thrice wrote:
As for the M9 on ebay, I'm sure someone noted that a scammer would have faked feedback.
Willing to bet $10k? I am not.
Takes little efforts to setup a new account on ebay, while simulating feedback takes time and is certainly not that straight forward. I would not touch that camera even at $1k.
thekrees wrote:
Hey, it's in NZ! Nobody in NZ has an M9. Someone from NZ convince me otherwise.
There are at least 3 that I know of in NZ. One of them belongs to Birgit Krippner
Speaking of M9's, mine is arriving today. I may be the first (at least actively posting) member of the alt forum to have one? Plenty of Leica, Zeiss and Voigtlander glass to be played with
I have a meeting at the Canon office this afternoon at 5pm, if the camera doesn't arrive before 4:30 no way I can take it with If it does I'll charge the battery in the car and show Canon what they should clone.
I've got to work again tomorrow but I might go out and play this evening with the nokton, and then after work tomorrow again since no work on Friday this week So I'll go nuts then.
thrice wrote:
Speaking of M9's, mine is arriving today. I may be the first (at least actively posting) member of the alt forum to have one? Plenty of Leica, Zeiss and Voigtlander glass to be played with
Damn this is one pretty camera... I'm loving the look of silver lenses/accessories on the black paint body. The battery is taking an eternity to charge
git! I had a call from the store yesterday and got all excited, thinking it was there, ready for me to come and collect. But they were just calling to say there was 'no news'....
thrice wrote:
Damn this is one pretty camera... I'm loving the look of silver lenses/accessories on the black paint body. The battery is taking an eternity to charge
brainiac wrote:
I don't know why Leica doesn't auction new M cameras when they come out. I bet there are quite a few who would pay well over the RRP. At some point the average auction price would reach the secret RRP at which point Leica could then issue them to dealers at that price. They would maximise profit that way. Canon has a go at this by sliding the RRP after a few months, but Leica could really rake in the cash due to pent up demand and hysterical desire.
How would their dealer network feel about this ?
tmark wrote:
How would their dealer network feel about this ?
Probably pretty good if they can auction stock through the authorised Leica auction site and share the profits with Leica. It's clear that early adopters are willing to pay extra for the privilege, so who will complain? We see this on auction sites whenever supply of new goods is limited, so why shouldn't dealers and manufacturers join in the fun?
brainiac wrote:
Probably pretty good if they can auction stock through the authorised Leica auction site and share the profits with Leica. It's clear that early adopters are willing to pay extra for the privilege, so who will complain? We see this on auction sites whenever supply of new goods is limited, so why shouldn't dealers and manufacturers join in the fun?
If Leica's auctioning the new cameras, first, as I understood your original post, how are the dealers going to share in the profit ? Is Leica going to split the profits with the dealers based on the number of M9s they *would* have been allocated had Leica decided not to circumvent the existing distribution methods ? Why not just let the dealer mark up the camera for whatever they think they can get for it ?
I don't think any dealer is going to want to sell a product if the company is selling them - and first - through some other channel. They want to be the ones there ready to sell you the extended warranties, the cases, the memory cards, and all the other high margin items that people buy with their cameras. And they want to be the place you go when you really want something. I cannot think of a single product that any company sells ahead of their dealers.
If everybody who really wants an M9 badly buys it from a Leica auction, who is left to sell M9s to ? The people who don't really want them that badly ? That hardly seems like a market a dealer wants to be servicing.
A store auctioning cameras would lose their authorized dealership status. Same applies to Canon and Nikon dealers. Conversely, what value would an authorized dealership status would be worth, if manufacturers sold directly to the public? Besides, their customer base would erode if the these companies exploited supply problems.
OK - sorry I suggested it ;-) Looks like it will just be a few of those speculators at the top of the dealer list who sell NIB versions on ebay at inflated prices then; clearly a better arrangement for all concerned, since profit from unfulfilled demand goes to disinterested and irresponsible 3rd parties.
If it does I'll charge the battery in the car and show Canon what they should clone.
So I'll go nuts then.
