 PM
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The 50/55 is a perfect all rounder.
Couldn't agree more. Still my fav 50, and I've been through many!
Gregg



Jul 27, 2014 at 09:54 PM
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Summicron 35mm
1972 DeTomaso-11 by Anh Tri, on Flickr

1972 DeTomaso-13 by Anh Tri, on Flickr

1972 DeTomaso-6 by Anh Tri, on Flickr



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sebboh wrote:
that's swirly bokeh. when people say bubble bokeh i thing of bokeh balls with rings. what you're showing is just cats eye and swirl (which is what i think of for the e55 lux).

edit: i think of the image in this link has having slightly bubbly bokeh: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/895186/97#10582250


You are probably right for the images I posted, although I do think that the second shot shows some bubbliness, in a half-circle kind of way. I do have a tendency to call even slightly over-corrected spherical aberration (I believe that is what causes it?) lens boke bubbly.



Jul 27, 2014 at 10:16 PM
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carstenw wrote:
You are probably right for the images I posted, although I do think that the second shot shows some bubbliness, in a half-circle kind of way. I do have a tendency to call even slightly over-corrected spherical aberration (I believe that is what causes it?) lens boke bubbly.


for background bokeh over-correction causes it, for foreground bokeh under-correction will cause it.




Jul 27, 2014 at 10:24 PM
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p.319 #13 · p.319 #13 · Leica R Series Lenses


Thanks for your advice, people. The 'Cron 50/55 it is then. Will report soon!


Jul 28, 2014 at 05:42 AM
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Undercorrected SA lens will have more nervous foreground bokeh and smoother background bokeh.
Overcorrected SA lens will have smoother foreground bokeh and more nervous background bokeh.
Rokkor 58/1.2 is undercorrected SA.
for background bokeh over-correction causes it, for foreground bokeh under-correction will cause it.





Jul 28, 2014 at 07:50 AM
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Cross-post from the Walter Mandler thread:

Slowly, I start to understand how to use the Summilux-R 1.4/80mm. I really like how it renders, so it does it's job very well. Whenever something doesn't look good enough, I blame the user (aka me).










Jul 28, 2014 at 08:43 AM
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p.319 #16 · p.319 #16 · Leica R Series Lenses


FYI, Mifsuds in the UK have a 50mm summilux-R E55 for 499 (boxed).

Seems like a great price, I've dealt with Mifsuds before and highly recommend them.



Jul 30, 2014 at 10:30 AM
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They also have some Contax AE lenses for amazing prices, in case someone is interested for an A7 or similar.


Jul 30, 2014 at 10:39 AM
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p.319 #18 · p.319 #18 · Leica R Series Lenses


Here are some images cross posted in the Sony A7/A7r/A7s Image thread taken late yesterday afternoon and at or near the top of the Trexler Nature Preserve, Schnecksville, PA with my Leica R 280mm f4 Apo Telyt lens and my Sony A7r camera. The first image was with the lens monopod mounted while the remaining images were taken with the lens tripod mounted. All images processed in LR5.5.

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Jul 30, 2014 at 01:38 PM
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johnahill wrote:
FYI, Mifsuds in the UK have a 50mm summilux-R E55 for 499 (boxed).

Seems like a great price, I've dealt with Mifsuds before and highly recommend them.


Not 'arf cheap too! Good find. I'd never buy brand new again. Think the FE 55 will have been my last ever purchase of a new lens.




Jul 30, 2014 at 01:48 PM
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will the 50 summilux e55 work on 5D2? (does it clear the 5d2 mirror i mean)


Jul 30, 2014 at 02:58 PM
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