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legalhack
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p.1 #1 · face

Any help on this pic would be greatly appreciated! thanks

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Oct 28, 2009 at 02:10 PM

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p.1 #2 · face

For me, the expression is not all that flattering.

Oct 28, 2009 at 03:54 PM

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p.1 #3 · face

What do you wish to accomplish?

Oct 28, 2009 at 05:36 PM

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p.1 #4 · face

I dont get anything from the picture. Perhaps it is the expression, any ideas on how to make the skin smoother?

Oct 28, 2009 at 05:50 PM

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p.1 #5 · face

One technique I use for removing small wrinkles and blemishes if to use the clone stamp in PS. with modest opacity and moderate flow, displacing the stamp slightly and frequently selecting new source. Unfortunately, it won't un-squint her eyes.

Oct 28, 2009 at 06:41 PM

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p.1 #6 · face

I like the portrait, although I agree with most comments made here, including the
squinting of the eyes.

I am not sure that I would totally eliminate the wrinkles. They give character. I
would just soften up the skin a tad and would sharpen the eyes also slightly.
I would also touch the color of lipstick a tad more.

2008 © Kaden K.

Edited on Oct 29, 2009 at 01:15 AM · View previous versions

Oct 29, 2009 at 12:59 AM

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p.1 #7 · face

I dont have the skill to fix it, but the skin color appears somewhat mottled, as if the make up is not well and evenly applied.
Sccott

Oct 29, 2009 at 01:05 AM

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p.1 #8 · face

Here is a softer version. Notice that improves any skin blotching around the neck.

2008 © Kaden K.

Oct 29, 2009 at 01:18 AM

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p.1 #9 · face

Kaden did a good job reducing the scowl lines between her brows. I'd suggest reducing the inner eye shadows on either side of her nose as well.

Oct 29, 2009 at 01:31 AM

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p.1 #10 · face

Yeah, she does look more relaxed.

Oct 29, 2009 at 01:33 AM

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p.1 #11 · face

Kaden, that looks great, can you share how you softened the skin?

Oct 29, 2009 at 02:05 AM

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p.1 #12 · face

Here's a version with only about three minutes of clone stamp smoothing. Notice the inner eye shadow reduction and some lip line revision. All changes were clone stamp work, but looking back, I may have started with Kaden's first version by mistake.

Notice that scowl tension reduction and lip line revision changes her expression, despite her squint.

P.S. Plus another 20 seconds of clone stamp smoothing of her neck.

2008 © AuntiPode

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Oct 29, 2009 at 02:13 AM

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p.1 #13 · face

Here is my version with real smoth skin texture:

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Oct 29, 2009 at 02:23 AM

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p.1 #14 · face

For some reason on my monitor you version seems to have acquired some sort of texture rather than smoothing.

Oct 29, 2009 at 02:25 AM

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p.1 #15 · face

AuntiPode wrote:
For some reason on my monitor you version seems to have acquired some sort of texture rather than smoothing.

Yes, perhaps I over did it a little with the texture. But that was the idea of adding texture on the skin, to look like real pores. By adding this texture it makes the skin look more natural, clean and smooth. Too much smoothing doens't look real.

Her wrinkles were just removed a little, so will still look like her, and her eyes brightened a little bit.

She is a pretty lady !

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Oct 29, 2009 at 02:41 AM

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p.1 #16 · face

jlandaue I like the idea that you retouched the left bottom of the neck.

As to the usage of the term "real" it lost all the luster for me. Just like
in the REAL America and the REAL Americans...

Oct 29, 2009 at 02:42 AM

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p.1 #17 · face

Kaden K. wrote:
jlandaue I like the idea that you retouched the left bottom of the neck.

As to the usage of the term "real" it lost all the luster for me. Just like
in the REAL America and the REAL Americans...

I agree, how about using the term: REALISTIC

Oct 29, 2009 at 02:45 AM

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p.1 #18 · face

Any portrait photographer can tell you, "real" is over-rated. Most women prefer a kinder vision.

Oct 29, 2009 at 02:47 AM

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p.1 #19 · face

Darn, I just saw AuntiPode's plastic surgery on my image. Wow!!!

She lost at least 5/7 years.

Oct 29, 2009 at 02:51 AM

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p.1 #20 · face

Legalhack I used Noise Ninja. Sometimes I use Nik Software for it.
The rest is as explained on the initial post.

Oct 29, 2009 at 02:53 AM

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p.1 #21 · face

Antipode. I like that, I tried the clone stamp but I must be using it wrongly because it came out even more blotchy.

Oh, I see the texture too.

Oct 29, 2009 at 02:55 AM

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p.1 #22 · face

AuntiPode wrote:
Any portrait photographer can tell you, "real" is over-rated. Most women prefer a kinder vision.

I agree, most women prefer the Photoshop look, however my wife sometimes ask me in the morning if she had put too much make up. I guess that she prefers to have a more realistic skin. Just enought to show the smooth pores, and even skin.

Oct 29, 2009 at 02:57 AM

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p.1 #23 · face

Years ago, when I made my living doing portrait work, the single question most often asked by adult women was:

"Can you remove those lines?"

Somehow I doubt human nature has changed.

Oh how I wish I'd had the power of Photoshop back in the day. Color re-touching was expensive and the lab turn-around times, glacial. (I never learned the brush skills.)

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Oct 29, 2009 at 02:59 AM

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p.1 #24 · face

I see your point Jlandaue. This is also a larger question about whether or not
there is such a thing as "realistic" photography since unless you are making
pinhole images, all images are mediated. Even film has to be processed w/
chemicals even if done in camera obscura.

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Oct 29, 2009 at 03:02 AM

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p.1 #25 · face

My version of the skin was done with Topaz Labs. One of the plugin they have is "Topaz Clean 2" and it has a setting for sking textures.

Edited on Oct 29, 2009 at 03:05 AM · View previous versions

Oct 29, 2009 at 03:03 AM


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