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naturephoto1 wrote:
The third posting is of the "new" f4 80-200mm Vario Elmar lens and the f4 280mm Apo Telyt lens.

Rich


Crazy collection!!! A many photo-leica-maniacs will be detect on FM after that ))

For me really interesting R80-200/4 as travel zoom. I had a year-two ago a very beautiful, cheap and unfamous Nikkor E 75-150/3.5, maybe this leica a much better?



Dec 14, 2012 at 01:33 AM
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Summilux R 35 ...
















Dec 14, 2012 at 08:30 PM
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OK! now back to Picture.

50cron R WO with D700.








Dec 14, 2012 at 09:37 PM
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p.129 #4 · p.129 #4 · Leica R Series Lenses


Nice portrait! Its E55 or older version of 50cron?


Dec 14, 2012 at 10:08 PM
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p.129 #5 · p.129 #5 · Leica R Series Lenses


Latest one! 36xxxxx! I bought my first one E55 here, but it has defective focus ring. (still undergone claim process.) Luckily, I visit my local Leica store, and they have one trade in just two days before I bought it. It is in mint condition with everything. I know I might not need it but I never worry to have too many 50mm lens.

At the beginning of this thread. Thomas (madamaus) have many outstanding portraits with this lens make me want try it anyway. You may want take a look. He shoot most at f2.8 I believe.



Dec 14, 2012 at 10:15 PM
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Michael, beautiful photo of your daughter with you E55 Summicron-R 50mm. I believe this lens has the same, if not identical, optical formula of the Summicron-M 50mm (pre APO). As you're looking for other R lenses, the latest Elmarit-R 90, is also an excellent performer and can be had very 'cheaply', which also share the same optical formula with the Elmarit-M but with 1/3 of the M price.


Dec 15, 2012 at 01:27 AM
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Worldinlens wrote:
A small comparison between R50/1.4E55 and R50/1.4E60

You can by yourself to download the archive with two RAW files and draw conclusions

http://webfile.ru/6262148


It would be nice you can show web size picture and given some conclusion here. I am lazy to see 100% raw by myself and trust your eyes



Dec 15, 2012 at 07:29 AM
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ocean2059 wrote:
Michael, beautiful photo of your daughter with you E55 Summicron-R 50mm. I believe this lens has the same, if not identical, optical formula of the Summicron-M 50mm (pre APO). As you're looking for other R lenses, the latest Elmarit-R 90, is also an excellent performer and can be had very 'cheaply', which also share the same optical formula with the Elmarit-M but with 1/3 of the M price.


ocean2059 wrote:
Michael, beautiful photo of your daughter with you E55 Summicron-R 50mm. I believe this lens has the same, if not identical, optical formula of the Summicron-M 50mm (pre APO). As you're looking for other R lenses, the latest Elmarit-R 90, is also an excellent performer and can be had very 'cheaply', which also share the same optical formula with the Elmarit-M but with 1/3 of the M price.


Hi, Ocean, Thanks for comments!

I haven't used this cron much, only get it two weeks ago. It is not as sharp and POP as MP50 I had for sure. But I like the result combine with D700, and I like Leica R for portrait somehow. It render very nicely I can't put something on word. Hopefully, pictures tell it.

I feel its mid distance Bokeh just average like most 50mm I have/had. I need shoot more with it to tell. But it is small with the same high build quality like other Leica lens. I have not be able to even do a stop down test for it which I usually do. From MTF, I know it will be close to 50lux E60, and better than my E48. This two 50mm lens might bury with me

I will not buy another f2.8 lens for what I do unless It is super long or wide or APO . I have 90 f2.8 M, It is very nice but didn't use it much due to its focal length. F2 with D700 or later better sensor seems a sweet point to me.

50lux E48 WO






35cron not sure aperture










Dec 15, 2012 at 07:29 AM
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zhangyue wrote:
It would be nice you can show web size picture and given some conclusion here. I am lazy to see 100% raw by myself and trust your eyes


At the end of the day, they are all very good lenses.

The 50/1.4 E60 is head and shoulders above all else and is a bit disappointing when used as it makes all other lenses in the 50 range sub par!

For casual use and ease of carrying around, I like the 50/2 E60 and for proper photography, I prefer the 50/1.4 E60.

As I said earlier, all the R 50's are good and it starts getting finicky as to which is better.

Similar to a Chateau Latour vs Cheval Blanc. Not all would taste any difference and not all care about the difference!



Dec 15, 2012 at 09:29 AM
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p.129 #10 · p.129 #10 · Leica R Series Lenses


90mm Summicron


Surfers Paradise by letsgetaway, on Flickr

Edited on Dec 15, 2012 at 12:14 PM · View previous versions



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2zhangyue: great pictures with your R lenses! I was always looking for 50cron E55 couse it has nice pop/3D efect and more "character" than other 50mm lenses. Ill be selling Nikkor 50/1.8G cause I bought Siggy 50/1.4 which has a lot more character and smoother bokeh in similar f stops than Nikkor. Maybe my next step will be cron50 First I was looking for 50lux I.version E48 but prices are insanely high

Here is one from Dresden with D700 + Leica Elmarit-R 180/2.8 II E67:








Dec 15, 2012 at 12:07 PM
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a few today's from 50E60






















Dec 15, 2012 at 01:29 PM
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zhangyue wrote:
It would be nice you can show web size picture and given some conclusion here. I am lazy to see 100% raw by myself and trust your eyes


okay! but a bit later... today evening I'm lazy too



Dec 15, 2012 at 01:37 PM
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to his credit, michael also does take wonderful compositions regardless of the lenses...


Dec 15, 2012 at 02:22 PM
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Paul Yi wrote:
Summilux R 35 ...


Paul what camera are you using this on?



Dec 15, 2012 at 02:25 PM
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Worldinlens wrote:
okay! but a bit later... today evening I'm lazy too

No worry take your time, not just for me, I bet lots of people wonder that as well and prefer some pic and your conclusion
BTW, Nice shots from E60, I like the portrait the best!



Dec 15, 2012 at 05:58 PM
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crazeazn wrote:
to his credit, michael also does take wonderful compositions regardless of the lenses...


Thanks! I agree Lens won't give satisfied pic but lighting and compose will regardless of lens.



Dec 15, 2012 at 05:59 PM
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Almass wrote:
At the end of the day, they are all very good lenses.

The 50/1.4 E60 is head and shoulders above all else and is a bit disappointing when used as it makes all other lenses in the 50 range sub par!

For casual use and ease of carrying around, I like the 50/2 E60 and for proper photography, I prefer the 50/1.4 E60.

As I said earlier, all the R 50's are good and it starts getting finicky as to which is better.

Similar to a Chateau Latour vs Cheval Blanc. Not all would taste any difference and not all care about the
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Thanks for the info. I have seen many E60 picture lately for my entertainment. I feel the real advantage seems out focus area, bokeh is smoother than E55/48 version. MTF looks really great for stop down as well. I have 50lux ASPH, which suppose the best of best. I don't feel it is that special even for WO, sharpness difference getting really small at this level. But the price difference is not jutified IMO. In Asia, people over rate the lens, artificially make lens price high through eBay and their retail store. The same thing happened with 35cron v1 M, it is really not worth the prime compare to v2/v3. This is the tendency of Asia market.



Dec 15, 2012 at 06:46 PM
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crazeazn wrote:
Paul what camera are you using this on?



1Ds Mk II.....



Dec 15, 2012 at 08:14 PM
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aCIDfire wrote:
2zhangyue: great pictures with your R lenses! I was always looking for 50cron E55 couse it has nice pop/3D efect and more "character" than other 50mm lenses. Ill be selling Nikkor 50/1.8G cause I bought Siggy 50/1.4 which has a lot more character and smoother bokeh in similar f stops than Nikkor. Maybe my next step will be cron50 First I was looking for 50lux I.version E48 but prices are insanely high

Here is one from Dresden with D700 + Leica Elmarit-R 180/2.8 II E67:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7938/dsc4409finalsmall.jpg


Forget comment this great one! I like it a lot.

I take a 30min photo walk before go to work. I took my newly acquired 50cron R with D700 only. There is slightly rain on and off. I mainly want to take a look of this lens and know it before take a good use of it. Here are some samples, I did these for myself. but they might be very interesting to all others who want to know this lens so I just go a head to share it. My thought comes later.

All shoot by hand hold in raw and convert through LR4. it took me 10 min to adjust them all to have about the same exposure with slightly adjust highlight and shadow, that is it.

close distance rendering.

f2






f2.8






f4






f5.6






f8






At f2, the sharpness is decent and enough for me! it is not as good as my Zeiss MP50 and 50lux M ASPH, but it is definitely good enough. Bokeh at WO is average at this distance, slight FC can be seen here, but not strong. Bokeh after f4 at this distance start looks good just like most 50mm lens I have. after f2.8, the lens is already very sharp at focal point. great!

Overall, the performance is very decent, no obvious flaw to me.

TBC..



Dec 18, 2012 at 06:20 AM
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