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p.1 #1 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

Hi FMer !!
Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds?
I normally should portrait my girlfriend and my friend, a bit streetlife and landscape too.So i dont need the speed from my 1D II

My question is, is the IQ from 1Ds much better than my 1D II?
I dont care so much about Iso noiseproblem because im ok with the noise in my 450D and the 1Ds is better

so i dont care...

Any idea??

Nov 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM

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p.1 #2 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

Other pluses and minuses between 1 series bodies, but you'll notice a big jump in IQ in terms of acuity or per pixel sharpness making such a switch. 1Ds series, especially Mk1, have less robust AA filters than the 1D2. Had a 1DMk2 and went to 1Ds Mk1 - night and day in terms of acuity and required level of sharpening to overcome the AA filter. Now use 1DsMk2 (after short side trip to 5D land) and typically only use a light HighPass layer vs USM in PP.

The 4MP CCD-based 1D mk1 has an even weaker AA filter than any of the aforementioned, but of course is 'only' 4 MP.

Nov 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM

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p.1 #3 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

Ditch 1Ds and go with 5D

Nov 18, 2009 at 08:19 PM

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p.1 #4 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

yes........

Nov 18, 2009 at 08:22 PM

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p.1 #5 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

5D may fit you better !

Nov 18, 2009 at 08:38 PM

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p.1 #6 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

I would never recommend a 1DsmkI to anyone. Been there. Hated it even when new. The 1DsmkI has dreadful battery life, poor high iso, slow throughput...aaaacck...hated it. The resolution difference from a 1DsmkI to a 1DmkII is marginal. Now, if you go to a 1DsmkII then yes by all means you will see an image quality improvement and keep the same battery life with the only drawback being slower throughput compared to the 1DmkII (just not as painfully slow as with the 1DsmkI).

Nov 18, 2009 at 11:32 PM

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p.1 #7 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

how is iso noise compare to the 450D or 40D

Nov 19, 2009 at 12:21 AM

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p.1 #8 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

The detail captured by the 1Ds is excellent. Better IQ then the 1DII and 5D. It does eat batteries, 350-500 shots per. It likes to be kept below 400ISO, but still decent at 800. The 1DII does make really nice files with stronger use of USM.

The 1DsII is a solid step up, but also twice the price

Nov 19, 2009 at 02:25 AM

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p.1 #9 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

Mr645 wrote:
The detail captured by the 1Ds is excellent. Better IQ then the 1DII and 5D. It does eat batteries, 350-500 shots per. It likes to be kept below 400ISO, but still decent at 800. The 1DII does make really nice files with stronger use of USM.

The 1DsII is a solid step up, but also twice the price

+1, Get 1Ds if you are 100-400 iso shooter. 1Ds IQ is a special one, i like them better than 5D

Nov 19, 2009 at 03:20 AM

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p.1 #10 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

For 90% coverage of what you're shooting, get 5D or 5D2 if you can afford it.
If not then look at 50D. It's under $1K for used.

Nov 19, 2009 at 09:37 AM

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p.1 #11 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

IMO original 1ds is usable up to ISO 800 (full res) while ISO 1000 & 1250 is good for web view. Files, color & AF is much nicer & accurate than 40D & 50D, screen is bad if you comes from newer camera while battery is dreadful if u keep using the screen to check the photo (if you turn the screen off, the battery life is considerable good)

Large JPEG (unedited & unsharpener) ISO 640 f4.0 1/200 17mm handheld
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Nov 19, 2009 at 11:41 AM

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p.1 #12 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

+1 on all counts.

On the Mk1, it is crucial that as you move off base ISO that your careful about exposing to the right (of the histogram). The file quality from the Mk1 is amazing, BUT the files won't react well to trying to push exposure in post like more modern 5D or 1Ds2 files will. The more careful you are on exposure, the more painlessly you can climb the ISO ladder.

Batteries do get chewed, but not horrible by any means . LCD is tiny and previews slow, but you are buying an earlier gen camera with a slower processor. The trade off is a nice price for amazing shot quality with great per-pixel acuity and (a film-like?) quality from a robust body with a solid fast (I shot soccer for a season with one) AF system (same as 1D, 1D2/N, 1DS2), weather proofing, etc.

Batteries, screens, L plates, etc are all interchangeable between the 1d, 1d2, 1ds1, 1ds2. Give it a clean used one a try - it's not like a another clean 1D2 or ___ will be hard to find if you decide it's not for you and want to change.

Good luck

Mr645 wrote:
The detail captured by the 1Ds is excellent. Better IQ then the 1DII and 5D. It does eat batteries, 350-500 shots per. It likes to be kept below 400ISO, but still decent at 800. The 1DII does make really nice files with stronger use of USM.

The 1DsII is a solid step up, but also twice the price

Nov 19, 2009 at 02:23 PM

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p.1 #13 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

Thx for all ur comment. I will give 1Ds a try....

Nov 19, 2009 at 03:55 PM

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p.1 #14 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

I currently use 1Ds and have to say that the battery is sufficient for my use. I bought a new battery and I can shoot a lot with it the whole day without the need to charge it. This may depend on the weather if it is cold or warm as well. In winter the battery last a bit shorter. But I don't use burst mode so much and I'm not a very "aggressive" shooter. I also turn off the preview screen. Usually look at the shots for exposure/histogram between different lighting/exposure/conditions etc. Its hard to use the screen in order to judge picture sharpness because you can't zoom and the resolution isn't the best.

Its an old model, with old technology but can capture great pictures still. The battery issue may depend on your shooting style.

Hope this helps

pauelv

Nov 19, 2009 at 04:25 PM

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p.1 #15 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

Sure it helps a lot. I dont shoot so much in a day, around 500 pics and they give me 3 akku so i dont think akku is problem

Nov 19, 2009 at 04:51 PM

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p.1 #16 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

You'll also tend to find the low battery indicator has a habit of coming on too early. I've had it come on before the 1/2 of a soccer match, shot some 1/2 time shots and then the rest of the game at same pace and still be operating for post game shots. In short, shoot until it actually dies unless the shots are critical as the meter is likely not calibrated well.

Nov 19, 2009 at 08:23 PM

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p.1 #17 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

pauelv wrote:
I currently use 1Ds and have to say that the battery is sufficient for my use. I bought a new battery and I can shoot a lot with it the whole day without the need to charge it. This may depend on the weather if it is cold or warm as well. In winter the battery last a bit shorter. But I don't use burst mode so much and I'm not a very "aggressive" shooter. I also turn off the preview screen. Usually look at the shots for exposure/histogram between different lighting/exposure/conditions etc. Its hard to use the screen in order to judge picture sharpness because you can't zoom and the resolution isn't the best.

Its an old model, with old technology but can capture great pictures still. The battery issue may depend on your shooting style.

Hope this helps

pauelv

you can zoom it on preview, you can on it under personal setting, it helps a lot to check whether subject in focus or not (especially for large aperture), but 95% of the time its always in focus

Nov 20, 2009 at 02:06 AM

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p.1 #18 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

What? you can do that? lol, I've been shooting 1ds for 3 years now and never knew about this. I have been lousy at reading through the instruction book. But that was probably obvious.

pauelv

Nov 20, 2009 at 06:08 AM

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p.1 #19 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

pauelv wrote:
What? you can do that? lol, I've been shooting 1ds for 3 years now and never knew about this. I have been lousy at reading through the instruction book. But that was probably obvious.

pauelv

Nov 20, 2009 at 09:34 AM

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p.1 #20 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

) lucky that i know that now

Nov 20, 2009 at 12:01 PM

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p.1 #21 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

The battery life thing is relative... After I added a 1Ds to go with my 1D, I was pleasantly supprised on how much BETTER life I got out the 1Ds compared to my trusty 1D.

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Nov 20, 2009 at 09:24 PM

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p.1 #22 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

everyboday says its so terrible

Nov 20, 2009 at 09:43 PM

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p.1 #23 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

mttran wrote:
Get 1Ds if you are 100-400 iso shooter. 1Ds IQ is a special one, i like them better than 5D

+ 1. As long as you properly expose, you'll find exceptional IQ with this body.

Nov 20, 2009 at 09:47 PM

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p.1 #24 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

I should say that I absolutely loved the 1Ds, and that my best photos were taken with it. Granted, that's in good part because I owned it during the peak of my travel days, but still. An amazing camera as long as you stay at 400 or below, and below 30s max exposure time (and even then, better not).

The one actual defect that the 1Ds was famous for was banding. By that I don't mean the "look I can't believe how my ISO 6400 7D shot is banding when shot in the closet" - I mean actually defective sensors that were banding at ISO 100. If you can actually test the camera, shoot an extremely high contrast scene, such as a window in your room, exposed for the highlights (the outside). If you see purple or blue streaks all over the shadow areas of the image, and faint ones even in the highlights, back off.

Only a small number of cameras had this defect, and many people were successful at getting the chip replaced by Canon. I was not, and it drove me nuts, because it would come up even in properly exposed ISO 100 shots. But other than that, kick ass machine. Meh 5D.

Nov 20, 2009 at 10:29 PM

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p.1 #25 · Should i trade my 1D II for 1Ds

I just picked up a 1ds. Sold my 50d. The 1ds is awesome. But I keep hearing iso 400 or less. I shoot raw and properly exposed ISO 1250 shots are great. With todays raw software ISO 800 on the 1ds is noiseless. If I get time I will have to post a series.

Nov 21, 2009 at 01:17 AM


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