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Worldinlens wrote:
Jack, a smallest offtop special for you
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_page1.html


Alex, you just made my day! Thank you.

The day A7r was announced I went to a Sony store, paid 20% deposit and ensured I was first on a list when the cameras arrive at Sony stores in last week of November. Now I can barely wait to get it.





Oct 23, 2013 at 04:23 PM
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If you want video, that seems to rule out the upcoming new FM3 digital from Nikon. You didn't say what your budget it.

I've used Nikon D800e and Canon 5d3 & 6D with Leica and Zeiss MF lenses. I prefer the MF experience on Nikon. However, alt lenses are more easily adaptable on the canon with adapters. . I briefly tried out the A99 and was quite impressed with the ergonomics, build and the EVF.

There are some sample images from the a7* floating around. Given what we've seen from the sony sensors, i think its safe to assume the
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Manu, I forget about Video But now rumor seems keep changing. it might have.
As for D800E, the reason I didn't recommend it is because of it is too much for manual focus to do everyday family type of shooting, especially for first time into MF thing.

For 21-35, the best bet will be A99 EVF, I feel that lens is useless for everyday handholding shooting, OVF will be dark, but i do enjoy its output by tripod and LV. It can focus down to 22mm after remove plastic tube. but with LV, you can reach 21mm as well. 80-200mm is also a poor choice due to its poor designed focus ring with very short throw. I can only focus reliably at 200mm end, 80mm at f4 is very hard to focus if not shooting short distance. My copy with Canon adaptor has focus breath. It could be adaptor is out of spec, I haven't try to Leitax it to Nikon yet.

A7r? not sure it is a heaven for R. too small. it will be a good match to 21-35 though, one of smallest WA FF zoom with less than 10 element design.

Ales, thanks for your nice comments
Douglas, wonderful portrait, color is indeed great.


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Oct 23, 2013 at 04:33 PM
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Worldinlens wrote:
Jack, a smallest offtop special for you
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_page1.html

That 35 EF is sick, actually both 35 and 55 are sick. I keep count money in my wallet with new sony EF lens....and turn around try to not thinking about them

24-70 is the one very piratical. Hopefully it is as good.



Oct 23, 2013 at 04:38 PM
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zhangyue wrote:
Manu, I forget about Video But now rumor seems keep changing. it might have.
As for D800E, the reason I didn't recommend it is because of it is too much for manual focus to do everyday family type of shooting, especially for first time into MF thing.

For 21-35, the best bet will be A99 EVF, I feel that lens is useless for everyday handholding shooting, OVF will be dark, but i do enjoy its output by tripod and LV. It can focus down to 22mm after remove plastic tube. 80-200mm is also a poor choice due to its
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Michael,

I have had very good luck focusing my Leica R 80-200mm f4 Vario Elmar on my Fujifilm X-E1. I have been using the lens tripod mounted win the Novoflex rotating collar and the Novoflex adapter. I expect the same results with the A7r and I do not feel that the camera is too small for the lens.

I am posting a number of different images shot with the 80-200mm Vario Elmar with the Fujifilm X-E1 at various distances.

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Oct 23, 2013 at 04:48 PM
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zhangyue wrote:
That 35 EF is sick, actually both 35 and 55 are sick. I keep count money in my wallet with new sony EF lens....and turn around try to not thinking about them

24-70 is the one very piratical. Hopefully it is as good.


I dont think about native lenses too, maybe in far far future. We have our R-gears guys, what need else? ))

My first mind about a7/r maybe it have nice deep colors, second better resolution than mine 700



Oct 23, 2013 at 05:01 PM
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Rich, for the stuff you do, landscape tripod and LV, I agree A7r could be your heaven It is your R digital back.
but with 35/80 lux and A7r hang around on neck chasing kids is definitely funny business.

Alex, I know what you are talking about, but their native lens are so great (Leica level great with Canikon+ price level) and SMAAALLLLL! if 24-70 perform, it will be my dream travel lens.



Oct 23, 2013 at 05:10 PM
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zhangyue wrote:
Alex, I know what you are talking about, but their native lens are so great (Leica level great with Canikon+ price level) and SMAAALLLLL! if 24-70 perform, it will be my dream travel lens.


Do not argue, Michael! Both primes are brilliant by optics



Oct 23, 2013 at 05:45 PM
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shute wrote:
Hi guys,

A topic of 239 pages are not a short one. I've read and enjoyed it for the past couple of weeks. I've seen many great works and brilliant thoughts here. Thanks guys for sharing.

I have a question about body, body for R lenses.

I'm now using a 50/2 and a 21-35 is on the way (exciting). I'm planning to get a 80-200/4 and if budget allows, may be a 80/1.4 as well.

You can tell I'm setting up my lens combination to R lens only. Holpfully these lens can cover most of my need.
I shoot lots of architecture, some landscape, and
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Been away from this forum for a while (honeymoon along the Cali coast - some nice pics to come)...

I originally really wanted to mount my lenses on the Sony E-mount because there was no chance the mirror would hit the back of the lenses and the adapters are plentiful. However, the lack of a mirror box makes R lenses on these mounts a little too long for my taste. With a telephoto, it becomes horribly unbalanced. However, with the 6D, since it has a huge grip, the balance is pretty much perfect. Also, leitaxing the lenses was simple, and didn't require as much modification as Nikon leitaxing. Battery life on the A7 is likely about 1/3 of the 6D. Manual focus with an optical viewfinder is an amazing experience. Can't comment on the 5DIII, D610 or D800, but they are all great as you can see by the samples on this blog. Actually, a used D700 would likely make a great body. Hope to see your pics on here soon!

Can't commend on video, as I'm no expert. The A7/A7r look to be more seriously into video, but without the AA filter on the A7r, I'm not sure how that would affect moire.



Oct 24, 2013 at 02:17 AM
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Thanks a lot for your advice guys.

Zhangyue,

Maybe I shouldn't ask everything from one body, but Nikon, even Canon seems don't put too much on video.

I think lens last much longer than bodies. So I may reasonably go for a system that require less conversion to the lens. Yet, I will wait and see what the new FM2 would be.

For 80-200, have you used that to shot kids? I may mainly use it for architectural and landscape, together with 21-35.

I think I need something like 35-70/2.8 for video recording, but the R version is too expensive. For a while I was thinking to get a Panasonic 12-35/2.8 to use with my GF1, and don't do too much video with the R lenses. But that is not idea as well, 12-35/2.8 is equivalent to 24-70/5.6 in terms of DOF, and GF1 only support 720p video.

Look at my photos, the best are still taken with R lens.
Look at my videos, the best are still taken with R lens.

MF are good for videos, on the one hand it gives full control. On the other hand, without a large monitor, it's quite hard when w/o.

Have you ever taken any video with your R lens?


Picture This

My budget is around AU$2500.
And I think I can wait for another month or two. By then, hopefully detailed review and sample photos will be around for a7*.


Worldinlens

Thanks for letting me know. That's part of the reason I went for 6D initially.

Impressive for the photo in your link. a7r +1
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_page1.html


JaKo

Thanks. I will keep a close eye on a7r. Sony has made special treatment to the area close to the edge of the sensor, right?


Naturephoto1
Nice work! Have you ever use 80-200 hand held?


Roni1948

Thanks for sharing your experience. I used to shot with a R6, and really enjoyed its bright optical viewfinder. When I start to use GF1 I can never focus easily or just in time.

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Impressed by some sample image of a7r, I think my next research should be: whether it provide any focusing assistant that is reliable, and when recording video. When the kid runs away, I need to refocus without breaking the recording, and it's really hard to be done on a 3 inch screen without reliable continuous assistance.



Oct 24, 2013 at 03:40 PM
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shute the a7r has continuous focus peaking available during video, and of course an evf, which is very helpful.

canon's actually have better video implementation (peaking, zebras, higher throughput) once you get magic lantern (except that canons don't have evfs of course).

the new nikon sounds very interesting, i'm excited to see what it actually is. the primary difficulty with nikon (and canon to a lessor extent) is that many of the R lenses will interfere with the mirror movements unless you modify portions of the lens, camera mirror, or both. not sure if this is an issue for any of the lenses you're interested in though (you should double check).




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sebboh wrote:
shute the a7r has continuous focus peaking available during video, and of course an evf, which is very helpful.

canon's actually have better video implementation (peaking, zebras, higher throughput) once you get magic lantern (except that canons don't have evfs of course).

the new nikon sounds very interesting, i'm excited to see what it actually is. the primary difficulty with nikon (and canon to a lessor extent) is that many of the R lenses will interfere with the mirror movements unless you modify portions of the lens, camera mirror, or both. not sure if this is an issue for any of
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I thought any lens have mirror clearance problem with Nikon, will apply to Canon as well, maybe only Sony is good at that.

Shute, sorry, I totally forget Video. I still recommend Nikon over others. but A7R will be a hard one to resist. I pre-order one, but not sure how I wan use it with my Leica R yet.
As for 80-200, the performace is very good, especially before 150mm, but if I can choose, I will get 135 zeiss or 100 APO instead of 80-200. You gain two stop speed and DOF and can crop to get the FOV with sensor have so many pixel now.....



Oct 24, 2013 at 05:02 PM
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Michael, I can't recommend the 100 APO highly enough. One of the very best lenses I've used for portraits, close up/macro although its not 1:1 and intimate landscapes. It has such color fidelity and incredible detail.


Oct 24, 2013 at 05:26 PM
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zhangyue wrote:
I thought any lens have mirror clearance problem with Nikon, will apply to Canon as well, maybe only Sony is good at that.


my memory is that nikon has some throat issues (possibly due to electrical contacts?) as well as mirror issues with some R lenses. maybe i'm misremembering though.

only sony does a good job with mirror clearance. even their FF dslrs (a900/a850) have no trouble with mirror collisions.




Oct 24, 2013 at 05:47 PM
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w/ Elmarit R 60 macro




Oct 24, 2013 at 07:08 PM
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shute wrote:
Thanks a lot for your advice guys.

Zhangyue,

Maybe I shouldn't ask everything from one body, but Nikon, even Canon seems don't put too much on video.

I think lens last much longer than bodies. So I may reasonably go for a system that require less conversion to the lens. Yet, I will wait and see what the new FM2 would be.

For 80-200, have you used that to shot kids? I may mainly use it for architectural and landscape, together with 21-35.

I think I need something like 35-70/2.8 for video recording, but the R version is too expensive. For a while
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As I know for this moment there is only few "low-cost" devices for high-quality video capture

Panasonic GH2 - the old king, alternative firmware, almost any lenses

BlackMagic camera - of course uncompressed output, almost any lenses
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagiccinemacamera

Canon 5D3 - the new (full frame) king, alternative firmware, uncompressed output, many lenses

Regarding new sony product line here
http://www.eoshd.com/content/11380/new-sony-a7-a7r-rx10-exclusive-hands-look-video-quality
Want video? RX10



Oct 24, 2013 at 07:41 PM
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Picture This! wrote:
Michael, I can't recommend the 100 APO highly enough. One of the very best lenses I've used for portraits, close up/macro although its not 1:1 and intimate landscapes. It has such color fidelity and incredible detail.


Do not forget about the V125 from other side. This unprecedented lens will be relevant as long as it falls apart into atoms from the age of



Oct 24, 2013 at 09:09 PM
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Picture This! wrote:
Michael, I can't recommend the 100 APO highly enough. One of the very best lenses I've used for portraits, close up/macro although its not 1:1 and intimate landscapes. It has such color fidelity and incredible detail.



I love my 100 APO. it is indeed a great portrait lens too, a little heavy but at least the weight is evenly distributed. It is a great all-around les, from 1:1 (with adapter) to landscape/infinity.

Jim



Oct 25, 2013 at 12:39 AM
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Fog rolling out.... --->














Oct 25, 2013 at 03:11 AM
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Worldinlens wrote:
Do not forget about the V125 from other side. This unprecedented lens will be relevant as long as it falls apart into atoms from the age of


Not to mention Zeiss Makro-Planar 2/100



Oct 25, 2013 at 03:15 AM
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Fog rolling out.... --->


very nice! like the toning too.




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