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p.3 #1 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


Looks like the 50 MP wins that one fairly clearly to me, as one might expect.

Bobu wrote:
Here are some more pictures with the two lenses (with LR dafault sharpening 25/1.0/25, shot from a tripod with liveview-focus but with some movement of the roses due to wind possible):

Bokeh is much better on the picture of the 50MP.

Boris






Feb 10, 2010 at 03:02 AM
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p.3 #2 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


erichard wrote:
Looks like the 50 MP wins that one fairly clearly to me, as one might expect



Yes, indeed. Quite clearly.




Feb 10, 2010 at 03:30 AM
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p.3 #3 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


Ok, here are some comparison shots between my ZE50/2 MP, contax N 50/1.4, and ZF 35/2. First I start off with the extreme right corner crops at f8 in the order listed above:

















Feb 10, 2010 at 09:53 AM
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p.3 #4 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


A picture with the D3S and ZF 50mm Makro; and a crop from the right lower quadrant. This is a spectacular lens, and sharp. No sharpening or processing aside from RAW to JPG via Capture One and saving for web in PS.














Feb 10, 2010 at 09:53 AM
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p.3 #5 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


Same thing except for f5.6

















Feb 10, 2010 at 09:55 AM
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p.3 #6 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


And f4:

















Feb 10, 2010 at 09:57 AM
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p.3 #7 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


And 2.8:

















Feb 10, 2010 at 09:59 AM
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p.3 #8 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


And f2:

















Feb 10, 2010 at 10:11 AM
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p.3 #9 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


Here is the entire scene shot with ZE 50/2 MP at f8 just so you can see where and how big the corner crops are relative to the whole picture.
I will next show center crops later which highlight how sharp the 50 MP is in the center and most of the way across the frame.







Feb 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM
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p.3 #10 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


BTW, for all these shots I only adjusted the the exposure and WB in LR and only did input sharpening in LR using 52/1/25/0 and did not sharpen for web.


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p.3 #11 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


Here are the left middle crops, left and higher than true middle, f8 same lens order:

















Feb 10, 2010 at 05:26 PM
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p.3 #12 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


And f5.6:

















Feb 10, 2010 at 05:28 PM
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p.3 #13 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


And f4:

















Feb 10, 2010 at 05:29 PM
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p.3 #14 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


And f2.8:

















Feb 10, 2010 at 05:31 PM
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p.3 #15 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


And f2:

















Feb 10, 2010 at 05:32 PM
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p.3 #16 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


Sorry, about the slight WB difference between the shots, I tried to equalize them the best I could but looks like I warmed up the contax N too much relative to the ZE.
Also, tried to make the FOV of the 35 shots equal to the 50mm shots but was also a little off but good enough I think.

Hope these shots show both the corner problem which Boris originally started this thread with and some perspective along with it and also the more central crops which show how good the 50MP is along with the 35/2.



Feb 10, 2010 at 05:36 PM
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p.3 #17 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


Thank you very much Wayne, that really helps.
The corner performance of the 35ZE, even wide open is amazing, comparable to the 21 Distagon and the 100MP. I had expected the same from the 50MP. The center performance, escpecially the contrast is great, but for good corners you have to stop down to at least f/5.6.

35ZE oder 50MP? Difficult decision. I would like a 50MP with the corner performance of the 35ZE. Has anybody compared these lenses with the Sigma 1.4/50, which is also highly regarded?

Thanks again Wayne for the effort.

Boris



Feb 10, 2010 at 06:24 PM
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p.3 #18 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


Your welcome Boris! Good luck in your your 50mm search. I think you will need both a 35 and a 50 lens like Lotusm50 mentioned as it is a big gap from 21 to 100. I think I have shown that the 50MP matches the contrast and resolution of the 35/2 except for the extreme corners below f5.6, although the 35 has some vignetting at f2 and f2.8. You can see how the 50 MP is easily sharper than the contax N 50/1.4 from f4 to f2 and slightly better at 5.6 and f8.
I think you will have a hard time finding a lens which is as sharp across the frame like the 50 MP despite its extreme corner below f5.6 problem. It also has great sharpness and contrast at wide apertures and has nice bokeh as you have shown. As Lotusm50 said, no lens is perfect. But IMHO that this is the best 50 for landscape out there.



Feb 10, 2010 at 07:53 PM
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p.3 #19 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


Wayne,
Thank you for the comparison. It would seem that the corner softness of the 50/2 mp is really in just the very corner at apertures larger than f5.6. From your corner shots there appears quite a gradient of sharpness (and vignetting) from L to R. This suggests that this area of softness will just minimally effect the edges of the frame furthest from the image center.
The 35 looks really good, did you uprez the images for these crops?
Its good to know the behavior of these individual lenses as we can best use their strengths in planning our shots. Thanks.
Mike K



Feb 10, 2010 at 07:58 PM
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p.3 #20 · Zeiss 2.0/50mm MP ZE


Mike K wrote:
Wayne,
Thank you for the comparison. It would seem that the corner softness of the 50/2 mp is really in just the very corner at apertures larger than f5.6.



Right, Mike. It is only the extreme end of the corner where the softness can be seen at large apertures. It's performance in this regard among 50mm lenses is exemplary. The ZE 35mm is a little better in the extreme corner but the difference isn't really that great that I would run a buy a 35mm lens when I needed a 50mm lens. You will be hard pressed to find a better 50mm lens than the ZE 50 MP.




Feb 10, 2010 at 08:32 PM
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