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Paul Buff wrote:
. Got an outlet the can supply 12,000 watts? The US limit is 1800W.



I will argue this one with you as there are lots of NEMA configurations for outlets.

1800 watts would only apply to a 20 amp 120 volt breaker under a continuous load.
Something with time constants would not apply.









Oct 21, 2009 at 08:40 PM
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p.3 #2 · Hensel Roboflash - 31fps


Brent Ward wrote:
Hi Rick,

When I clicked on your posts button, I noticed that almost all your posts where on Paul's product threads. Any connection?

I have no idea of who Rick is. No connection whatsoever.



Oct 21, 2009 at 11:04 PM
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p.3 #3 · Hensel Roboflash - 31fps


Paul Buff wrote:
I have no idea of who Rick is. No connection whatsoever.


That's one. We still have a few hours before the cock crows.

C'mon Paul, surely you remember.... "

" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Rickster
".



Oct 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM
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p.3 #4 · Hensel Roboflash - 31fps


k7xd wrote:
I will argue this one with you as there are lots of NEMA configurations for outlets.

1800 watts would only apply to a 20 amp 120 volt breaker under a continuous load.
Something with time constants would not apply.



I am fully prepared to argue this point. What is suggested is on the order of 12,000 watts AC input power for one second. That's 100 amps at 120VAC or 50A at 240VAC. A standard 120V household circuit is rated at 15A, and will blow the breaker at 110% within 1 hour, and at 200% in a few seconds - look it up to get the exactly break time for 200%. What is suggested represents about a 700% overload and would blow a breaker in a few milliseconds. For reference to non-engineers, the power levels being fantasied here are akin to a HVAC unit requiring a 50A 240V dedicated outlet.

As Peter suggests, this is a 500WS unit. And Peter knows of what he speaks, Tell you what, I'll wager $10,000 to anyone here that this unit, if and when actual specs are released, outputs 31 pulses per second at approximately 16WS per pulse or 8 pulses per second at approximately 60WS per pulse, not 31 pulses of 200WS as has been speculated by some here.

Any takers?



Oct 21, 2009 at 11:31 PM
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p.3 #5 · Hensel Roboflash - 31fps


Paul Buff wrote:
I am fully prepared to argue this point.

Paul, it's really been great to see you come out of your shell since that last poll.
Boy those assertiveness classes must be really working for you, eh?

Any takers?
Sure. Shaken, not stirred, please.



Oct 21, 2009 at 11:38 PM
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Carmen Miranda wrote:
That's one. We still have a few hours before the cock crows.

C'mon Paul, surely you remember.... "

" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Rickster
".

Oh - I get it Rick Astley changed his name and came on here as my secret surrogate. Quite possible I suppose - most who have been in the recording industry know me and respect my work. Right now I'm in communications with Alan Parsons - he likes me - maybe he'll come on here too if I ask him.



Oct 21, 2009 at 11:41 PM
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p.3 #7 · Hensel Roboflash - 31fps


Paul,

It is called "Rickrolling"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickrolling



Oct 21, 2009 at 11:44 PM
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rickboden wrote:
Hi Brent,
No connection. I never owned a PCB product in my life (I have older Norman studio flash) but I am very interested in the new products and that is why you see my posts where you do.

For years I had been critical of the "effective w/s" advertising of the White Lightning stuff so I was not always a fan. But I really respect the success of the company and the way they reportedly treat their customers. I don't know Paul at all although I may have spoken with him briefly at the WL booth at PhotoExpo twenty years ago.
...Show more

I was just curious. I'll admit I love my brons, wouldn't go back to dynalight after using them, but I really liked my dyna's too. Only thing that made me switch was flash duration. Then I found out about all the nice modifiers bron has for what I do and was hooked!







Oct 21, 2009 at 11:46 PM
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Carmen Miranda wrote:
Paul, it's really been great to see you come out of your shell since that last poll.
Boy those assertiveness classes must be really working for you, eh?


Sure. Shaken, not stirred, please.

Being on here requires assertiveness training. Hey, thanks for keeping me at the top of the thread list when all I did is correct the fantasies.



Oct 21, 2009 at 11:46 PM
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Brent Ward wrote:
I was just curious. I'll admit I love my brons, wouldn't go back to dynalight after using them, but I really liked my dyna's too. Only thing that made me switch was flash duration. Then I found out about all the nice modifiers bron has for what I do and was hooked!



Nothing wrong with Bron if you can afford them. I may be mistaken, but I believe Visatec was Bron's answer to WL. 1/600 second t.5 See specs and price here.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/316156-REG/Visatec_51_051_00_Logos_1600_600_W_S.html#specifications



Oct 21, 2009 at 11:54 PM
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Paul Buff wrote:
Being on here requires assertiveness training.


For me it requires a very healthy dose of humor, which BTW I am desperately trying to hang on to.

Hey, thanks for keeping me at the top of the thread list when all I did is correct the fantasies.

You're welcome.
Just seems to me the risk in correcting fantasies is they become reality and where's the fun in that?

Live a little, laugh alot!



Oct 22, 2009 at 12:22 AM
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p.3 #12 · Hensel Roboflash - 31fps


Paul Buff wrote:
I am fully prepared to argue this point. What is suggested is on the order of 12,000 watts AC input power for one second. That's 100 amps at 120VAC or 50A at 240VAC. A standard 120V household circuit is rated at 15A, and will blow the breaker at 110% within 1 hour, and at 200% in a few seconds - look it up to get the exactly break time for 200%. What is suggested represents about a 700% overload and would blow a breaker in a few milliseconds. For reference to non-engineers, the power levels being fantasied here are
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Yes, why does it have to be hooked up to a 15 amp 120 volt outlet?
Why not a 50 amp 240 volt or a 200 amp 480v 3 phase for that mater?






Oct 22, 2009 at 04:08 PM
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k7xd wrote:
Yes, why does it have to be hooked up to a 15 amp 120 volt outlet?
Why not a 50 amp 240 volt or a 200 amp 480v 3 phase for that mater?


You must be kidding! You want a 3/4" cable and thousands of dollars worth if rewiring for a 500WS strobe? I don't quite think this is what Hensel intends!



Oct 22, 2009 at 10:53 PM
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so Paul,
can a future software upgrade to the Cyber Commander offer MultiMax like SpeedCycler capability so we can cycle thru a group of Einsteins? i just watched the Chase Jarvis strobed photo session

and thought, well if i am buying this stuff anyway...



Oct 28, 2009 at 09:02 AM
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p.3 #15 · Hensel Roboflash - 31fps


Maybe there should be a lighting gear forum and a lighting technique forum so everyone wouldn't freak out over this stuff...


Oct 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM
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p.3 #16 · Hensel Roboflash - 31fps


amplexis wrote:
so Paul,
can a future software upgrade to the Cyber Commander offer MultiMax like SpeedCycler capability so we can cycle thru a group of Einsteins? i just watched the Chase Jarvis strobed photo session

and thought, well if i am buying this stuff anyway...

I could probably add GPS and remote toaster control. I've done the best I can for the broadest cross section of users. To try to make it do everything that anyone could possibly ask for would yield a product too complex for the average user.



Oct 28, 2009 at 03:13 PM
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Paul Buff wrote:
I could probably add GPS and remote toaster control. I've done the best I can for the broadest cross section of users. To try to make it do everything that anyone could possibly ask for would yield a product too complex for the average user.


thanks Paul,
i'm grateful and satisfied with getting the published capabilities. i was just curious what the programmable/upgradeable nature of the Cyber Commander might be capable of. would you ever offer an SDK or control from a PC?



Oct 28, 2009 at 04:21 PM
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p.3 #18 · Hensel Roboflash - 31fps


amplexis wrote:
thanks Paul,
i'm grateful and satisfied with getting the published capabilities. i was just curious what the programmable/upgradeable nature of the Cyber Commander might be capable of. would you ever offer an SDK or control from a PC?

Because of the SD Card, CC can be made to do lot's of things in the future. We try to stay away from pc interface or we'll be spending all our time writing apps for the ever changing operating systems. I suggest a comparison of CC to another popular remote system that has USB and software. I won't say more.

Just had to go to Snow Leopard to use the latest apps - but had to buy several new Macs because SL won't go in 2 year old G5s. I don't want to do that to my customers. Shame . . . Apple. What happened to forward/backward compatibility that Apple was so good at?



Oct 28, 2009 at 11:29 PM
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p.3 #19 · Hensel Roboflash - 31fps


They changed to a new processor and it was hugely successful. Changing required cutting off support of older machines at some point though.


Oct 28, 2009 at 11:42 PM
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p.3 #20 · Hensel Roboflash - 31fps


wow what a hijack!


Oct 29, 2009 at 02:31 AM
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