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p.16 #1 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

In my experience as well, there is no visible difference between 100 ISO and 200. So the logical suspect is the HTP.
OTOH, Rick, isn't it a wee bit early in the year to start preparing for Thanksgiving?

Mar 14, 2010 at 08:33 PM

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I think it is illegal to shoot them out of season -April I think!

Mar 14, 2010 at 08:45 PM

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While testing live view in "display movie" mode (Adam, thanks again!) I started really like the look of 85ZE bokeh:
Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/85 @ f/2, 1/30s, ISO 400:
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So I went to go to car museum to test the bokeh (REALLY bored to shooting snow landscapes). And I started really like bokeh of both Planars, as long as they are stopped down to f/1.8-f/2.2 or more. Also I was quite happy about close-up sharpness, thou these shots are not good for evaluating sharpness (handheld and ISO 800).

MG - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/50 @ f/2.5, 1/60s, ISO 800
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Sign from President's old car - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/50 @ f/2.5, 1/60s, ISO 800
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VW - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/50 @ f/2.5, 1/50s, ISO 800
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Citroen - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/50 @ f/2.2, 1/60s, ISO 800
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Mercedes - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/50 @ f/2.2, 1/40s, ISO 800
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Plymouth - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/85 @ f/2, 1/60s, ISO 800
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Mar 14, 2010 at 10:36 PM

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p.16 #4 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

This thread has really cost me some money! I got a great deal on a slightly used Planar 50/1.4 and I just pulled the trigger on a 21/2.8, which I can't wait to get my hands on. Plus I ordered the Rokinon 85/1.4 (though that lens clearly doesn't belong in this thread)!

No more spending money for a while.

Mar 14, 2010 at 10:55 PM

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p.16 #5 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

Really beautiful shots, Samuli! But then, is it really news?

Mar 15, 2010 at 04:16 AM

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p.16 #6 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

Congratulations on your new lenses, kev! Have fun!

Mar 15, 2010 at 04:36 AM

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a few fresh Spring pictures taken today

They look much better before downgrading them to srgb 8-bit JPEGs...

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Mar 15, 2010 at 04:45 AM

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Great shots snowboarder. They may have looked better before downgrading them to srgb 8-bit JPEGs, but I'm tired enough of winter not to notice or care

What lens BTW?

Mar 15, 2010 at 04:58 AM

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Lovely pics, Andrew! That also is hardly news

Mar 15, 2010 at 05:18 AM

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KyleR. wrote:
adamdewilde wrote:
Just to let everyone in on a little tip I learned..

When I had the 5D I got the manual focusing screen (E_-S), and honestly it sucked. Now that I have the 5DII I use liveview with the z-finder (picked it up for video work), BUT I just today went out and picked up a Eg-S from my local camera shop (as they give me good pricing $25 USD) and it's WAY better the the older screen, I mean WOW, now when I focus the second I press the shutter the dot lights up, as in, the camera is telling me YAY you did it. It's really much nicer.. One might argue it's the same, in which case my last screen was a knock-off, or my new screen is super special.

Anyway, I just wanted to add that to give that little push to those considering the screen.

Does the eg-s focus screen work on a t1i too?

I don't think so... Eg-S is for 5DII only, each camera has it's own set of screens, some canon cameras can't change there screens though.

Mar 15, 2010 at 05:57 AM

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Samuli Vahonen wrote:
While testing live view in "display movie" mode (Adam, thanks again!) I started really like the look of 85ZE bokeh:
Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/85 @ f/2, 1/30s, ISO 400:

So I went to go to car museum to test the bokeh (REALLY bored to shooting snow landscapes). And I started really like bokeh of both Planars, as long as they are stopped down to f/1.8-f/2.2 or more. Also I was quite happy about close-up sharpness, thou these shots are not good for evaluating sharpness (handheld and ISO 800).

MG - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/50 @ f/2.5, 1/60s, ISO 800

Sign from President's old car - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/50 @ f/2.5, 1/60s, ISO 800

VW - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/50 @ f/2.5, 1/50s, ISO 800

Citroen - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/50 @ f/2.2, 1/60s, ISO 800

Mercedes - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/50 @ f/2.2, 1/40s, ISO 800

Plymouth - Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/85 @ f/2, 1/60s, ISO 800

Samuli

No problem, I'm glad I could help.. Just repay US (the forum) with good pictures.... And ME with ZE lenses!

I'm about to take a look at these shots u posted now.

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Mar 15, 2010 at 05:59 AM

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p.16 #12 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

Boy, I hate posting right after Snowboarder.

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Mar 15, 2010 at 06:07 AM

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p.16 #13 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

Samuli - some reading for you, particularly under the TV and Av settings column: http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=3287

This should make you even happier... Now we can shoot in Av and Tv mode with live view and ZE lenses that have focus shift (although when I say we, I don't mean I, as I'm using a 100MP and soon will be picking up the 50MP and both from what I've read don't have focus shift problems).

Best,
Adam

P.S. I think the new firmware is due out on the 17th..

Mar 15, 2010 at 10:14 AM

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p.16 #14 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

adamdewilde wrote:
KyleR. wrote:
adamdewilde wrote:
Just to let everyone in on a little tip I learned..

When I had the 5D I got the manual focusing screen (E_-S), and honestly it sucked. Now that I have the 5DII I use liveview with the z-finder (picked it up for video work), BUT I just today went out and picked up a Eg-S from my local camera shop (as they give me good pricing $25 USD) and it's WAY better the the older screen, I mean WOW, now when I focus the second I press the shutter the dot lights up, as in, the camera is telling me YAY you did it. It's really much nicer.. One might argue it's the same, in which case my last screen was a knock-off, or my new screen is super special.

Anyway, I just wanted to add that to give that little push to those considering the screen.

Does the eg-s focus screen work on a t1i too?

I don't think so... Eg-S is for 5DII only, each camera has it's own set of screens, some canon cameras can't change there screens though.

Thanks ADam. SO it seems like canon doesn't make a focusing screen for the rebels. Does anybody have any experience with katzeye focusing screens? Do you like split prism circle and microprism collar??

Thanks,
Kyle

Mar 15, 2010 at 02:20 PM

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Thanks ADam. SO it seems like canon doesn't make a focusing screen for the rebels. Does anybody have any experience with katzeye focusing screens? Do you like split prism circle and microprism collar??

Not with katz-eye, but with focusingscreen.com. I had a horizontal split+microprism collar screen (it is called FSB) on my 450D/XSI and I liked it. If I needed really accurate focusing (and had a few seconds time) I used the split, but if I hadn't much time then I used the microprism collar. Above f/5.6 it was hard to use the screen (just like the AF...) but at f/1.2 till f/4 it was very good. I mainly used it with my Rokkor 45/2 and 58/1.2, but also in difficult situations ("shooting" animals through a fence) with my AF lenses.

Mar 15, 2010 at 04:55 PM

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p.16 #16 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

Thanks U.C.
the reason I was looking at Katzeye was because of their optibrite feature. It seems like it makes the screen usable at lower f stops. Question, what do you do if you have that screen that is too dark above f5.6 when you want to go f8 for example?

Mar 15, 2010 at 05:01 PM

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p.16 #17 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

I used live-view or I used f/4 for focusing and stopped down when shooting (just like electronic aperture works).

Mar 15, 2010 at 05:27 PM

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p.16 #18 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

Kyle,

Sorry I don't know about alternate screens. I'm sure you'll find the answers your looking for if you just ask around "U.C." seems to have used alternative screens before.

Mar 15, 2010 at 05:36 PM

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I use a Katzeye horizontal split screen on my crop Canon. It probably upped my infocus shots by more than 30%. I got the screen with the brightening feature. I couldn't focus at f8 and in fact, have never tried to focus above f4, but I don't have any 5.6 lenses. In my case the split screen is what upped my keepers, not the brightness which I don't recall was any/much better than the standard Canon screen. Compared to many on this forum I sense I'm a bit older and it was a pleasure to go back to a split screen like I used the first 20+ years I had an SLR.

Now if Katzeye would only make a screen for full frame I'd be all set. I much prefer it to the EF-S screen on my 5D.

Mar 15, 2010 at 06:25 PM

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I got the Katzeye split screen for my 450D when I found MF with any accuracy totally impossible. The result with the new screen was really bad. The back focus of the Contax 35 f/1.4 was violent, 35-70 and 28/2.8 really bad, 85mm Sonnar almost usable, but worse the further away the subject was. As the screen work as it should with Canon lenses, I guess that the cheap Fotodiox adapters where to blame. Luckily I ordered focus confirm adapters, Haoda, at the same time. And the result with these have been so good, that I have not yet got around to analyze the problem with the screen or as I suspect, with the thickness of the adapters.

Mar 15, 2010 at 07:33 PM

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Z250SA wrote:
I got the Katzeye split screen for my 450D when I found MF with any accuracy totally impossible. The result with the new screen was really bad. The back focus of the Contax 35 f/1.4 was violent, 35-70 and 28/2.8 really bad, 85mm Sonnar almost usable, but worse the further away the subject was. As the screen work as it should with Canon lenses, I guess that the cheap Fotodiox adapters where to blame. Luckily I ordered focus confirm adapters, Haoda, at the same time. And the result with these have been so good, that I have not yet got around to analyze the problem with the screen or as I suspect, with the thickness of the adapters.

Your focus screen may need to be calibrated with different shims. I'm shooting with a Rebel XT and I'm able to nail focus with my Katz Eye with both my Super Takumar 135/3.5 (Which isn't much of a stretch since its not that fast) and my Canon 50/1.4 (wide open).

Mar 15, 2010 at 07:47 PM

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p.16 #22 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

Thanks guys,
the one problem that I see with the micro prisms and split screen is that u have to focus then recompose.
Ive heard that Katzeye will do just a matte screen with no prisms, etc. if you ask nicely. Is this better than with?

Mar 15, 2010 at 07:57 PM

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p.16 #23 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

Kyle, that's what I like about the split screen and MF over AF. I focus on whatever is most important to me and shoot. I pick where I focus and then compose. It's rarely in the dead center but I adjust the composition until I've got it where I want. That's how I took photos 35 years ago and it seems natural too me. I never could get used to the different AF focus points and my camera's idea of what should be in focus vs. my vision. But then again, I don't take many pictures of things moving quickly. For those I love my AF lenses.

Mar 15, 2010 at 08:48 PM

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zombii wrote:
Boy, I hate posting right after Snowboarder.

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Rod,
Don't worry, I like your shot better.

It looks like a real photograph with normal amounts of color saturation.
Thanks for keeping it real!

Mar 15, 2010 at 09:33 PM

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p.16 #25 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)

Thanks Wayne. I really liked his white flowers though.

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