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p.842 #1 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Thank you Ronny and Samuli.

Samuli, I wanted to retain the awakening of the day by leaving the foreground darker. The foreground values are 1/3 to 1/2 those of the sky. I did not seek those values numerically but arrived at them for what looked good to me. While I did sample a range of brightness of the foregound, making it brighter substantially changed the mood of the image from serene to Martian.




Apr 08, 2013 at 01:14 AM
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I was asked to photograph a family today. It was a great day to do so and came away with some fun pictures. As I pulled into my driveway I reached for my camera and bag only to find that I had left the bag at the park. My head began to flood with thoughts of stupidity. Not wasting a moment I threw the truck into gear, dumped the clutch and raced back to the park. An hour and 15 minutes after I had left the park I was fortunate to find my camera bag sitting under the
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Sounds like you had an exciting day

Nice car (maybe).



Apr 08, 2013 at 07:10 AM
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p.842 #3 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Jim, thanks for explanation - artistic preferences are rather subjective and most of us here would shoot same subject completely differently.

Lots of great images on last page - spring is clearly coming
- Wilhelm 35mm renders the old guy very well, loving also the background
- Phil, unluckily you had pretty poor lightning in Venetsia, nice to see 2/35 still managed to bring life to the pictures
- Ronny, the boat shot is really nice, showing 2/35 at it's best
- Johnny, the frontal shot of the rusty firebird is nice - thou I would have shoot it with f/2.2-2.5 range to increase contrast on target and smoothen background (and most likely exposed ~1/3 stop less, at least in post process)



28mm Distagon doesn't seem to be very popular lens. Also I have to admit I don't shoot it very often. It's otherwise nice but due to too small lens barrel (corners too dark and have too much DOF) I can't use it for bokeh shots with larger aperture than f/4. At f/4 bokeh is rather good, but I would hope to be able to use f/2.0-2.8 with this wide lens. Another issue is that this lens makes sensor to do magenta blooming very easily and has quite big CA. But when I manage to go around these issues I really like it's rendering.

At end of March I went out just with 2/28 and 2/35 (I almost always shoot two camera bodies), since during 2013 I want to learn to be better wide angle photographer. This forced me to shoot wide angle (these are wide to me), not sure do I like compositions that much, but hopefully I'm able to improve on those during 2013. At least I have found out that I personally don't like wide angle images, in which camera is tilted to get something into picture. Due to this I try to keep camera on level so that the vertical objects (e.g. trees) in the edges are not leaning towards the center of the image.


#1 Carl Zeiss T* 2/28 @ f/4, 1/640s, 5DmkII @ ISO 100


#2 Carl Zeiss T* 2/28 @ f/8, 1/160s, 5DmkII @ ISO 100


#3 Carl Zeiss T* 2/28 @ f/4, 1/1250s, 5DmkII @ ISO 100


#4 Carl Zeiss T* 2/28 @ f/2.5, 1/4000s, 5DmkII @ ISO 100


#5 Carl Zeiss T* 2/28 @ f/2.2, 1/4000s, 5DmkII @ ISO 100


#6 Carl Zeiss T* 2/28 @ f/4, 1/400s, 5DmkII @ ISO 100


Samuli



Apr 08, 2013 at 05:58 PM
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p.842 #4 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Johnny, you got lucky! Seeing the bag still standing there must have been such a relief.

Some of you might remember me selling a lot of my Zeiss ZE lenses? Well, I've only got the 21 and 50P left and was thinking to just quit using a DSLR.
I recently bought the Fuji 14mm (which is great), but it soon reminded me how much I've always loved my 21mm distagon.
Because of this I've decided sell the Fuji kit and don't abandon the DSLR just yet.

21ZE:


Under the pink clouds by Jochen-B, on Flickr




Apr 08, 2013 at 06:14 PM
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Very nice shot, Jochen. What was it that you prefer about the Zeiss than the Fuji 14? Did you do some comparison photos?

Great results, Samuli. I like this lens very much, and just try not to put anything in the corners which would look bad if a bit dark and unsharp



Apr 08, 2013 at 07:16 PM
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p.842 #6 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Thanks !
Great shot Samuli
Great shot Jochen





Carl Zeiss 1.4/85 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Carl Zeiss 1.4/85 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 100mm f/2 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr



Apr 08, 2013 at 07:22 PM
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p.842 #7 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


50P



Apr 08, 2013 at 08:28 PM
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I am astonished at how clear and crisp so many of the images in this thread are. I probably shouldn't be as my Zeiss binoculars are razor sharp, but still...


Apr 08, 2013 at 08:58 PM
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kwoodard wrote:
I am astonished at how clear and crisp so many of the images in this thread are. I probably shouldn't be as my Zeiss binoculars are razor sharp, but still...


I wont deny that Zeiss lens are sharp, but in certain cases its more about user and his shooting and especially post-processing skill.. Certain threads on FM makes me cry a little, when I see high-end gear literally wasted. Alt corner is sometimes exact opposite, how much ppl can do with so little.. Probably why I like it here.

But yes, Zeiss lens can be razor sharp like nothing else and if they are not, they are at least percieved as sharp.



Apr 08, 2013 at 09:09 PM
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p.842 #10 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


I for one have done less and less editing over the years, in the beginning I got carried away with the possibilities losing sight of content and composition. Don't get me wrong, I shot raw so o/c I do edit, not just like before.
I hate sounding like a dull fanboy, but usually Zeiss characteristics do carry their own, they don't need much pushing or tweaking, they are strong and sublime (!) at the same time.

In another forum someone said he preferred the nikkor 1.2/50 Ai(s) to the 50P because it was sharper at 1.4...........
Of all the characteristics of a lens, the possibilities they hold, the beauty they paint and people are still blinded by sharpness (and at one aperture, at that). *sigh*



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Mescalamba wrote:
I wont deny that Zeiss lens are sharp, but in certain cases its more about user and his shooting and especially post-processing skill.. Certain threads on FM makes me cry a little, when I see high-end gear literally wasted. Alt corner is sometimes exact opposite, how much ppl can do with so little.. Probably why I like it here.

But yes, Zeiss lens can be razor sharp like nothing else and if they are not, they are at least percieved as sharp.


What always makes me sad to think about is in 1992, I was offered a Nikon film camera and a suite of Zeiss glass as a graduation gift. I had the option of the kit or cash (whatever could be received for the sale of the kit). I took the cash as I hadn't done any photography in a bunch of years. If memory serves, all the glass was the fastest available for each respective focal length. 28, 35, 50, 85 and 100. I received $2000 to go towards a car, I think even then, the seller was robbed.

Some day I think I will get one to go with my MF kit of old Nikon/Nikkor lenses.



Apr 08, 2013 at 09:17 PM
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Samuli, The CY 28/2 also called "Hollywood" is my current dream lens. If I had the ZE I imagine I use it all the time.

Fantastic boat Ronny
Fantastic car Johnny B (#1)

Distagon 35/1.4. It looks better when I move slightly away from the screen. How odd.




Apr 08, 2013 at 09:19 PM
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p.842 #13 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Piazza Del Notturno, Bologna - D700 + 2/35




Apr 08, 2013 at 09:31 PM
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Piazza De La Mercanzia, Bologna

A 9 shot square pano in another piazza - D700 + 2/35




Apr 08, 2013 at 09:34 PM
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Mescalamba wrote:
Certain threads on FM makes me cry a little, when I see high-end gear literally wasted. Alt corner is sometimes exact opposite, how much ppl can do with so little..


I want to try the average-Joe crappy processing!!!! How it's done? JPGs directly out from Lightroom and upload to crappy photo sharing site? Please advice if someone has clue how they make their images look so bad. (honest request not troll)

[I'm not sure how much is needed, just loaded yesterday first image to facebook and it looks pretty crappy compared to JPG-file on my hard drive, even colors went worse.]


wfrank wrote:
Samuli, The CY 28/2 also called "Hollywood" is my current dream lens. If I had the ZE I imagine I use it all the time.


Hmmm, I doubt C/Y version has anything to do with the ZE/ZF version. PDFs:
Contax Distagon T* 2/2.8 C/Y8 - 9 lens elements, 8 groups
Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2/28 Z* - 10 lens elements, 8 groups

MTFs curves are little similar but new one has much more contrast. Also there are some major differences on the lens elements shapes if you compare them.


wfrank wrote:
Distagon 35/1.4. It looks better when I move slightly away from the screen. How odd.


Hmmm, too late to anymore start macpro, but it works same way on my laptop screen - weird.

Samuli



Apr 08, 2013 at 09:50 PM
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Not a bad suggestion Samuli Vahonen. Thanks for the compliments. Maybe the story was a bit TMI but my emotions were running high.




Apr 08, 2013 at 09:54 PM
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carstenw wrote:
Very nice shot, Jochen. What was it that you prefer about the Zeiss than the Fuji 14? Did you do some comparison photos?


Thanks Carsten.
I did shoot some quick comparison photos and they confirmed what I was already seeing/feeling. They're actually quite close. The fuji is really good, especially the very low distortion. However, the lens/x-trans sensor doesn't give me the same microcontrast. The Zeiss' microcontrast looks more natural and reacts better to resizing IMHO.



Apr 08, 2013 at 10:48 PM
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p.842 #18 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Lots of great shots, but Jochen's pink sky image and wfrank's abandoned bike stand out. The bar is set quite high in this thread!

Dave



Apr 09, 2013 at 01:10 AM
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Samuli Vahonen wrote:
I want to try the average-Joe crappy processing!!!! How it's done? JPGs directly out from Lightroom and upload to crappy photo sharing site? Please advice if someone has clue how they make their images look so bad. (honest request not troll)

[I'm not sure how much is needed, just loaded yesterday first image to facebook and it looks pretty crappy compared to JPG-file on my hard drive, even colors went worse.]

Samuli


Facebook is sure way to kill any good quality photo. When I post there, its just link to Tumblr or Flickr. Well and I have profile pic, yea thats about it.


How to make bad processing.. hm, lets see.

JPEGs out of camera, thats sure. Best choice would be something older from Sony. If WB is wrong, let it be. Then try to use worst downsizing algorithm you can find. Yea it needs to be sharper, so sharpen that output with large radius high sharpening. Then maybe compress photo a bit more.

Should be enough and if not, kill it with 256 color mode!

Colorblinds and shaky hands get advantage.. thats sure. And never forget to NEVER correct horizont, or CA, or distortion.. or anything. Its perfect out of camera, isnt it?

Well and there is always Instagram..

kwoodard wrote:
What always makes me sad to think about is in 1992, I was offered a Nikon film camera and a suite of Zeiss glass as a graduation gift. I had the option of the kit or cash (whatever could be received for the sale of the kit). I took the cash as I hadn't done any photography in a bunch of years. If memory serves, all the glass was the fastest available for each respective focal length. 28, 35, 50, 85 and 100. I received $2000 to go towards a car, I think even then, the seller was robbed.

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That would make me cry a bit.



Apr 09, 2013 at 03:32 AM
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wfrank wrote:
Samuli, The CY 28/2 also called "Hollywood" is my current dream lens. If I had the ZE I imagine I use it all the time.

Fantastic boat Ronny
Fantastic car Johnny B (#1)

Distagon 35/1.4. It looks better when I move slightly away from the screen. How odd.


Small screen maybe? Nice pic..

C/Y 28/2 mm.. funny, only lens that made me think about Canon camera (cause its only FF that can take AE variant). One of my dream lens too..



Apr 09, 2013 at 03:38 AM
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