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p.29 #1 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

I really, I mean really, tried to ignore this thread.....but you guys are not helping out here....
What should I choose .... between C/Y 35/1.4 and ZE 35/2.0 ....?
And, please don't tell me to get both.....

Jul 27, 2010 at 01:27 AM

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p.29 #2 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

I'm waiting for the ZE 35/1.4

Jul 27, 2010 at 01:42 AM

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p.29 #3 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

Luka,

Here is a repost of previous image with your sharpening for web flow.
What do you think? I did two sharpens after the 1024 resize.
Thanks for sharing your flow.

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Jul 27, 2010 at 04:12 AM

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p.29 #4 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

wayne seltzer wrote:
Finally got some time to process some shots. CZ 35/1.4 on 1ds3:
Any feedback is appreciated.

It's about time.

Beautiful work on the coastal shot, Wayne. It's nice to see it landed in the hands of someone who appreciates it.

Jul 27, 2010 at 04:42 AM

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p.29 #5 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

wayne seltzer wrote:
Luka,

Here is a repost of previous image with your sharpening for web flow.
What do you think? I did two sharpens after the 1024 resize.
Thanks for sharing your flow.

Hmm.. definitely better, but still a bit over sharpened. Rocks are notoriously difficult to get just right.. The two sharpens in the end - were they smart sharpens (radius=0.2)?

Jul 27, 2010 at 07:40 AM

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p.29 #6 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

Paul Yi wrote:
I really, I mean really, tried to ignore this thread.....but you guys are not helping out here....
What should I choose .... between C/Y 35/1.4 and ZE 35/2.0 ....?
And, please don't tell me to get both.....

Luka has both. You should too!

Jul 27, 2010 at 08:03 AM

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p.29 #7 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

Yep, they are different. The 35/1.4 has a more subtle drawing style while the 35/2 is sharper. The color rendering is different as well. If the 35/1.4 comes out in ZE mount, then that would be the one to pick if you had to choose one. Adapted 35/1.4 vs native 35/2 is a tossup. If you can, get both.

Jul 27, 2010 at 12:42 PM

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p.29 #8 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

Paul,
I have both lenses and like them both.
For wide open f1.4 or f2 shooting I prefer the CZ 35/1.4 and also for low-light shooting.
I also prefer it for portraits and times when you want more separation between subject and background and/or more 3-d feel. For stopped down ~f8 landscape shooting I need to do some comparisons first but both do well with the edge maybe going to the Z* 35/2.

Luka,
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, last two sharpens were smart sharpen with radius of 0.2.
One question, what advanced settings do you use on these smart sharpen stages?
I just used the basic version when I did this.
Also, before I have only used USM and smart sharpening functions and never used the "sharpen" function. What algorithm does that function use? Is it similar to USM? Those first two sharpens really provide a lot of sharpening. I guess my main problem besides not using a two stage reduction process with incremental sharpening was not sharpening more before reduction. I thought people told me that causes artifacts and to only sharpen after resizing.
Also, you use bicubic sharper when reducing each time, right?

Jul 27, 2010 at 10:40 PM

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p.29 #9 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

Wayne, no advanced settings just the basic one. And no - I use regular bicubic resize, not sharper. I have found that the bicubic sharper is pretty crude when it comes to sharpening.

I have no idea how the "Sharpen" function algorithm works and how it differs from USM. The reason why I'm using it is simply because I used Samuli's resize as an starting point for my own. It worked well, so I never bothered changing it.

Jul 27, 2010 at 10:53 PM

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p.29 #10 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

denoir wrote:
Wayne, no advanced settings just the basic one. And no - I use regular bicubic resize, not sharper. I have found that the bicubic sharper is pretty crude when it comes to sharpening.

I have no idea how the "Sharpen" function algorithm works and how it differs from USM. The reason why I'm using it is simply because I used Samuli's resize as an starting point for my own. It worked well, so I never bothered changing it.

Thanks, I'll retry it with regular bicubic.

Jul 27, 2010 at 11:01 PM

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p.29 #11 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

Greed and money don't always go together ....
Money runs out much faster.....

At the moment, C/Y 35/1.4 is more tempting, but I need to sort out my gear rearrangement...

Jul 27, 2010 at 11:30 PM

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p.29 #12 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

freaklikeme wrote:
wayne seltzer wrote:
Finally got some time to process some shots. CZ 35/1.4 on 1ds3:
Any feedback is appreciated.

It's about time.

Beautiful work on the coastal shot, Wayne. It's nice to see it landed in the hands of someone who appreciates it.

Thanks Brad!

Thanks again for selling it to me. It's a sweet lens!

Jul 28, 2010 at 05:21 AM

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p.29 #13 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

denoir wrote:
wayne seltzer wrote:
Luka,

Here is a repost of previous image with your sharpening for web flow.
What do you think? I did two sharpens after the 1024 resize.
Thanks for sharing your flow.

Hmm.. definitely better, but still a bit over sharpened. Rocks are notoriously difficult to get just right.. The two sharpens in the end - were they smart sharpens (radius=0.2)?

Ok, another retry using bicubic instead of bicubic sharper(sorry everyone for all the reposts)

2012 © wayne seltzer

Jul 28, 2010 at 05:23 AM

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p.29 #14 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

I think it's much better now Wayne. I would possibly just use one smart sharpen instead of two at the end, but that's really nitpicking.

Paul Yi wrote:
Greed and money don't always go together ....
Money runs out much faster.....

At the moment, C/Y 35/1.4 is more tempting, but I need to sort out my gear rearrangement...

Yes, the 35/1.4 is very nice, or to express it in your preferred terms:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Jul 28, 2010 at 08:59 AM

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p.29 #15 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

Very artistic Luka, I really like this shot.

Please send the lens to Australia for further evaluations!

Jul 28, 2010 at 09:32 AM

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p.29 #16 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

Thanks Charles - I did not take you for a bench connoisseur

Jul 28, 2010 at 10:14 AM

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p.29 #17 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

It's possible that our dreams might come true soon

... I just found the following line in the new product catalog of 'Light+Byte', which is an official Zeiss distributor here in Switzerland:

Zeiss Distagon 35 mm

ZE 1762-850: 35 mm 2.0 ZE . . . .Fr. 1'369.–
ZE 1771-843: 35 mm 1.4 ZF.2 . . .Fr. 2'358.–

Note the last line! Prices are in Swiss Francs, so the 35/1.4 would have more or less the same price as the 21/2.8.

Jul 28, 2010 at 02:28 PM

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p.29 #18 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

I think you are right:
http://www.hedler.ch/store/artikel.php?artikelID=ZE_1771-843&storeID=60&subID=40

Not sure what to think though - that's definitely not the 35/1.4 pictured as the lowest aperture of that lens on the picutre is f/2.

Jul 28, 2010 at 03:01 PM

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p.29 #19 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

But they have the cheaper 35/2.0 in their list too. So I suppose it is not a false f-number but only the false image - probably the official product images are not available up to now.

Jul 28, 2010 at 04:01 PM

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p.29 #20 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread

OK, I just sent a mail asking for availability of the ZF.2 and a future ZE lens to L+B and will post here, what their answer is.

Jul 28, 2010 at 04:23 PM

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