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p.222 #1 · p.222 #1 · Leica R Series Lenses


Thanks Ronny.

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Oct 08, 2013 at 12:15 PM
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p.222 #2 · p.222 #2 · Leica R Series Lenses


Finally gave in and got the summilux R 80. Should be arriving in a week or so. Can't wait.


Oct 08, 2013 at 12:37 PM
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With Summicron 50mm F2.0







Oct 09, 2013 at 08:15 AM
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Picture This! wrote:
Finally gave in and got the summilux R 80. Should be arriving in a week or so. Can't wait.


He he he, and another love affair in the making

Congrats.



Oct 09, 2013 at 09:48 AM
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Picture This! wrote:
Finally gave in and got the summilux R 80. Should be arriving in a week or so. Can't wait.


I love mine but be sure to learn your lens as it does have faults.

Good luck.



Oct 09, 2013 at 01:45 PM
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thanks, could you elaborate on the faults of the 80R based on your experience with it.




Oct 09, 2013 at 03:42 PM
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p.222 #7 · p.222 #7 · Leica R Series Lenses


Manu, the only fault of Lux-R 80 i$ going to be forgotten by the next payday
Congrats on your new glass!


Lee Big Stopper + .9ND stack








Oct 09, 2013 at 05:39 PM
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p.222 #8 · p.222 #8 · Leica R Series Lenses


Jack, great image!


Oct 09, 2013 at 08:30 PM
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Thank you Michael.
It's very interesting location in West Vancouver; however, shooting at noon was waaay to bright even with 11 stops ND filters stack. Will have to revisit it this fall on a partially cloudy evening.



Oct 09, 2013 at 10:24 PM
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p.222 #10 · p.222 #10 · Leica R Series Lenses


Picture This! wrote:
thanks, could you elaborate on the faults of the 80R based on your experience with it.



Here is my finding:
Not or not as sharp as other 85mm at f1.4 at f1.4. (ZF and Nikkor1.4 AIS, 1.4G, 1.8G come into my mind) Resolution wise, might be close, but perceptually, not contrast enough...
Flare or low contrast shooting backlight. Mine is 35xxx, later model might be better, not sure. Part of it comes from its inadequate shade design. This is a issue for landscape use...
Stop down performance could be better especially at corner.
I find it is also has more bokeh CA than my 50lux V1 and 35lux R.
For portrait, none of them are really matted for me. So I love mine.

I will skip the merit of it

a portrait with 80lux at f2.8 or f4.








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p.222 #11 · p.222 #11 · Leica R Series Lenses


^^^ I would also add that sharpness/overall performance increases at mid (say farther than 3-4 meters) distance and farther.




VSCO film emulation














Oct 10, 2013 at 12:14 AM
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p.222 #12 · p.222 #12 · Leica R Series Lenses


Picture This! wrote:
thanks, could you elaborate on the faults of the 80R based on your experience with it.



The things that are a deal breaker to one person may be the very same reason another person may love a lens. It all comes down to how/what you shoot and what you want.

Against:
1/ Focus shift, ie focus at F1.4 then stop down to F2.8 and focus will have changed.
2/ WO resolution at close range is not nearly as good as it is at distance. It's NOT a macro lens, I've tried.
3/ SA glow wide open and more noticeable at close range. It's not a fault if you like it, which I do, and I try to exploit it whenever I can.
4/ Some purple fringing WO in extreme contrast, but mostly gone at F2. This I hate and is the main reason I tend to shoot at F2, but I shoot shiny chrome cars, not people, so I see this all the time.
5/ the slight WO softness can make it harder to focus WO with an optical viewfinder, no problem with Live View or similar. I tend to shoot at F2 with an optical viewfinder because the image is much 'sharper' and easier to nail focus.

Focus shift:






F2, black car, chrome, makes for a decent purple fringing test





100%, I think the focus point was on the top of the indicator lens, IIRC.






F1.4 Flare. This is about as bad as it gets aside from shooting into the sun.











F5.6, lots of flash reflections chrome and no flare issues.






I wouldn't say this lens flares any more than most lenses, except maybe Zeiss or the latest CaNikon which typically have the best coatings, IMHO. I've shot this lens for 20 years in very high contrast conditions, at night with lighting in the frame, and have never had a problem. Yes it will flare, eventually, but not so much as to consider it an issue of note.

For:
1/ negligible vignetting from about F2.8
2/ very high resolution WO at distance, but low contrast so not apparently or bitingly sharp.
3/ very high level of sharpness and resolution when stopped down at any distance.
4/ generally very soft bokeh.

Vignetting:






F1.4 bokeh at close range
















probably F2






This lens is not perfect, but I like it a lot.



Oct 10, 2013 at 01:40 AM
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p.222 #13 · p.222 #13 · Leica R Series Lenses


Thanks for review, John

Michael, dont worry about yours 35..... It's latest Also have opinion - 80 not for landscapes with extreme light condition.

Regarding different versions:

Latest Leica have a bit different colours, more cold
Better contrast a bit
Better WO resolution at infinity
More purple CA at WO! (Was tested 3 latest lenses with time)

So for portraits and bokeh I know few peoples who bought early versions and never dreamed about latest.



Oct 10, 2013 at 05:25 AM
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p.222 #14 · p.222 #14 · Leica R Series Lenses


Michael, John, Jack and Worldinlens - you guys are very helpful. Thank you. The lens I purchased is a 32xxxx serial.

John, thx for the inputs and the real world test shots showing purple fringing, flare... very helpful.

I was planning on using this lens for portraits (love the bokeh i've seen from it and i actually like the WO glow which can be used as an advantage). Was also planning on using this lens for intimate landscapes and that means extreme lighting conditions. The lack of contrast is a bit concerning as well.

Fortunately I bought it from a place with a 30 day return policy. I'll have to leitax it to use it on nikon though, once I do that I cannot in good conscience revert the mount back for a return if I change my mind. Decisions !



Oct 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM
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p.222 #15 · p.222 #15 · Leica R Series Lenses


Awesome shot Jack ,Michael and Z


Oct 10, 2013 at 11:38 AM
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p.222 #16 · p.222 #16 · Leica R Series Lenses


50 Cron :









Oct 10, 2013 at 11:58 AM
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A photo show the problem I am talking about back lighting. No light source in the frame, and I see this often enough to know it is a concern. 1.4G doesn't have this problem. I don't remember ZF is this bad as well. Use hand to cover or slightly change shooting angle will 'help', but one hand shooting 80lux is not easy. With better hood design, it will be better. 'Help' means problem is there just not as obvious to see, but for high quality Landscape shot, I will concern this for sure.

However, The lens paint once use it for what is for

A couple shots from first week I got it early this year. I do have lots of family pics I love from this lens, but not want overload this thread

























Oct 10, 2013 at 12:05 PM
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p.222 #18 · p.222 #18 · Leica R Series Lenses


^^^ damn, your kids are growing fast, Michael.
I like the first shot - very cute, and you saved some $$$ on VSCO software right there
BTW, isn't the spoon supposed to be on his nose?



Oct 10, 2013 at 07:05 PM
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p.222 #19 · p.222 #19 · Leica R Series Lenses


I can imagine it could harm some serious shot, but this one looks pretty good as it is. Im not entirely sure, but it might be possible to PP it? Never had this issue so I dont know..


Oct 10, 2013 at 07:16 PM
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p.222 #20 · p.222 #20 · Leica R Series Lenses


Michael thx for posting these lovely shots. Honestly, the first shot doesn't look bad at all. Absolutely love the second shot. Dreamy bokeh with great colors.

Jack on the VSCO comment.



Oct 10, 2013 at 08:16 PM
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