VladiD wrote:
I had no idea I even took this shot.
I have no idea why you kept this shot.
(just kidding....sort of).
Seriously, without a ball I just don't see how it works. IMO, it's not even remotely similiar to the sample John posted with the defender flying toward us.
Let's say if there was a ball in the shot and it was a keeper, I'm curious why you cropped out the wasted space at the top of the image (including the light), but left so much grass in the foreground? I would have cropped out that grass, too, as it really does nothing to make the image stronger.
Well, I'm not a sports shooter, but FWIW, this is awesome and eye-catching! I think the uncropped version makes it work better without the ball. Maybe the light sort of balances it out and gives you an initial impression of the ball he was reaching for. Great shot!
Height off the ground is like compression of a baseball to me. Everyone oohs and ahhs, but the bottom line is that you have to look at all the other elements that make for a great sports photo. This doesn't have a ball nor a face of the kid flying in the air. There are too many negatives to make this a keeper for me. As photographers, we have to get over the physics of compressed baseballs and flying people and look at what's at the heart of the shot.
honestly you never know what you'll sell, people buying aren't as picky as we can be. I had one picked up no faces, and you can't see the ball, but you can't sell what you don't have
j.brevard wrote:
honestly you never know what you'll sell,
True but we shouldn't confuse what will sell with what makes a good selection for a presentation forum.
Would I post it for sale on my website? Absolutley. Would I post it here as an example of my best work or as an interesting or unusual shot? No. It's also not the type shot I would submit to be considered for publication.
The one positive aspect of the photo is, it is the kind of shot that can spark real excitement for someone starting out in sports photography. Hopefully the OP can build on that.
snaptie2002 wrote:
True but we shouldn't confuse what will sell with what makes a good selection for a presentation forum.
Would I post it for sale on my website? Absolutley. Would I post it here as an example of my best work or as an interesting or unusual shot? No. It's also not the type shot I would submit to be considered for publication.
The one positive aspect of the photo is, it is the kind of shot that can spark real excitement for someone starting out in sports photography. Hopefully the OP can build on that.
Marty
You are right, this sparked excitement for me. I am not a pro shooter, I take pictures for the white team and their families for free. Not looking to be compensated for these shots.
Thanks for the feedback though, I shall take it into consideration for the next rounds.
VladiD wrote:
...I am not a pro shooter, I take pictures for the white team and their families for free. Not looking to be compensated for these shots.
I sense a senseless pissing match approaching and I am not looking for one. If the status quo dictates that passionate amateurs are not welcome to share their work here, I'll pass.
VladiD wrote:
If the status quo dictates that passionate amateurs are not welcome to share their work here, I'll pass.
Posting photos (presentation) and talking about giving photos away for free (business issue) are two completely different things.
We welcome the chance to see your photos. That's what the forum is here for but keep in mind....... when you post a photo you get photography related comments, when you mention business practices you get business related comments.
I, for one, am about commented out on the working for free issue but here is an article on the subject for anyone interested.
VladiD wrote:
I sense a senseless pissing match approaching and I am not looking for one. If the status quo dictates that passionate amateurs are not welcome to share their work here, I'll pass.
Post all you want. Just don't expect to have your cake and eat it too. You'll get very little if any help from pro photogs that grind it out on a daily basis because you are hurting their (our) industry globally when you give away your work for free.