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p.1 #1 · misfocus on a sigma 50-150 ??


Hi, i'm a recent Canon convert, just bought a used Sigma 50-150 F2.8 for my new D90. It seems to not be very sharp between F2.8 and F5.

Whats the best way to test a lens like this? I've done some tests but I had the lens set up at minimum focusing distance from the subject (a couple feet or so). I'm thinking maybe this isn't a fair test since a telephoto like this most likely won't be used that close to the subject in the real world. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Ryan

Feb 09, 2010 at 05:22 PM
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p.1 #2 · misfocus on a sigma 50-150 ??


Best way to test a lens - go out and take pictures of what you bought it for. Why assume there is a problem?

Feb 09, 2010 at 05:25 PM
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p.1 #3 · misfocus on a sigma 50-150 ??


I'm assuming because there isn't a ton of sharpness until you close it down quite a bit. I was having trouble getting good shots. Not too mention, there are quite a few complaints in the review section about misfocus on this lens and other sigmas. I've had 2 sigmas on my canon, both of which I thought were perfectly fine (wide open). But again, I'm not getting too many sharp pics out of this one until I stop it down passed F5. I'm looking for a fast telephoto lens I can use wide open.

Feb 09, 2010 at 10:43 PM
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p.1 #4 · misfocus on a sigma 50-150 ??


Looks like you are going to need to shoot testcharts or something gradual (like a ruler. make photo's in a 45 degree angle and see how much the focus is off, and wether it is back or frontfocus.

When you can rule out misfocussing, you might need to post sample pictures with enough exif data for anyone else to judge them.

Sigma does have a history with focusing issues, so I'd advise to get this sorted out first.

-edit: Sorry, I clearly wasn't paying attention. You already tested the lens at close focus range? Well? can you post examples then? Although this lens might not be optimised for this range, these tests might give an indication if focus is off at all

Feb 09, 2010 at 11:44 PM
 



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p.1 #5 · misfocus on a sigma 50-150 ??


The most difficult to get right is the mid distances. Mid distances are used very often, and to compound the problem, at mid distances even slight AF errors are easily discernible in the images.

We have been doing research on AF accuracy over the last 5 years and have taken tens of thousands of test target shots. In the beginning we made the mistake of focusing our testing on minimum focusing distance. We have since then recognized the mistake and put equal emphasis on closest focusing distance, mid focusing distances and even infinity. We are not forgetting infinity, even though there is supposed to be a lot of depth of field. When you critically evaluate 100% crops you realize there are different shades of "infinity".

Our cameras are cameras, not laser measurement devices. Properly calibrated, they do a great job under all real photographic situations. Overly focused on a single test case but ignoring the big picture always does more harm than good. Any autofocus accuracy testing must be comprehensive and cover a wide variety of test conditions. You want 90% of the test cases to be very accurate and the rest of the 10% accurate enough. You do not want 1% of the test cases to be super accurate but the rest of the 99% to be way off. Test targets are still useful tools because if you do test targets well the real photographic subjects will do even better. We have always had pretty gigantic AF test targets for this purpose.

The camera and the lens must be matched for AF accuracy evaluation. That is to say, the same lens may be accurate on one camera but inaccurate on another, and the same camera may be accurate on one lens but inaccurate on another lens.

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Edited on Feb 10, 2010 at 12:39 AM · View previous versions


Feb 10, 2010 at 12:32 AM
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p.1 #6 · misfocus on a sigma 50-150 ??


I had 1 (actually 2) on my 450D and liked it, but the first one had some frontfocus. After sending it back to Sigma, I got a new one which was better. After sending my 450D for calibration the 50-150 was spot-on. I've tested my 50-150 against my 70-200 f/4L IS and at f/4 it could keep up, but had to stay below 135mm. At 150mm it was a little softer. So, my copy was definitely sharp, but my first copy had some focus issues.

Feb 10, 2010 at 12:36 AM
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p.1 #7 · misfocus on a sigma 50-150 ??


The first version of the 50-150 was actually quite soft as you approach MFD. Second version is better, but not brilliant... For close-up work you can do a lot better.

So don't go crazy and spend too much time on checking the lens - if it's ok from 2.5-3m upwards, then I'd say that this is what to expect.

For tests in the mid-range focus distances you really don't need specific charts, some wide marker-pen lines (or packaging tape strips) of different widths on a piece of cardboard usually does the trick. Avoid "flickering" lights like fluorescents when lighting the target - best light is usually what nature provides us with. Keep cardboard as flat towards the optical axis as possible, and try to keep some references along the optical axis that makes it easy to see exactly where the camera/lens placed the focal plane.

Even in PERFECT focus the sharpness of the first 50-150 deteriorates rather quickly when you go under 2.5m (8'), at all zoom positions

Feb 10, 2010 at 02:00 AM




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