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Krosavcheg wrote:
Zhang: You are much too kind. Perhaps on occasion I am overly critical, but often I notice that in the chase of better lens I fail to spot the fine nuance in its character which is ever so characteristic.
Therefore it is a question is the 80/1.4 or 90/2 character really can improve past Samyang 85/1.4? And if it's obvious, is it really worth the money?
It's too easy to go overboard on lens purchases, isn't it?!


do you have the samyang and if so are you unhappy with it at all?

i would just get the $250 lens and see if it's up your standards before spending $2k. i'm reasonably sure the samyang is sharper and less glowy than the R 80/1.4 wide open too. definitely different looks though.




Aug 10, 2013 at 01:14 AM
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sebboh wrote:
.... i'm reasonably sure the samyang is sharper and less glowy than the R 80/1.4 wide open too. ...


At distance or close range or both? The R 80 is very sharp wide open at distance and around the centre, but not so hot at MFD.



Aug 10, 2013 at 01:36 AM
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At distance or close range or both? The R 80 is very sharp wide open at distance and around the centre, but not so hot at MFD.


I was thinking 1-3 meters. I'd be surprised if the leica was actually sharper at infinity wide open, but not surprised about that stopped down.



Aug 10, 2013 at 02:50 AM
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sebboh wrote:
do you have the samyang and if so are you unhappy with it at all?

i would just get the $250 lens and see if it's up your standards before spending $2k. i'm reasonably sure the samyang is sharper and less glowy than the R 80/1.4 wide open too. definitely different looks though.



I am using Samyang. Not unhappy with it at all. Just wondering if character differences are noticeable.
Sam is actually a bit glowy around 1.4 in harsh light plus it does fringe in OOF.



Aug 10, 2013 at 09:49 AM
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p.216 #5 · Leica R Series Lenses


Surely some one has both the Samyang and R80 and can compare (properly). Speculation is not worth a pinch of shit, IMHO.


Aug 10, 2013 at 12:52 PM
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p.216 #6 · Leica R Series Lenses


Krosavcheg wrote:
I certainly don't have any complaints about 100APO.
Only wondering if I am using it right. Perhaps my expectation is just too high plus I am a bit too rough on PP.
I saw a 60 Macro here for around $300. Would like to try it as well.


The R60/2.8 macro is one of my favorite lenses, definitely one of my favorite Alt lenses. That's a great price if the lens is in decent condition.



Aug 10, 2013 at 01:43 PM
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Leica r apo 100 + elpro 1:1




Aug 10, 2013 at 02:20 PM
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p.216 #8 · Leica R Series Lenses


Xenon: That's one sick shot!! Fantastic!!!


Aug 10, 2013 at 03:40 PM
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JohnJ wrote:
Surely some one has both the Samyang and R80 and can compare (properly). Speculation is not worth a pinch of shit, IMHO.


That would be great.
Would really like to see colour and contrast of both compared side by side..



Aug 10, 2013 at 03:41 PM
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JohnJ wrote:
Surely some one has both the Samyang and R80 and can compare (properly). Speculation is not worth a pinch of shit, IMHO.


There was a short comparison few years ago here, but unfortunately the pictures are gone .
From the samples shown, they were very similar with the Samyang showing focus shift stopped down and therefore seemingly not so sharp as the R80. The pics were about mfd.



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mirkoc wrote:
There was a short comparison few years ago here, but unfortunately the pictures are gone .
From the samples shown, they were very similar with the Samyang showing focus shift stopped down and therefore seemingly not so sharp as the R80. The pics were about mfd.


yeah, I saw 3 direct comparisons including that one. that's what my comments were based on. i only have samyang. the samyang doesn't have much character, just pretty uniformly smooth with some loCA.



Aug 10, 2013 at 06:26 PM
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p.216 #12 · Leica R Series Lenses


My copy of Samyang has lower contrast at 1.4. If it had a brand name on it and was 35+ year old it would be concidered a legend and fetch $1000+ prices depending on availability.



Aug 10, 2013 at 07:30 PM
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mirkoc wrote:
My copy of Samyang has lower contrast at 1.4. If it had a brand name on it and was 35+ year old it would be concidered a legend and fetch $1000+ prices depending on availability.


It probably wouldn't be available even..
I chose it over CY 85/1.4 anyway (both price about the same here) and over haemorrhoids with 85/1.2 S.S.C, but I am ever so interested in those 2 Leicas for some reason...



Aug 10, 2013 at 07:42 PM
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Krosavcheg wrote:
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I chose it over CY 85/1.4 anyway (both price about the same here) and over haemorrhoids with 85/1.2 S.S.C, but I am ever so interested in those 2 Leicas for some reason...


Odd. I also chose the R 80 over the CY 85/1.4 and 85/1.2 S.S.C Asph. But that was way back in the film days.



Aug 10, 2013 at 10:11 PM
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p.216 #15 · Leica R Series Lenses


Elmarit 28/2.8 v2 + D800e




Aug 11, 2013 at 02:22 AM
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p.216 #16 · Leica R Series Lenses


Picture This! Elmarit 28/2.8 v2 + D800e
Wow, expecting few good shots Manu



Aug 11, 2013 at 04:22 AM
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p.216 #17 · Leica R Series Lenses


JohnJ wrote:
Odd. I also chose the R 80 over the CY 85/1.4 and 85/1.2 S.S.C Asph. But that was way back in the film days.


I was going for 85/1.2 S.S.C or L (FD) but not quite as good as converting myself and Ed Mika's kit wasn't available yet. Then I simply went with the Samyang thread....
CY85/1.4 was a questionable thing. Samuli's shots are superb, but so is his skill. Quite a few others noted that they disliked CY85 OOF rendition (or it was my understanding of it). So it pretty much left Samyang, especially since 80/1.4 was nowhere to be found at that time..



Aug 11, 2013 at 04:48 AM
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p.216 #18 · Leica R Series Lenses


Leica R apo 100 + Elpro 1:1










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28/2.8 v2 @ F8






  Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III    55mm    f/1.4    1/100s    50 ISO    0.0 EV  




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R100 APO, 5D2









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