PetKal wrote:
Luis, that's an excellent report of a real case of fungus infestation. Much appreciated. (That must have been a heart breaking discovery...I can imagine it.)
It is a good example...unfortuately, I saw this just before dinner...maybe I'll be hungry later...
globalkiwi wrote:
Why are you persisting with this? You've answered this post already. I simply used the very statistics you quoted to prove that - statistically - NJ is NOT a humid place (average humidity THIS October was 50%). You seem incapable of accepting this. If you don't want to deal with rational fact-based argument fine, as I said earlier, get yourself a dehummidifer & be happy. I'm not interested in pursuing this any further.
Ye right and temperature -45F why would I argue about? Actually how long you been leaving in NJ/NY area?
cgardner wrote:
Not to worry, you have an early warning system: you'll start growing fungus and mold before the camera does because you are a better growth medium
You should worry more about what happens in winter when you bring your freezing cold camera from outdoors into the warmer air indoors. The moisture from the higher relative humidity indoors can cause condensation inside the lens and other camera surfaces. For that reason its best to seal the camera in an airtight bag and let its temperature reach that of the room before opening and operating. Same for stuff fresh off the UPS truck in January. ...Show more →
It doesn't have to be airtight. Air moves by convection, and there isn't any convection going on inside a camera bag (or a camera body). You can let the camera stay in the bag until it warms by conduction, then take it out and put it on a shelf.
Breitling65 wrote:
I am sure that I never been in worse/humid/rainy weather as last Sat night for 10 years I am in NJ. It was also last day of October!!! with 73F outside 7PM.
And believe me I been in Florida and I know what is humid means.
it was pretty nasty indeed and there sure has been bad mold here this year, but believe me it is nothing like it was in NC, miasmatic swamp down there, don't ever live there if you are prone to asthma (since you will sudenly develop it out and out) or have terrible allergies in NJ since in NC you will barely be able to function.
pretty much every night you can see mist in the air around lights and winter is very raw, not nearly as cold, but much moisture and more raw feeling and nasty down there in that sense and frost forms on windshields every night due to all the humidity, even in winter.
globalkiwi wrote:
Why are you persisting with this? You've answered this post already. I simply used the very statistics you quoted to prove that - statistically - NJ is NOT a humid place (average humidity THIS October was 50%). You seem incapable of accepting this. If you don't want to deal with rational fact-based argument fine, as I said earlier, get yourself a dehummidifer & be happy. I'm not interested in pursuing this any further.
parts of NJ can be pretty humid during certain times of the year, it really is not what you can call a dry air area, but there are worse places like Florida, Lousiana, North Carolina for humidity, heck even D.C. is definitely worse
I was just quoting the weather stats Breitling linked, average humidity in October 2009 was 50% - admittedly it's likely higher in summer - but compared to many parts of the US (let alone the tropics) it's just not that humid.
globalkiwi wrote:
I was just quoting the weather stats Breitling linked, average humidity in October 2009 was 50% - admittedly it's likely higher in summer - but compared to many parts of the US (let alone the tropics) it's just not that humid.
Wow, he still arguing ... Amazing!!! I asked you: "How long you are staying in NJ?" Or you actually wish to read that page I linked in normal way not the number you found that looks good to you?
skibum5 wrote:
parts of NJ can be pretty humid during certain times of the year, it really is not what you can call a dry air area, but there are worse places like Florida, Lousiana, North Carolina for humidity, heck even D.C. is definitely worse
globalkiwi wrote:
I was just quoting the weather stats Breitling linked, average humidity in October 2009 was 50% - admittedly it's likely higher in summer - but compared to many parts of the US (let alone the tropics) it's just not that humid.
Ok, let us see what we have here:
(1) Breitling is concerned about the humidity effect on his lenses in his NJ home.
(2) He has been doing something already to mitigate the concern.
(2) He posts his concerns in hope of getting some practical feedback he could perhaps use.
Now, I totally fail to see the point of belabouring a contention that NJ is not so humid, and that there are parts of the world that are much more laden with air moisture.
My point wasn't to belabor anything, I simply started out trying to reassure him that in NJ humidity is not as big a concern as the last few weeks weather might suggest. Plus, I was citing the stats he linked - which suggest the same thing: no big cause for worry. But if you guys wish to encourage him to spend money & worry unnecessarily so be it. This has been blown out of all proportion.
skibum5 wrote:
parts of NJ can be pretty humid during certain times of the year, it really is not what you can call a dry air area, but there are worse places like Florida, Lousiana, North Carolina for humidity, heck even D.C. is definitely worse
Not this time of year its not. Regardless it doesn't take very much to avoid lens fungus living in the NY/NJ area year round, in fact all you need is a relatively dry place to put your equipment in the summer months. Its just not a problem here.
globalkiwi wrote:
My point wasn't to belabor anything, I simply started out trying to reassure him that in NJ humidity is not as big a concern as the last few weeks weather might suggest. Plus, I was citing the stats he linked - which suggest the same thing: no big cause for worry. But if you guys wish to encourage him to spend money & worry unnecessarily so be it. This has been blown out of all proportion.
No, sorry, you did not "simply started to...".....you've kept posting over and over again essentially the same thing despite the response he's been giving you. That's what's called "belabouring".
PetKal wrote:
No, sorry, you did not "simply started to...".....you've kept posting over and over again essentially the same thing despite the response he's been giving you. That's what's called "belabouring".
He don't even read what this post is about, I specified long ago that box already at home sucking water He just need to continue arguing in any post he is participating ...
Unfortunatly I am not right person to let this go his way!!! Actually same story with mister Vers, he know about already ...
And his posts could be labeled "denial" in that he continued to insist that black was in fact white. But how does this concern you? You don't live in either NY or NJ & certainly don't seem to be adding anything of value here.
M Vers wrote:
Not this time of year its not. Regardless it doesn't take very much to avoid lens fungus living in the NY/NJ area year round, in fact all you need is a relatively dry place to put your equipment in the summer months. Its just not a problem here.
globalkiwi wrote:
And his posts could be labeled "denial" in that he continued to insist that black was in fact white. But how does this concern you? You don't live in either NY or NJ & certainly don't seem to be adding anything of value here.
Learn to read First and post response Second. Not wise versa!!!
Breitling65 wrote:
I guess we need your help here?
I've lived in the lower NY area for my entire life and can say humidity+heat is not a large enough concern when speaking of lens fungus. As long as you store your gear in a logical place(s) you need not worry. Having said that, frankly I could care less what you waste your money on...that's your choice. The only reason I commented is to make sure people who live in conditions like this understand its not an issue.
Move to california - epuja
but then you'll encountered the "fungus" politician, which their tax & spend will eventually cost you more than a lens with fungus
Seriously, in the 70s, when I first started learning photography, I had to take 1 month lesson, just to learn how to operate a camera AND how to help keep it on shooting forever (relative speaking here), and one of which was my teacher showed us to build a simple wooden box, big enough for a body and few lens. The lid has a tiny hole and is connected to a 5w light bub, provide enough dry heat which will keep my gear dry each night, even during the yearly rainy season in Vietnam. I always either shoot the whole roll of film within a day or 2, never left it in the camera for long period of time, which the film's chemical will eventually leak out, thus compound the fungus problem even more, since then I never have any fungus problem ever since. Of course, digital camera has less chance with fungus than camera with film.
Now with the portable solar device, the same unit can be setup anywhere.
M Vers wrote:
I've lived in the lower NY area for my entire life and can say humidity+heat is not a huge concern when speaking of lens fungus. As long as you store your gear in a logical place(s) you need not worry. Having said that, frankly I could care less what you waste your money on...that's your choice. The only reason I commented is to make sure people who live in conditions like this understand its not an issue.
No doubt 24 is long time Vers, I am in this area a bit less 17 years however post is not about your entire life or mine 17 years here in NY/NJ.
It is about general/global weather changes happened lately for planet Earth and 73F October 31 and in general question about protecting gear not covered by insurance for mold issues. Also about interesting fungus experience people having around globe with shots, did you saw them?
I am sure you read all this before posting same as g...kiwi!!!
Breitling65 wrote:
No doubt 24 is long time Vers, I am in this area a bit less 17 years however post is not about your entire life or mine 17 years here in NY/NJ.
It is about general/global weather changes happened lately for planet Earth and 73F October 31 and in general question about protecting gear not covered by insurance for mold issues. Also about interesting fungus experience people having around globe with shots, did you saw them?
I am sure you read all this before posting same as g...kiwi!!!
the global warming card. Oh boy. Again, if it makes you feel better by all means spend your money where you will, all I'm saying is it's a waste.
why would I argue about? Actually how long you been leaving in NJ/NY area? 
the global warming card. Oh boy. Again, if it makes you feel better by all means spend your money where you will, all I'm saying is it's a waste.