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Great series of shots Dan :Thumb:

Oct 28, 2009 at 01:40 PM
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"Now, since I don't know exactly what constitute a "Holy Grail" shot, etc.... I'll just let you FMers decide. Please give me some C&C if you can, especially if you don't think so."
Up to now, I've been sitting back on the earlier posts regarding what constitutes a "Holy Grail" shot, but I think that it's time that I throw in my 2 cents worth and give you a little historical perspective. In 2005, the three of us (Thang, Dan Trinidad - Riokid, and I) spent a lot of time staking out the river along San Joaquin Wildlife Sanctuary trying to get a shot of the Osprey just as it grabbed a fish in the water. After countless hours that year, we still came up empty. So we became very determined to pursue this goal of getting "the" shot, a "holy grail" quest on our part. The next year, we had a very unusual situation (not seen since) where the Ospreys were attracted to fishing couple of the ponds at SJWS and were very successful at it so that there were plenty of opportunities. That year, a number of us (Thang, Dan, Laura Hughes, and a number of other local FM'ers and a few non-FM'ers) were able to take advantage of this situation and got our shots, and started posting them here on the forum too. On one of the early outings, Laura mentioned that we now have a "Osprey Club" in the way that we kiddingly had put together an earlier "Bobcat Club" (with the inside joke of a decoder ring). I said that a "Holy Grail Society" had a more distinguished flavor,and that it was more appropriate since we were trying to get "the" shot which had been our "holy grail" pursuit. Some of you long standing members will remember that we started posting those shots tagged as "holy grail" shots. There were a number of them being posted since the opportunities and odds of getting one was much better when the shooting area was more confined because of the pond boundries, as opposed to a whole length of a river with limited access at a few riverbank openings. Some of you long-standing members will recall that there was a backlash of sorts at that time with some people getting sick of this "holy grail" thing. Some people in other parts of the country said that it was a common opportunity and that it wasn't that hard to capture. Well, it was a big deal for us in SoCal at the time since it was a rare opportunity and occurance for us at the time. And some, like JB, never did get their holy grail shot that year, even with this opportunity. Even back then, an even greater or ultimate "holy grail" would have been to get a shot of a Bald Eagle just as it was snatching a fish out of the water (wasn't going to happen in SoCal). Timing is a key element of this shot. In the past couple of years, it has gotten to be more common to see such shots from around here as a large number of people have become aware of a local park that stocks trout, and the Ospreys will hunt them. It is not unusual to see 20 photographers or more lining the banks of a confined area.

"Boy that Mr. Zm guy sure is a stickler for details... gotta be an Osprey, gotta be Canon gear, yada yada yada... "
I don't know when Mr Zoom became the high priest of the "Holy Grail Society", but the main element in a "holy grail" shot is the timing of the shot with the bird in flight at the moment that it's snatching a prey out of the water. Your shot certainly qualify, and is a very unusual occurance in its own right. Another "holy grail" situation for us would be to capture an image of a raptor just as it snags a prey in mid-flight with a puff of feathers from the impact!

"In addition to the Harrier HG club you could start one for Snowy's too Danno."
"Recommend you start the "Snowy Grail" club Dan. These are fantastic!!!"
You certainly can start a "Snowy Grail" club or a Snowy Egret branch of the "Holy Grail Society".

Congratulations on getting that shot #4, a great shot.

- Ken


Oct 28, 2009 at 03:34 PM
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Glad to see that Ken Hamada has cleared up the confusion here. Dan posted a great series of Grailish proportions--but not one that qualifies for a decoder ring. As Ken notes, he's a Phounding Phather of the Holy Grail Society, and since he shoots Nikon we have been unable to implement a Nikon Exclusionary Rule, although it still sees debate in committee.

Here are some examples of Grail shots for which I immediately ship a decoder ring:

Osprey/Fish 'perfect timing' grab (look of terror on fish's face is an important element of one of these)
White Tailed Kite Mouse Passing shot
Falcon hitting prey in mid-air (the legendary 'puff of feathers' shot.) Oh, and:
Shot of Ken Hamada, hitting soft ground and buried up to his waist with the weight of all the gear he carries. (Look of Terror would be good here too).

Lastly, Dan J., it is apparent that you recognize that the list of photographers who've been published in Nat Geo is a long one. The list of Holy Grail Society Members is quite short--truly the elite. Good luck in your quest, grasshopper.

Best,
JB


Oct 28, 2009 at 04:06 PM
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Oh Yeh Looks like the real thing to me you got my vote. Ed

Oct 28, 2009 at 04:13 PM
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Super nice series Dan. Nicely captured and exposed!

Congrats on your "Snowy Grail!"


Dave

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Oct 28, 2009 at 04:18 PM
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Up to now, I've been sitting back on the earlier posts regarding what constitutes a "Holy Grail" shot, but I think that it's time that I throw in my 2 cents worth and give you a little historical perspective. In 2005, the three of us (Thang, Dan Trinidad - Riokid, and I) spent a lot of time staking out the river along San Joaquin Wildlife Sanctuary trying to get a shot of the Osprey just as it grabbed a fish in the water. After countless hours that year, we still came up empty. So we became very determined to pursue this goal of getting "the" shot, a "holy grail" quest on our part. The next year, we had a very unusual situation (not seen since) where the Ospreys were attracted to fishing couple of the ponds at SJWS and were very successful at it so that there were plenty of opportunities. That year, a number of us (Thang, Dan, Laura Hughes, and a number of other local FM'ers and a few non-FM'ers) were able to take advantage of this situation and got our shots, and started posting them here on the forum too. On one of the early outings, Laura mentioned that we now have a "Osprey Club" in the way that we kiddingly had put together an earlier "Bobcat Club" (with the inside joke of a decoder ring). I said that a "Holy Grail Society" had a more distinguished flavor,and that it was more appropriate since we were trying to get "the" shot which had been our "holy grail" pursuit. Some of you long standing members will remember that we started posting those shots tagged as "holy grail" shots. There were a number of them being posted since the opportunities and odds of getting one was much better when the shooting area was more confined because of the pond boundries, as opposed to a whole length of a river with limited access at a few riverbank openings. Some of you long-standing members will recall that there was a backlash of sorts at that time with some people getting sick of this "holy grail" thing. Some people in other parts of the country said that it was a common opportunity and that it wasn't that hard to capture. Well, it was a big deal for us in SoCal at the time since it was a rare opportunity and occurance for us at the time. And some, like JB, never did get their holy grail shot that year, even with this opportunity. Even back then, an even greater or ultimate "holy grail" would have been to get a shot of a Bald Eagle just as it was snatching a fish out of the water (wasn't going to happen in SoCal). Timing is a key element of this shot. In the past couple of years, it has gotten to be more common to see such shots from around here as a large number of people have become aware of a local park that stocks trout, and the Ospreys will hunt them. It is not unusual to see 20 photographers or more lining the banks of a confined area.

Thanks for the history Ken, very interesting.

Kirk


Oct 28, 2009 at 04:27 PM
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Wow!! Those are some very awesome captures Dan..

-Quang


Oct 28, 2009 at 05:16 PM
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fwyflyr wrote:
"Now, since I don't know exactly what constitute a "Holy Grail" shot, etc.... I'll just let you FMers decide. Please give me some C&C if you can, especially if you don't think so."
Up to now, I've been sitting back on the earlier posts regarding what constitutes a "Holy Grail" shot, but I think that it's time that I throw in my 2 cents worth and give you a little historical perspective. In 2005, the three of us (Thang, Dan Trinidad - Riokid, and I) spent a lot of time staking out the river along San Joaquin Wildlife Sanctuary trying to get a shot of the Osprey just as it grabbed a fish in the water. After countless hours that year, we still came up empty. So we became very determined to pursue this goal of getting "the" shot, a "holy grail" quest on our part. The next year, we had a very unusual situation (not seen since) where the Ospreys were attracted to fishing couple of the ponds at SJWS and were very successful at it so that there were plenty of opportunities. That year, a number of us (Thang, Dan, Laura Hughes, and a number of other local FM'ers and a few non-FM'ers) were able to take advantage of this situation and got our shots, and started posting them here on the forum too. On one of the early outings, Laura mentioned that we now have a "Osprey Club" in the way that we kiddingly had put together an earlier "Bobcat Club" (with the inside joke of a decoder ring). I said that a "Holy Grail Society" had a more distinguished flavor,and that it was more appropriate since we were trying to get "the" shot which had been our "holy grail" pursuit. Some of you long standing members will remember that we started posting those shots tagged as "holy grail" shots. There were a number of them being posted since the opportunities and odds of getting one was much better when the shooting area was more confined because of the pond boundries, as opposed to a whole length of a river with limited access at a few riverbank openings. Some of you long-standing members will recall that there was a backlash of sorts at that time with some people getting sick of this "holy grail" thing. Some people in other parts of the country said that it was a common opportunity and that it wasn't that hard to capture. Well, it was a big deal for us in SoCal at the time since it was a rare opportunity and occurance for us at the time. And some, like JB, never did get their holy grail shot that year, even with this opportunity. Even back then, an even greater or ultimate "holy grail" would have been to get a shot of a Bald Eagle just as it was snatching a fish out of the water (wasn't going to happen in SoCal). Timing is a key element of this shot. In the past couple of years, it has gotten to be more common to see such shots from around here as a large number of people have become aware of a local park that stocks trout, and the Ospreys will hunt them. It is not unusual to see 20 photographers or more lining the banks of a confined area.

"Boy that Mr. Zm guy sure is a stickler for details... gotta be an Osprey, gotta be Canon gear, yada yada yada... "
I don't know when Mr Zoom became the high priest of the "Holy Grail Society", but the main element in a "holy grail" shot is the timing of the shot with the bird in flight at the moment that it's snatching a prey out of the water. Your shot certainly qualify, and is a very unusual occurance in its own right. Another "holy grail" situation for us would be to capture an image of a raptor just as it snags a prey in mid-flight with a puff of feathers from the impact!

"In addition to the Harrier HG club you could start one for Snowy's too Danno."
"Recommend you start the "Snowy Grail" club Dan. These are fantastic!!!"
You certainly can start a "Snowy Grail" club or a Snowy Egret branch of the "Holy Grail Society".

Congratulations on getting that shot #4, a great shot.

- Ken



Hi Ken,

THANK YOU very much for the "little historical perspective" and the kind comments. I've been w/ the N&W Forum for only just over a year or so (even though longer as a FM member) so I missed all that "HG" stuffs. I kinda think all along a "HG" shot should include at least the bird (egret, etc...) before the water impact, the actual impact and one w/ the actual prey in mouth after (the main one).
I am certainly honored by those who viewed, voted (either way) and commented.
I think here I am just lucky (hence my other name, Lucky Danno ) to have caught this and nothing else. This isn't about me...I am no better than anyone here. It's all about sharing my experience, my pictures, learn from others' and hope to have a little fun while at it.
Thank you again Ken.

Dan


Oct 28, 2009 at 06:43 PM
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z06jim wrote:
Awesome action series, very well done....


Thank you Jim.
Dan


Oct 28, 2009 at 06:45 PM
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Tim Kuhn wrote:
Real sweet set Dan! I voted for you, I think it qualifies. But if it does so did this that I posted a little while ago. This guy dove out of the air to get the fish. I have also seen greenies doing the same thing.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/826390/

Tim


Hi Tim,
Thank you for the vote. Yours should be a HG and more. Your work is wonderful my friend.
dan


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Conrad Tan wrote:
Due to the rarity of this event, I deemed it a holy grail, but really there should have been a "mini" grail category Danno this was an excellent series, well done and very sharp and I hope to catch something like it someday!



Thank you Conrad. Did you catch anything that day at Vasona ?
Danno


Oct 28, 2009 at 06:51 PM
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Martin Good wrote:
Hi Dan,
Congrats on this fine set of action images!
I vote for #4 being your HG shot
Martin


Thank you very much Martin.
dan


Oct 28, 2009 at 06:51 PM
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Lil Judd wrote:
Dan

you get a from me for a Holy Grail - -

especially since my flowers have been considered for that honor.

Well done & what an amazing Snowy.....

Well done - Great set.

Lil
P.S. Socrate's right - in # 13 she does have a tiny fish in her beak..... (yes I wrote "she" - none-linear thinking deems a female. )



Thank you kindly Lil. You have always been very supportive . Thanks to Socrate for pointing that out.
Dan


Oct 28, 2009 at 06:53 PM
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Thang wrote:
Recommend you start the "Snowy Grail" club Dan. These are fantastic!!!


Hi Thang,
Thank you for the recommendation and the support. I appreciate you dropping by and commented. Not sure if I qualify to start any club .
Dan


Oct 28, 2009 at 06:56 PM
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chose #1 stunning...

Oct 28, 2009 at 07:04 PM
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carl haslam wrote:
Great set there Dan its a grail shot for sure

Carl


Thank you very much Carl.
Dan


Oct 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM
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kirry007 wrote:
definitely holy grail, great set of shots !


Thank you very much Kiran.
Dan


Oct 29, 2009 at 10:59 AM
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surfnron wrote:
Whatever you call it Dan, it's a winning series in my book ~ Ron


Hi Ron,
Thanks for stopping by and the vote of support. I appreciate it my friend.
dan


Oct 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM
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b.a.smith wrote:
Beautiful series you have here Dan, I gave you a thumbs up buddy.

alan


Thank you Alan. Glad you liked them.
Dan


Oct 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM
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Karl Witt wrote:
A most amazing series of events Danno, Lucky Danno to be exact I have never seen this before, shocking I bet when you did see it.
You sure got some nice pearly whites in this series with some great pop in the yellows. #'s 5,6,7 are really sweet images buddy.

Holy Grail in uniqueness yes! Your Holy Grail.........not yet as I have set my standards for your HG much higher my friend, for me, the HG shot is in the eyes of the animal/bird/fish whatever. The eyes will tell you Danno

Karl


Thank you KarlA. I appreciate the C&c as always. HG or not, I am just having a nice, peaceful time being out there w/ these feathered ones.
Danno


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