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Craig Gowens wrote:
I The opening size and the angle of view would conform to...wait for it, a sensor size of approximately 49.8x33.2mm. SMALL MEDIUM FORMAT! Canon 645?!?!
I wouldn't be surprised if Canon have a MF body full of Canon electronics just as a method of exploring options of new markets.

Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't 14mm on medium format be the equivalent to something like 9mm in an fullframe format. Am I the only one who thinks that Canon won't be launching a MF camera with a 9mm equivalent lens?

Nov 03, 2009 at 09:49 PM

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p.4 #2 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

Rather than starting a new thread I figured I'd post this here. Included are what looks like patents for a 14-24/2.8 (as seen in the OP), 60/2.8 IS macro and a 70-200/2.8 IS II.

Dec 06, 2009 at 09:12 PM

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p.4 #3 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

Ed Sawyer wrote:
Check this patent out:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=lbTIAAAAEBAJ

Could be something like a 14-24L zoom maybe? Hard to say but the specs suggest something along those lines. Diagram-wise its' quite close to the 14L and 17-TSE, but it doesn't match either one, and they specifically show a couple of zoom implemenations...

Something to think about...

-Ed

far LESS interesting is STILL no hint of a 24-70 IS

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Dec 07, 2009 at 12:34 AM

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p.4 #4 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

fotojeroen wrote:
O, please don't make this EF-S.
I'll kick my wide angle right out if this apear on the market, but I can't mount a EF-S

they already have the 10-22 EF-S

this is the FF version

Dec 07, 2009 at 12:45 AM

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p.4 #5 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

jcolwell wrote:
I'm hoping it will be full frame and affordable, whatever that means. OTOH, if the memory module designated as Item 23 on Figure 11 is a CF card, then it's probably for a credit card-sized P&S. Just kidding...

P.S. Ed, do you spend a lot of time browsing optical system patents?

it will be FF

it won't be affordable

if it ever exists at all

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Dec 07, 2009 at 12:46 AM

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That's possible, but with the very good 10-22 already out there, this would be somewhat redundant.

Well..a lot of the EF-S line seems redundant.

True, but a lot of it is to replace previous lenses. The 15-85 is replacing the 17-85. The original 18-55 was replaced with a Mk II. Then again, there are at least 3 18-XX lenses at this time, along with the 17-55 and the new 15-85. So, I suppose that they could duplicate the 10-22, though it would seem much more useful if they produced a nice ultrawide full-frame zoom that could benefit both formats.

I know that as the owner of a 5D2 and a 7D, that would make me happy!

but the 17-85 was horrible and the original kit lens wasn't astonishing

the 10-22 is fairly well regarded considering it is an ultra-wide

and the FF needs this sort of lens more

and Nikon made a FF one

Dec 07, 2009 at 12:47 AM

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p.4 #7 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

robstein wrote:
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jcolwell wrote:and affordable

I wouldn't hold my breath!

Well it's relative right... I'm sure all this stuff is "affordable" for Bill Gates (possibly even disposable)... for the rest of us... well

indeed

he doesn't believe in using filter and he doesn't believe in dust

he pops on a fresh copy after each shot (yes shot, not shoot)

Dec 07, 2009 at 12:49 AM

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p.4 #8 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

Pixel Perfect wrote:
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the 24-70 will always be huge.

have you ever picked up a nikon 14-24 2.8? it ain't exactly a lightweight.

But as Tamron and Sigma have shown, it doesn't have to be as huge. They are as good optically despite their smaller sizes, especially the Tamron. It's a 28mm not 24mm, but the 28-70L isn't much smaller than the 24-70L.

tamron used extra-refractive glass in those

i'm not canon has ever used that sort

Dec 07, 2009 at 01:02 AM

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p.4 #9 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

Craig Gowens wrote:
a full frame sensor, but something is definitely up with the 20-24mm. The opening size and the angle of view would conform to...wait for it, a sensor size of approximately 49.8x33.2mm. SMALL MEDIUM FORMAT! Canon 645?!?!

or a tilt, shift AND zoom haha

or they wanted to get really low vignetting on FF

Dec 07, 2009 at 01:05 AM

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p.4 #10 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

dolina wrote:
I saw a drawing of a point and shoot... could this be a diagram for point and shoot lens?

that's a stand in for a possible camera types

Dec 07, 2009 at 01:05 AM

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p.4 #11 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

Dawei Ye wrote:
Jos Tesseract wrote:

You wouldn't [except in low-light conditions, shooting hand-held] but that doesn't mean Canon won't put it there. If it means they can make a couple hundred dollars more, using existing technology, why not?

I think Wide Angles are one class of lens that are really crying out for IS. Their very nature (to get wide encompassing scenes) means that you often have to stop them down to get DOF...meaning less light...meaning greater chance of motion blur. I think (and hope) it's only a matter of time.

Another class of lenses that need IS are things like the 24L, 35L, 85L, 135L. Those are really crying out for IS. The 85L and 135L are impaired in their low light function simply by the need to get high shutter speeds like 1/100

As identified though, there are some possible technical reasons why it is not feasible at this time to give them IS.

If we really are looking for lenses where IS is useless, I would daresay lenses like the 600L IS or 800L IS, which would be crazy to handhold...but that would be my ignorance speaking. Users of those lenses may very well utilise the IS in those lenses too!

Bring on (optional) Body IS

most of those lenses would be hard to fit IS into
and hard to design well

Dec 07, 2009 at 01:08 AM

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p.4 #12 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

Not interested in a 14-24 if you can't put a filter on it.

Dec 07, 2009 at 02:34 AM

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p.4 #13 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

Funny that a so-called rumor/news site is reporting old news a month and a half or more old, that has already been reported here on the forums.

. Get your news here at FM first! ;-)

Dec 07, 2009 at 03:05 AM

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p.4 #14 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

Ed Sawyer wrote:
Funny that a so-called rumor/news site is reporting old news a month and a half or more old, that has already been reported here on the forums.

. Get your news here at FM first! ;-)

you posted the patents for the 70-200II and 60IS in here? I must have missed them

Dec 07, 2009 at 12:46 PM

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p.4 #15 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

No, for the 14-24 and a couple others.

Dec 07, 2009 at 06:12 PM

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p.4 #16 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

Ed Sawyer wrote:
No, for the 14-24 and a couple others.

IIRC they had it posted around the same time you posted this, now they have come across the '60IS' and '70-200II' patents so I believe they just figured they'd post them all together. Just a thought.

Dec 07, 2009 at 06:29 PM

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p.4 #17 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

cgardner wrote:
Check out Figure 11 in the documentation for a hint at what the next camera Pro body will look like

look like my radio from 1970s

Dec 08, 2009 at 07:43 AM

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p.4 #18 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

This would be great if it were comparable to the Nikon offering. Canon, please build this, we are starving for a killer superwide!

Dec 08, 2009 at 02:27 PM

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p.4 #19 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

Pixel Perfect wrote:
Not interested in a 14-24 if you can't put a filter on it.

My immediate interest in the Nikon 14-24 plummeted when I held it in the store and saw there was no way to use, or even jury-rig, a filter (this was when it was first available). I may be mistaken, but I think I remember that Singh-Ray (SR) was rumored to be working on a solution. This may have been wishful thinking as there's nothing on the site to lead me to think it's true.

I guess you never know. Certainly Nikon people have to be dismayed too; a great lens handicapped to being used in good/great conditions only. A shame...

Dec 08, 2009 at 04:23 PM

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p.4 #20 · New Canon 14-24L? interesting patent...

Pell wrote:
This would be great if it were comparable to the Nikon offering. Canon, please build this, we are starving for a killer superwide!

Not cheap but the 17 TS-E is a killer superwide

Dec 08, 2009 at 05:59 PM


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