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p.2 #1 · D800/D700s

DavidWEGS wrote:
I want a D700s with dual cards and the iso of the D3s. Bring it.

+1

Nikon please do not ignore that man

Not all of want to carry a full sized body, not all of us want more than 12mp for shoots with 2k images, not all of us want to deal with storing 24mp NEF files.

Oct 29, 2009 at 06:41 PM

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p.2 #2 · D800/D700s

Much agreed with Jammy. No one seems to talk about the hard drive space and computing power necessary for 24 mpx files.

Oct 29, 2009 at 07:29 PM

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p.2 #3 · D800/D700s

why is that such a setback? Sure, some cost may be involved, maybe not, many people already have plenty of drive space and computing power. I saw an HP quad core 2.6 with 8 gigs of ram, giant video, and giant hard drive for $750, and for $499 with 6 gigs of ram. Also, I saw a terabyte WD Book external for $79 at Best Buy.

For the cost of a consumer grade lens one can get what once was considered a super computer. Oh yes, and that includes a large LCD HD monitor.

Oct 29, 2009 at 08:16 PM

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p.2 #4 · D800/D700s

I've filled 1tb of space this year already, for backup and storage that's at least 2tb. That's with 12mp 12-bit NEF files.

I can't think of anything nice to say about an off the shelf HP other than... Yep it's cheap.

Oct 29, 2009 at 08:57 PM

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p.2 #5 · D800/D700s

it sure is, it is not a Mac with the aluminum cover and high price tag, and mouse that lacks any sense of ergonomics, but hey, it is a PC and a lot cheaper. Thus far the couple of HP PC's we have at the house have not faltered. The best PC of all time has been an old $399 E-Machine that has an ASUS motherboard. It has lasted so long - 4 years - that gees, it is almost like a Mac, and is still working.

I am not concerned about buying a powerhouse PC for well under $1k.

peace on!

Oct 29, 2009 at 09:03 PM

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p.2 #6 · D800/D700s

Except that it doesn't have OS X, which is a must for many of us.

Oct 29, 2009 at 10:00 PM

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p.2 #7 · D800/D700s

Uh oh, assuming 'many of us' 'think OS X is a must have'. Yeah...

Think it might be time for a poll on what OS you use..

Oct 29, 2009 at 10:05 PM

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p.2 #8 · D800/D700s

Gregory.Rotter wrote:
Uh oh, assuming 'many of us' 'think OS X is a must have'. Yeah...

Think it might be time for a poll on what OS you use..

Edit: I didn't realize you were actually serious about the OS poll. Sorry man

I voted!

Oct 29, 2009 at 10:26 PM

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p.2 #9 · D800/D700s

i got my D700 and i will not move anywhere at this point.

next upgrade will be when D4 comes out or something of that like.
at this point everything else is just a waist of time.... better get out there and shoot.

p.s.
maybe will just buy leica M9 and will be over with it all

Nov 01, 2009 at 11:58 PM

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p.2 #10 · D800/D700s

jamach wrote:
why is that such a setback? Sure, some cost may be involved, maybe not, many people already have plenty of drive space and computing power. I saw an HP quad core 2.6 with 8 gigs of ram, giant video, and giant hard drive for $750, and for $499 with 6 gigs of ram. Also, I saw a terabyte WD Book external for $79 at Best Buy.

For the cost of a consumer grade lens one can get what once was considered a super computer. Oh yes, and that includes a large LCD HD monitor.

read the part about backup storage, and realize that they were using a D2x,1dsmk2,1dmk3and 5d, so the mp's are still pretty low. If you shot that much with a 24-5 mp camera it would get ridiculous quick

The whole article how ever is a good read, I especially like how he keeps talking about the shots he missed that he couldn't get that the guy in his group with the D2x and 200-400vr got.
http://luminous-landscape.com/essays/Safari-Tips.shtml

Nov 02, 2009 at 12:15 AM

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p.2 #11 · D800/D700s

Still, not a big issue, a terabyte goes for about a hundred bucks.

Oh, excuse me, don't look at high megapixel cameras because you might need a hundred dollar hard drive, eh?

Geees

Joe

Nov 02, 2009 at 01:00 AM

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p.2 #12 · D800/D700s

Probably before your time, but I do remember the days when those speed boys would have a camera bag full of 24 count film because the plastic on 36's was thinner, so they carried a bag full, and were real proud they could rapid fire away a roll in a couple of seconds. So there I was with my pentax 6x7 rapid firing away manually by hand the 12 shots, then reloading again before it was all over. Yes, the emulsion or something was supposed to be thinner in the 220 film so I did not use it.

Looks like each age has their own concerns, but similar issues. Oh yes. slide film please, so I can do Cibachromes later and not worry about storage of film strips, cutting, and labeling envelopes, and internegatives to print. The slides also made pretty scans. And hopefully the file cabinet would not catch on fire should the office go up in flames, because there were only a few backups - slides that were duped.

backups never cease.....

Nov 02, 2009 at 01:07 AM

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p.2 #13 · D800/D700s

jamach wrote:
Still, not a big issue, a terabyte goes for about a hundred bucks.

Oh, excuse me, don't look at high megapixel cameras because you might need a hundred dollar hard drive, eh?

Geees

Joe

Well if your going to be out shooting for a week before you can get back to reality you'll need double the space,

And yes I have boxes of slide sleeves and I still have my old carousel.

Nov 02, 2009 at 01:39 AM

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p.2 #14 · D800/D700s

Well, that is just what it would take. Kinda like driving a gas hog, it will use gas. One can feel better looking at the fantastic res of the bigger image and detail, I suppose

Can you use the lower res modes of the camera, such as in a 24 mpixel Sony one can get 11mpixel in crop mode, I think

And save the high res mode at 24mpixel for special shots or for those you need it for?

Nov 02, 2009 at 01:54 AM

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p.2 #15 · D800/D700s

Could be why there is such as strong following for the Old King, Praise the Old King

Nikon D2Hs

Nov 02, 2009 at 01:55 AM

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p.2 #16 · D800/D700s

Guidenet wrote:

As for the ISO of the D3s, again, who'd use it?

Me. Having just spent a week shooting 3200 ISO at 1/8th f3.2 with a D300

Nov 02, 2009 at 07:14 PM

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p.2 #17 · D800/D700s

Guidenet wrote:

As for dual cards, really now, who cares? As for the ISO of the D3s, again, who'd use it? I know with my D700, I don't stop up past 6400 and rarely go even there. I want to take nice photos. I don't care to take noisy messes just to say I did it at some crazy ISO. I mean, isn't that why we love photography? We want to take the best photographs that our skill allows. These tools we use are supposed to make it easier. Sticking a couple of silly extra features and putting an "S" by the name certainly does not compel me to think they will contribute to me taking better images.

Sorry but this is one of the most ignorant and narrow minded statements I've seen in a long time.

Who cares about dual card slots ? Oh, gee, maybe those of us who have to shoot on deadline and want to be able to write jpegs we can quickly transfer and send off at halftime and still have raw files written to another card for later processing ? Or maybe those of us who are shooting priceless once in a lifetime moments like weddings and we like to be able to have a backup for our clients in case we have some card corruption.

And gee....who on earth would need high ISO ? Hmmm,, perhaps anyone who shoots any sort of sporting event indoors or at night or perhaps weddings where your not allowed to use flash, or concerts perhaps ?

Now I know to you that when I'm shooting an event in a really dim arena at high iso that its just a noisey mess and you might think I'm just doing it to say I did. Well thats not the case because my clients, be they a news publication, or just parents themselves do value those images and my ability to document those events that took place.

Do I spend my time at a volleyball game because I love taking nice photos ? No, I do it because its how I keep a roof over my head.

So while those "silly" features may not help you make "nicer" images, they can mean a world of difference to others ability to do their jobs better.

Try opening up your mind a bit and realizing that there are people out there who shoot different subjects and for different reasons than what you do.

Nov 02, 2009 at 07:46 PM

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p.2 #18 · D800/D700s

I would much rather have a D700s with a dual card instead of more MP or video. As a wedding photographer, there is nothing that brings more of a pucker than to discover you filled the card near an important moment. (Thus we change cards often before they are filled.).

Nov 02, 2009 at 08:19 PM

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p.2 #19 · D800/D700s

thats what second camera is for :-)

but dual slots are awesome for incamera backup. funny i still didnt grown up to trust CF cards as much as i trust film.

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:30 PM

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p.2 #20 · D800/D700s

Just a thought, use a larger card.

I now use D300s' for critical work and have dual 32gb cards in them. No changes.

DragonflyDM wrote:
I would much rather have a D700s with a dual card instead of more MP or video. As a wedding photographer, there is nothing that brings more of a pucker than to discover you filled the card near an important moment. (Thus we change cards often before they are filled.).

Nov 04, 2009 at 04:40 AM

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p.2 #21 · D800/D700s

Guidenet wrote:
As for dual cards, really now, who cares? As for the ISO of the D3s, again, who'd use it?

I do care about dual cards and I would (or could) use the D3s iso performance gain, if only to get better quality at iso 3200-6400.

Nov 04, 2009 at 09:43 AM

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p.2 #22 · D800/D700s

The only two things I would want in a D700s/D800/D700x/whatever are dual CF cards and even more AF cross points (even better AF system).

The resolution doesn't matter to me as long as it is at least 12MP. Movie mode doesn't really mean much to me as I wouldn't buy the camera as a video tool. If it's there, it'll be nice to have. Also, the incremental iso upgrade will be a plus also, however the current iso performances on the likes of D700 and 5D2 and 1D3 are absolutely fine for professional work. Heck, the 5d original is still fine for high iso work.

Nov 04, 2009 at 12:09 PM

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p.2 #23 · D800/D700s

I'll take the current af system and bag the dual cards for the resolution alone. I have the d3 and the d3x and would love to see a smaller brother. The 1080 video would be great and very handy.

Nov 04, 2009 at 12:26 PM

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p.2 #24 · D800/D700s

Nikon is being quite smart. They may need to contend with a 3D and a 5Dii in the near future. I suspect the D800, which will not be announced till the summer, will be 16-18 MP, and be announced with a new 24-120 f4 to compete with canons 24-105.

Nov 04, 2009 at 02:29 PM

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p.2 #25 · D800/D700s

I would love to see a D700x with the D3x sensor for something around $3500. Keep in mind that it appears Sony is loosing money on every A900/A850 body sold - something Nikon CAN'T do if it wants to stay in business, so matching Sony on Price isn't likely. If it comes to market, I expect a D700x to sell for a bit more than a 5DII. I personally doubt we'll see a D800 with a 16/18mp chip in it. If Nikon does make such a chip it would appear in the D4 first - and we're two years away from a D4.

When the D700 came out many long-time Nikon watchers said it was a year early to market, if that's true we could have another year to wait...

Nov 04, 2009 at 03:42 PM


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