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p.4 #1 · Zeiss look?

How cheap is cheap?
Some Zeiss lenses are "reasonably cheap". Zeiss 50f1.7 for around $125, Zeiss 50f1.4 for $175, and Zeiss 28f2.8 for around $250...

Oct 12, 2009 at 06:33 AM

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p.4 #2 · Zeiss look?

and Zeiss 135 f:2.8 for about 250$, and Zeiss 25 for some 185$

Oct 12, 2009 at 06:39 AM

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p.4 #3 · Zeiss look?

Thanks guys. I think those prices are quite reasonable.

Oct 12, 2009 at 06:41 AM

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Tri Tran wrote:
How cheap is cheap?
Some Zeiss lenses are "reasonably cheap". Zeiss 50f1.7 for around $125, Zeiss 50f1.4 for $175, and Zeiss 28f2.8 for around $250...
Not bad at all. How do the 50's compare to the Canon 50/1.4?
I assume there is no AF? Wouldn't this make nailing focus at these super wide apertures nearly impossible (ie relying on MF)?

Oct 12, 2009 at 06:45 AM

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p.4 #5 · Zeiss look?

No, there is no AF. There are basically 3 Zeiss 50mm. The 50mm macro is �bersharp, but geared more towards close-range shots than infinity. The 50 f:1.4 planar is the opposite. Very smooth and creamy, fabulous at infinity, not so comfortable wide open at minimum focusing distance. The 50 f:1.7 is also very sharp, but bokeh is a little less smooth than f:1.4.
With Canon EF 50 f:1.8 and f:1.4, there is simply quite a difference IMHO. The Canon will look "flat" and "dull" by comparison. Low constrast, washed out colours. There are many threads with such comparisons if you want. With Canon 50mm L f:1.2, if you happen to like shooting wide open and have creamy bokeh, it is possible that you could prefer the Canon.

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Oct 12, 2009 at 06:51 AM

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p.4 #6 · Zeiss look?

wow, the shots from the 21mm look amazing. Also the amazing skill of the 21mm users

Oct 12, 2009 at 06:55 AM

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p.4 #7 · Zeiss look?

Jim Schemel wrote:
brainiac,
the last shot is awesome.
-Jim

Thanks - it's the lens!

Oct 12, 2009 at 08:32 AM

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Zeiss look or not, there are a lots of great images in this thread, but I *really* like the simplicity of this one -- it takes a viewer to the water. Flawless execution. --tom

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Distagon 21:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Thanks Tom - it's just one of those sights you see, point at, and shoot. Sorry about the jpeg quality - I'll see if I can dig up a better version.

Oct 12, 2009 at 08:35 AM

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ziyadj wrote:
Nice shots with the dsitagon 21 Brainaic

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Here are some of my favorite shots (5D Mk2 and 50D)

CZ 21 (Distagon)

Stunning shots ziyadj

Oct 12, 2009 at 08:39 AM

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philber wrote:
and Zeiss 135 f:2.8 for about 250$, and Zeiss 25 for some 185$

The Contax 35 f2.8 is cheap and good too, as are 85 f2.8, 35-70, and 200 f3.5. The 25 gets varying reports. I had a fairly unsharp one which didn't really go mental until it was really stopped down. Generally all of these lenses start to do special things at f5.6 to f8, but are dramatically improved by stopping down one stop from wide open.

Oct 12, 2009 at 08:43 AM

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brainiac wrote:
philber wrote:
and Zeiss 135 f:2.8 for about 250$, and Zeiss 25 for some 185$

The 25 gets varying reports. I had a fairly unsharp one which didn't really go mental until it was really stopped down.

I haven't yet been able to master my 25. It is very much still a hit-or-miss affair. Every time I feel I have it down to rights, it manages to upset me, and every time I feel like giving up, it surprises me with a scrumptious pic...
But I hope that the advent of the 21 ZE makes this matter moot

Oct 12, 2009 at 09:00 AM

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p.4 #12 · Zeiss look?

Thanks Philber and Brainiac. Like you said its the lens

Oct 12, 2009 at 09:30 AM

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philber wrote:
I haven't yet been able to master my 25. It is very much still a hit-or-miss affair. Every time I feel I have it down to rights, it manages to upset me, and every time I feel like giving up, it surprises me with a scrumptious pic...
But I hope that the advent of the 21 ZE makes this matter moot

Find a copy of the ZF (or ZE) 25mm. The more I use it the more clear it is how large of a step up over the old Contax 25mm it is (which for all it's positive attributes can been less than tack sharp).

Oct 12, 2009 at 02:02 PM

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Good grief, Ziyad. That whole series is AMAZING. Incredible array of colours from one pic to the next. Very nicely done!

Oct 12, 2009 at 03:28 PM

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p.4 #15 · Zeiss look?

Nah, I thought so too, but he told me that it is just the lens...:-))))

Oct 12, 2009 at 03:34 PM

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p.4 #16 · Zeiss look?

I remember a thread trying to define the "3D effect".

I think we have a complete, unrefutable demonstration here.... Nothing to add!

Some of us that considered selling their kidney, prostituting their child or rob a bank to get a Leica M9 may finally tread back to more moral paths, and just mug a granny to get a Distagon !

Oct 12, 2009 at 03:54 PM

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belsha wrote:Some of us that considered selling their kidney, prostituting their child or rob a bank to get a Leica M9 may finally tread back to more moral paths, and just mug a granny to get a Distagon !

LoL

Oct 12, 2009 at 04:04 PM

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p.4 #18 · Zeiss look?

When you add the cost of those Distagons to a few Planars and Sonnars, it is no laughing matter, trivuong!

Oct 12, 2009 at 04:08 PM

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belsha wrote:
I remember a thread trying to define the "3D effect".

I think we have a complete, unrefutable demonstration here.... Nothing to add!

Some of us that considered selling their kidney, prostituting their child or rob a bank to get a Leica M9 may finally tread back to more moral paths, and just mug a granny to get a Distagon !

Zeiss makes _really_ nice lenses for the M's too, don't forget. And as usual they are an order of magnitude cheaper than the Leica ones. If I could ever afford an M the first thing I would do is kit myself out with Zeiss ZM's (and Voigtlanders). You don't have to take flat-looking photos just because you use an M... ;-)

Oct 12, 2009 at 05:01 PM

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brainiac wrote:
You don't have to take flat-looking photos just because you use an M... ;-)

I thought about that too... But do the Biogon or ZM lenses have the same look as the Contax-Yashica ones? Are the Biogon and Distagon 21mm similar, for exemple?

Oct 12, 2009 at 05:30 PM

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