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p.3 #1 · 51 pt 3D tracking

Well, I thought WB was fixable. In this case it wasn't. I don't usually convert them as is to jpeg.

I had to this time because my editing software was incapable of the fix and didn't recognize the fixes of ViewNX.

I've shot 30,000 - 40,000 images in NEF. So I do have some experience with it. It seems I have a problem with the hardware. I forget to review my initial settings.

further on... PP can't always fix blown highlights and now I know it can't always fix WB (in 3rd party software)

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Nov 11, 2009 at 11:32 PM

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p.3 #2 · 51 pt 3D tracking

i have tried it often, and in most of my daily shooting situations (18-85mm primes, day to day stuff) it is not fast enough to keep up. When i shoot something like surfing or cars with my crappy 70-300g zoom, it is amazing.

This is almost the opposite of my experiences with the Canon 1D and 1DmkII i had previously. I say almost, because the AF on those always worked haha.

Nov 12, 2009 at 12:04 AM

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p.3 #3 · 51 pt 3D tracking

So, you are saying that you had the NEF in View, changed the WB and then Converted the file to JPEG and Picassa didn't see it?

The reason I ask, is you also stated that you had to delete the RAW files from Picassa. Did you uncheck the RAW box in Picassa?

The beauty of NEF, is you can never really get the WB wrong, because you can always change it. When you state that the NEF files were bad and you deleted them, was it because you had the WB set different from the ambient light that you thought they were bad?

I don't think you have a hardware problem. It seems that Picassa does not handle RAW very well and that has messed up your workflow in this situation.

Next time, try the demo for Capture or the LR3 beta and see if you get better results.

Nov 12, 2009 at 02:58 PM

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p.3 #4 · 51 pt 3D tracking

Back to focus:

I read the links that were posted and I have a question for those that use the AF/ON button as the sole AF activation. Do you set your AF priority (a1 and a2) to Release?

The reason I ask is, if you don't, then the feature of using AF/ON and then recomposing the frame doesn't work if you have priority set to Focus.

Nov 12, 2009 at 03:04 PM

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p.3 #5 · 51 pt 3D tracking

Rags Hef wrote:
Well, I thought WB was fixable. In this case it wasn't. I don't usually convert them as is to jpeg.

I had to this time because my editing software was incapable of the fix and didn't recognize the fixes of ViewNX.

I've shot 30,000 - 40,000 images in NEF. So I do have some experience with it. It seems I have a problem with the hardware. I forget to review my initial settings.

further on... PP can't always fix blown highlights and now I know it can't always fix WB (in 3rd party software)

Rags

Well, I guess then it was the choice of your RAW software. RAW software should not be saving changes to the RAW unless you ask it to. It's supposed to put the deltas in a meta-file or some internal meta-file. Anyway, I guess the problem is that particular RAW converter software. I use either Capture One LE 3.7 (90%+) or Capture NX for RAW editing. I find C1LE very fast to use.

Yes, you're right that shooting RAW can't always fix blown higlights, but it does give you that extra bit of headroom.

BTW, that shot you posted with the wrong WB is stellar. It looks awesome (even if it's "wrong").

Nov 12, 2009 at 03:52 PM

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p.3 #6 · 51 pt 3D tracking

MX727 wrote:
So, you are saying that you had the NEF in View, changed the WB and then Converted the file to JPEG and Picassa didn't see it?

*** No. Picassa saw both But rejected corrections made in View

The reason I ask, is you also stated that you had to delete the RAW files from Picassa. Did you uncheck the RAW box in Picassa?

*** I didn't have to. I didn't think there was a good reason to keep faulty files
There is a RAW box in Picassa? I didn't know that, thanks for the tip.

The beauty of NEF, is you can never really get the WB wrong, because you can always change it. When you state that the NEF files were bad and you deleted them, was it because you had the WB set different from the ambient light that you thought they were bad?

*** I mistakenly had the WB set to incandescent... my bad.

I don't think you have a hardware problem.

*** Nah. I have a mental problem. I just have to remember to check my shooting bank selection before shooting.

It seems that Picassa does not handle RAW very well and that has messed up your workflow in this situation.

*** Picassa has improved raw handling in Picassa3.

Next time, try the demo for Capture or the LR3 beta and see if you get better results.

*** I have LR 1.4. Nice functions for work flow, but it doesn't handle D700 NEF. I tried Capture NX and it wasn't intuitive for me.

Thanks for your thoughtful response.

Rags

Nov 12, 2009 at 04:02 PM

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p.3 #7 · 51 pt 3D tracking

Avi B wrote:
BTW, that shot you posted with the wrong WB is stellar. It looks awesome (even if it's "wrong").

Happened to me once too. Shot a polar bear underwater at the San Diego Zoo, face up with three paws touching the surface. Printed the picture all blue and hung it upside down, looked like the bear was walking on water... way cool. Then I had a lab print it, and they "fixed" the WB. Made the shot mundane as all hell. Color effects are sometimes very nice.

Mentioned it before too... that "Surfer Blue" shot is extraordinary as-is, at least partly because of the blue, not in spite of it.

Nov 12, 2009 at 05:22 PM


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