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http://www.phaseone.com/

Have been using it all morning. So far without doubt the best conversions I have ever seen.

Mighty impressive

David

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:28 AM
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Thanks, has it changed much from 4.8?

Oct 28, 2009 at 11:22 AM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Thanks, has it changed much from 4.8?


Some very good new features like being able to see instantly (from thumbnail or main image) whether your shots are sharp, brilliant for scanning a load of shots. It also now has spot removal like LR

The sharpening algorythms are fantastic, the best I've seen, as it the colour reproduction.

I went off C1 Pro after version 3.7, but this is really good (and stable so far)

Cost me about 90 euros to upgrade from version 4, not bad

David

Oct 28, 2009 at 11:39 AM
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Thanks for the heads-up David - that's my night sorted!

Oct 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM
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keithreeder wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up David - that's my night sorted!


Half my day so far & still practising

It's a real challenge to LR 2.5. So far, IMHO C1_5 is better (or at least the conversions are). I'm getting sharpness out of old 10D and 1D2 portraits without post processing in PS that I've never seen before

Oct 28, 2009 at 12:28 PM
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I've always rated C1 significantly higher than ACR/Lr in terms of IQ - I mean miles ahead - and it looks like this trend continues.

That said, LR 3 is looking very good, and - at the moment anyway - Bibble 5 Preview is giving me the best conversions in terms of sharpness and detail that I've ever seen.

Decisions, decisions!

I still expect C1 to the best in high ISO noise terms though.

Must admit that I'm a bit puzzled by the upgrade pricing though - it looks like there's no upgrade path from Cap One 4 standard to Cap One 5 standard.



Oct 28, 2009 at 12:47 PM
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I'm not at all sure I'm right here, but I think Bibble and C1 are the only RAW converters that don't just use the Canon SDK? So the conversions actually ARE different from the others

C1 3.x used to be my favourite before LR was updated, but now I'm thinking differently

Oct 28, 2009 at 12:59 PM
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I seem to be having trouble loading up there site, Does anyone know if a basic C14 can be upgraded to the pro5 version and the cost involved in US dollars. Thanks, Ron

Found it on RG's site they had a break down of the cost, Looks like from C14 basic to Pro5 is 299 US

Oct 28, 2009 at 01:11 PM
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kazman442 wrote:

Does anyone know if a basic C14 can be upgraded to the pro5 version and the cost involved in US dollars. Thanks, Ron

Found it on RG's site they had a break down of the cost, Looks like from C14 basic to Pro5 is 299 US


Yep, that's a bit steep, IMHO...

Oct 28, 2009 at 01:49 PM
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I bought C1 4 and was bitterly disappointed by the extremely slow finding of files, and the fact that it wouldn't keep previews...took forever to browse to a different folder. Made the whole thing more or less useless for me.

Lightroom, on the other hand, made my job easier. Provided the full version of LR3 will update my LR2 catalog (the beta won't) so I don't lose my photo settings, keywords and ratings, I'll upgrade to LR3. I feel like I threw my money away with C1 4, so I'm not inclined to give Phase One more money at this time.

Oct 28, 2009 at 02:09 PM
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Lr is certainly a better file handler/DAM app than Cap One 4, but the IQ superiority of Cap One wins every time for me.

Oct 28, 2009 at 02:14 PM
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keithreeder wrote:
Lr is certainly a better file handler/DAM app than Cap One 4, but the IQ superiority of Cap One wins every time for me.


That's exactly my finding. I combine the two together; LR for file handling and I reserve C 1 for conversion of selected images only. This will be my last free major upgrade after I bought the license a few years back; I have to fork out more $$ for Version 6.

Oct 28, 2009 at 03:30 PM
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Jman13 wrote:
I bought C1 4 and was bitterly disappointed by the extremely slow finding of files, and the fact that it wouldn't keep previews...took forever to browse to a different folder. Made the whole thing more or less useless for me.

Lightroom, on the other hand, made my job easier. Provided the full version of LR3 will update my LR2 catalog (the beta won't) so I don't lose my photo settings, keywords and ratings, I'll upgrade to LR3. I feel like I threw my money away with C1 4, so I'm not inclined to give Phase One more money at this time.


The final version of LR3 will be able to upgrade existing catalogs. They didn't put the upgrade feature in the LR2 beta either.

Oct 28, 2009 at 04:36 PM
 



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Keep an eye on Bibble 5 for DAM functionality too - they're making a big play into that arena - and they're also introducing a lot of LR-style editing functions like layers, local adjustment brushes and the like.

It's a strong move into Lr territory, and at a lower price.

And as I say, so far the quality of sharpening I'm seeing from Bibble 5 Preview has got me hooked in itself.

Oct 28, 2009 at 05:00 PM
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sadly the PRO version is not available at the trial link, or perhaps im missing something?

Oct 28, 2009 at 05:03 PM
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There is only one version to download. The license determines the functionality.

What I would like to understand is why the C1 web site has practically come to a halt.



Oct 28, 2009 at 05:40 PM
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I can't access the site at all at the moment. Overloaded with traffic?

Oct 28, 2009 at 05:53 PM
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That'd be my guess - I can't get in now either.

Oct 28, 2009 at 06:32 PM
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Since the site isn't working ... did anyone notice if the new version supports the 7D?

EDIT: Found a comment on DPreview that says it does support 7D.



Oct 28, 2009 at 06:41 PM
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UCSB wrote:
Since the site isn't working ... did anyone notice if the new version supports the 7D?

EDIT: Found a comment on DPreview that says it does support 7D.


Yes

Oct 28, 2009 at 06:43 PM
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The site is up again

Oct 28, 2009 at 06:45 PM
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I've been reconverting files in C1 version 5 all day (not working today) and the conversions ARE the best I've seen. No question.

It's a really good converter.

Oct 28, 2009 at 06:48 PM
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Downloading as we speak...

Oct 28, 2009 at 06:48 PM
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Anybody fancy posting up some comparisons? I'm on 4.8 at the moment.

Oct 28, 2009 at 07:18 PM
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Well, based on brief initial testing/comparison I'd say that IQ was about the same as I see from 4.8.1, Adrian - very good, and better than pretty much anything else - but for my stuff (birds with a 40D) I'm still going to give the nod to Bibble 5.

Oct 28, 2009 at 07:49 PM




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