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p.1 #1 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

24/1.4, 34/1.4, 50/1.4, but no 85/1.4. Any reason?

Oct 22, 2009 at 09:09 PM

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p.1 #2 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

Yes, because the Canon EOS mount is able to accommodate an 85/1.2, that's why. If Nikon's mount was able to do this, their lens would be an F1.2 instead of an F1.4 as well.

Oct 22, 2009 at 09:10 PM

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p.1 #3 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

Why do you want an 1.4 if there is a 1.2

If you want something slower, just use the 1.8... or stop down

Oct 22, 2009 at 09:12 PM

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p.1 #4 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

but canon has 50/1.0, 50/1.2, 50/1.4, 50/1.8, 50/2.5...

Oct 22, 2009 at 09:20 PM

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p.1 #5 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

Both the 85L and 85 1.8 are excellent. Why would you want anything more?

Oct 22, 2009 at 09:25 PM

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p.1 #6 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

I've thought about this too...More than once to be honest. My thoughts were the cost justification, look at the difference in size and cost from the 50mm f/1.8 (mk I or II) to the f/1.4 and then to the f/1.2. the $200-$300 from 1.8 to 1.4 is acceptable for a 50mm I think. Now with the 85mm f/1.8 already above $400.00(new), I would imagine that a f/1.4 version might be to in the range of $1000-$1150. Also might hurt their 50L f/1.2 sales, that are proven throught the years and lines. Production cost vs. profit margin + low demand = no dice.

just my $.02, fwiw...

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Oct 22, 2009 at 09:29 PM

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p.1 #7 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

just curious...canon can make one more excellent lens such 85/1.4 and people will buy it...

Oct 22, 2009 at 09:30 PM

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p.1 #8 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

Daan B wrote:
Why do you want an 1.4 if there is a 1.2

If you want something slower, just use the 1.8... or stop down

Because you cannot afford the cost, size and weight of the 1.2 and want faster than the 1.8. If they can make a 1.4 focus as fast as the 1.8, then many people will rather want the 1.4 instead of the 1.2.

Oct 22, 2009 at 09:50 PM

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p.1 #9 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

I want an 85mm F1.7. I think Canon should make that.

Oct 22, 2009 at 10:17 PM

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p.1 #10 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

Zeiss makes a 85/1.4 for Canon, if this is what you need to be happy. I have the 85/1.2 and had the 85/1.8. Both of them are outstanding IQ-wise, you cannot go wrong with either of them (as long as you understand what is each of them is good for).

Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 PM

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p.1 #11 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

henryng wrote:
Daan B wrote:
Why do you want an 1.4 if there is a 1.2

If you want something slower, just use the 1.8... or stop down

Because you cannot afford the cost, size and weight of the 1.2 and want faster than the 1.8. If they can make a 1.4 focus as fast as the 1.8, then many people will rather want the 1.4 instead of the 1.2.
Ok, so who would buy the 1.2 if they made a 1.4 like that? Or the other way around, if Nikon made a 1.2 instead, would anyone want a 1.4? Honestly, the 85 1.8 is pretty damn good. Also, the aperture difference between 1.4 and 1.2 is small. 1.2 and 1.8 is a more logical step.

Oct 22, 2009 at 10:21 PM

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p.1 #12 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

I think because we already have an f/1.8 and an f/1.2.
And if you really want f/1.4 you can get the Zeiss with the Canon mount... I think the 85mm focal length is pretty well covered

Oct 22, 2009 at 10:22 PM

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p.1 #13 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

At the "L" level, they have the 14/2.8, 24/1.4, 35/1.4, 50/1.2, 85/1.2, and 135/2. All great lenses.

Oct 23, 2009 at 02:13 AM

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p.1 #14 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

Strangely enough, Canon 50/1.0 and 50/1.2 don't have good reviews comparing to other prime Ls...

Oct 23, 2009 at 02:33 AM

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p.1 #15 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

i think adding that would be pretty redundant.
Doesn't make too much sense business wise right?

Oct 23, 2009 at 03:16 AM

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p.1 #16 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

kjrain wrote:
Strangely enough, Canon 50/1.0 and 50/1.2 don't have good reviews comparing to other prime Ls...
The negativety surrounding these lenses and other Canon stuff is mostly internet B.S.! Yes, there may be a few problems out there but, overall most of the complaints and problems you read about are blown way out of proportion. Then the flames are fanned by a large population of people who read it some where and know it's the truth. Ok, sorry about the rant. By the way, one lens I would never sell is my 50 1.0L, it's easily my favorite.

Oct 23, 2009 at 03:30 AM

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p.1 #17 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

swnow wrote:
but canon has 50/1.0, 50/1.2, 50/1.4, 50/1.8, 50/2.5...

For the record...Canon HAD a 50/1.0 and replaced it with the 50/1.2. Also the 50/2.5 is a true macro lens so it shouldn't be considered along side the other 50mm lenses.

Omar

Oct 23, 2009 at 04:00 AM

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p.1 #18 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

swnow wrote:
24/1.4, 34/1.4, 50/1.4, but no 85/1.4. Any reason?

No 14/1.4, 15/1.4, 20/1.4, 28/1.4, 45/1.4, 60/1.4, 65/1.4, 90/1.4, 100/1.4, 135/1.4, 180/1.4, 200/1.4 Any reason?

Oct 23, 2009 at 04:10 AM

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p.1 #19 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

lol

Oct 23, 2009 at 08:51 AM

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p.1 #20 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

myself would love a 20 1.4...while we are at it there should be 35mm f2 USM

Oct 23, 2009 at 09:22 AM

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p.1 #21 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

there SHOULD BE alot of things . dont mean they'll ever come.
If you look at the recent lens releases they have either been Hyper expensive L's or a bunch of EFs consumer zooms. Correct me if I'm wrong but the last consumer grade (non L) EF lens released was the 70-300 IS. Maybe with the Pixel jumps now Canon are basicly saying you'll have to pay for the best quality new releases or stick with the old stuff.

Oct 23, 2009 at 09:29 AM

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p.1 #22 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

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No... 200/1.4 Any reason?

Nobody would be able to lift it!

Oct 23, 2009 at 11:19 AM

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p.1 #23 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

Grab a Nikon 85 f/1.4 AF-D or C/Y Zeiss 85 f/1.4 and you won't be disappointed. I have the C/Y and it's one of my favourite lenses.

Oct 23, 2009 at 11:23 AM

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p.1 #24 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

The reason that there are so many 50s is probably historical. As the typical kit lens and as a commonly used walk around/normal lens for years pretty much every manufacturer diversified their line of 50s. Nikon has an f/1.2, f/1.4 & f/1.8 50, so does Pentax, so does Olympus, so does Zeiss, etc. Nobody has f/1.2, f/1.4, & f/1.8 85s. I think it is unlikely that Canon will do so now.

Oct 23, 2009 at 01:01 PM

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p.1 #25 · No 85mm 1.4 from Canon?

molson wrote:
swnow wrote:
24/1.4, 34/1.4, 50/1.4, but no 85/1.4. Any reason?

No 14/1.4, 15/1.4, 20/1.4, 28/1.4, 45/1.4, 60/1.4, 65/1.4, 90/1.4, 100/1.4, 135/1.4, 180/1.4, 200/1.4 Any reason?

You forgot the 300/1.4, 400/1.4, 500/1.4, 600/1.4, 800/1.4 and the revival of the 1200mm beast as a 1200/1.4.

A 900mm front element... Sounds awesome.

Oct 23, 2009 at 02:12 PM


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