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wanttosnap
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · canon fd 800mm 5.6 L


Hi,

I'm interested in finding out more about this lens because there's not much information on it. I'm getting into bird photography and I need the focal length (understand that focal length is never enough for wildlife photographers). Anyways, hopefully someone can post photos of what this lens is capable of and perhaps offer some information on where can i get hold of it. Really looking for one......

Thanks!




Feb 22, 2010 at 06:04 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · canon fd 800mm 5.6 L


FD? as in a manual focus lens? you may be better off buying a scope + adaptor to digitscope.


Feb 22, 2010 at 06:06 AM
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Here's one: http://www.keh.com/Product-Details/1/CA06009035006R/CA06/FE.aspx As for the scope comment, not sure if the aperture could be adjusted, and not sure what the bokeh would be like either. With the FD, there is a combo extender/adapter to EOS out there, or another option would be converting it permanently. Jim Buchanan or SK grimes could do it I imagine.


Feb 22, 2010 at 06:37 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · canon fd 800mm 5.6 L


If you are using an EOS camera, I strongly suggest you explore something like the EOS 400 f5.6. There are some instances in bird photography where manual foucs is practical, but many many more where fast auto focus and servo AI tracking provide great benifits. And of course the auto aperature is very useful unless you are always shooting wide open.


Feb 22, 2010 at 06:47 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · canon fd 800mm 5.6 L


I believe member burningheart has that lens...


Feb 22, 2010 at 06:53 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · canon fd 800mm 5.6 L


wanttosnap wrote:
Hi,

I'm interested in finding out more about this lens because there's not much information on it....


Which one? There are at least three variants of FD mount 800/5.6 lenses (two dsignated as L's & one as SSC):
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/fd/data/100-800/fd_800_56_ssc.html
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/fd/data/100-800/fd_800_56l.html
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/nfd/data/135-800/nfd_800_56l.html

HTH,
Omar



Feb 22, 2010 at 07:00 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · canon fd 800mm 5.6 L


FD and EOS do not mix well together. If anything, I'd suggest thinking about MFT.

http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-manual-lenses/#canonfd

http://www.cameraquest.com/adp_micro_43.htm

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Feb 22, 2010 at 12:06 PM
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dolina wrote:
FD? as in a manual focus lens? you may be better off buying a scope + adaptor to digitscope.


Not true at all, a manual focus 800/5.6 can really produce!





















Feb 22, 2010 at 01:45 PM
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First off can you give more specifics? Are you using FD mount bodies, EOS SLRs or DSLRs, etc.

I use an old Nikon 800/5.6 so may be able to help some. At first I was using it adapted on my EOS DSLRs and getting good results. So according to your situation, this may be an option for you also.

























All of these are the Nikon 800/5.6 on EOS bodies.



Feb 22, 2010 at 01:51 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · canon fd 800mm 5.6 L


ask around on the ALT forum. My guess is that the 800 might be able to be mount changed.
You can get FD to EOS adapters but unless you get the Canon one (which is hyper expensive if you can find one) they are either [email protected] optically or you loose infinity focus. Adapter is basicly either a TC (1.2x I think) or a small extension tube.

If you want 800mm and AF then you could look toward the Sigma 800 or 300-800 .both would be good value 2nd hand although not cheap.



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Ian.Dobinson wrote:
SNIP

If you want 800mm and AF then you could look toward the Sigma 800 or 300-800 .both would be good value 2nd hand although not cheap.


I am a big fan of the 300-800, it has the biggest kill zone of any lens I know of and at 300 you can easily find the subject in the FOV and then quickly zoom to 800 or anywhere between.

But I use my 500/f4 a lot more than the Sigmonster. I normally shoot the 500/f4 on a monopod, but can hand hold it with the monopod attached for those pop up subjects. The 800 (for me at least) is only for use on a honkin big tripod with a gimbal head.

To me the biggest difference between the 500 and the Sigma zoom is I can use the 500 with my normal shooting style; something I can't do with the Sigma.

I still find the Sigma a very valuable lens; but I use it in blinds or locations where I know birds will be, while the 500 on a monopod is very mobile.

Bottom line is you will have to change your shooting style with any 800; even more so if the 800 is MF only.

YMMV



Feb 22, 2010 at 06:43 PM
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dolina wrote:
FD? as in a manual focus lens? you may be better off buying a scope + adaptor to digitscope.


The things we learn on these forums.



Feb 22, 2010 at 07:45 PM
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An absolutely brilliant lens. Tricky to focus on moving objects with the manual focus and shallow DOF.


Feb 22, 2010 at 09:16 PM
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I had the lens for about a year along with the Canon FD-EOS converter. If you don't have the converter, forget about the lens (and the converter will cost about half as much as the lens). Manual focus using live-view was very accurate but very time consuming. If the birds were moving, I used my 400 f5.6. Pics at half the focal length were better than not getting any at all. About my only use of the lens was for photographing eagles at a nest were I could take my time setting up and focusing.

Shot below was taken wide open with a 50D.







Feb 22, 2010 at 09:40 PM
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pafoote wrote:
I had the lens for about a year along with the Canon FD-EOS converter. If you don't have the converter, forget about the lens (and the converter will cost about half as much as the lens). Manual focus using live-view was very accurate but very time consuming. If the birds were moving, I used my 400 f5.6. Pics at half the focal length were better than not getting any at all. About my only use of the lens was for photographing eagles at a nest were I could take my time setting up and focusing.

Shot below was taken wide open
...Show more

First off, nice shot!

I think we tend to discredit manual focus now days. But there were a lot of successful photographers over the years nailing action shots with manual focus.





Feb 23, 2010 at 02:16 AM
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(duplicate post.)

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Feb 23, 2010 at 02:46 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · canon fd 800mm 5.6 L


jamesdak wrote:
First off can you give more specifics? Are you using FD mount bodies, EOS SLRs or DSLRs, etc.

I use an old Nikon 800/5.6 so may be able to help some. At first I was using it adapted on my EOS DSLRs and getting good results. So according to your situation, this may be an option for you also.

All of these are the Nikon 800/5.6 on EOS bodies.


Very fine shots.

My feeling is that with a genuine FD-EOS converter one could get excellent service out of FD 800L + some FL extension as well. I believe the converter acts as a 1.26xTC or something like that. Almost one stop aperture loss though.

Good condition FD-EOS converters pop up on eBay occasionally......typically $700 to $1,000. Yet, that one time investment opens up your access to a whole slew of good and inexpensive FD telephoto lenses.
So if manual focusing is your thing, go for it.

BTW, check this writeup on the use of the converter with FD 200 f/1.8. Remarkable.
http://www.luciolepri.it/lc2/marcocavina/articoli_fotografici/Canon_200_1,8L_con_FD-EOS_converter/00_pag.htm



Feb 23, 2010 at 02:49 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · canon fd 800mm 5.6 L


Hi,

My current setup is EOS and I'm thinking of converting the FD mount permanently to EF mount. I know that this has been floating around for millions of years and mentioned to death but I'd like to try. The motivation here for me is to obtain 800mm focal length for cheap.

Still doing tons of research on this and i'm super attempted to get the FD 800mm advertised in KEH. I just wonder if it is worth the effort or will it be a pile of junk down the road.


jamesdak wrote:
First off can you give more specifics? Are you using FD mount bodies, EOS SLRs or DSLRs, etc.

I use an old Nikon 800/5.6 so may be able to help some. At first I was using it adapted on my EOS DSLRs and getting good results. So according to your situation, this may be an option for you also.

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/109562520.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/109397070.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/109121874.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/111104266.jpg

All of these are the Nikon 800/5.6 on EOS bodies.




Feb 23, 2010 at 03:38 AM
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jamesdak wrote:
Not true at all, a manual focus 800/5.6 can really produce!

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/108817889.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/109562694.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/120844974.jpg



Very fantastic shots you have here. May I know the setup that you have? DSLR, adapter? Permanent mount conversion?

Thanks!



Feb 23, 2010 at 03:42 AM
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If anyone were to "perfect" permanent modifications to super-telephoto FD lenses that would mount to an EOS and still allowed infinity focus without converters, I would wager there would be an explosion of activity surrounding old FD lenses.

I know I'd love to have a super tele lens, even manual focus, that has the optical quality of of the 400 f2.8, 500 f4.5, 600 f4, 800 f5.6, etc...

Any EF lens in this class is so far out of my price range that I'll never own one. If I could get a hugely discounted FD 'L' lens for static nature/wildlife shots permanently converted to EOS, I would seriously consider it.

Anyone have a nice metal shop and some CNC equipment?



Feb 23, 2010 at 05:44 AM
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