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p.4 #1 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


In all discussions about 4/3rds or mFT format what surprises me most is that people seem to think as if a 4/3rds sensor is tiny compared to an APS-C sensor. In reality the size difference between these two formats is not that much.

APS-C sensor is 0.625x of the 35mm sensor and the 4/3rds is 0.5x of the 35mm sensor. Sure there is a difference but it is not a great as some people imagine.

Put another way the difference between the FF and any of these formats is much larger than the difference within these two formats.

Oct 31, 2009 at 12:13 AM
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p.4 #2 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


The GF1 at $900, +$200 to not have to hold at arms length and a 20MM(40mm equivalent) fixed focal length just doesn't seem very practical to me. I saw this review of the GF1 EVF and have decided its a great time to be snug with the buck. Great format for the masses but holding a camera out in front of me on the street seems wa-hoo. I have 5D and love it and the only thing I want to add is a Leica FF rangefinder, just not at the M9 price-point. I hope I live to see the day. Here's comments on the EVF which would be the only solution to keeping my arms in close and it doesn't look promising (yet).
Cons:

The screen is tiny. Imagine the smallest DSLR viewfinder you have ever used. Now reduce that.
Resolution is too low to check for focusing.
Major tunnel vision.
Colours seem less accurate than the LCD.
Awkward button positioning for switching from LVF to LCD.
Takes up the hotshoe.
Expensive.

Pros:

Tiltable. A really, really great feature. Useful for photographing from lower angles.
Has diopter adjustment.
Impervious to sunlight.
It’s a viewfinder.

Oct 31, 2009 at 12:35 AM
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p.4 #3 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


TR3B wrote:
The GF1 at $900, +$200 to not have to hold at arms length and a 20MM(40mm equivalent) fixed focal length just doesn't seem very practical to me. I saw this review of the GF1 EVF and have decided its a great time to be snug with the buck. Great format for the masses but holding a camera out in front of me on the street seems wa-hoo. I have 5D and love it and the only thing I want to add is a Leica FF rangefinder, just not at the M9 price-point. I hope I live to see the day. Here's comments on the EVF which would be the only solution to keeping my arms in close and it doesn't look promising (yet).
Cons:

The screen is tiny. Imagine the smallest DSLR viewfinder you have ever used. Now reduce that.
Resolution is too low to check for focusing.
Major tunnel vision.
Colours seem less accurate than the LCD.
Awkward button positioning for switching from LVF to LCD.
Takes up the hotshoe.
Expensive.

Pros:

Tiltable. A really, really great feature. Useful for photographing from lower angles.
Has diopter adjustment.
Impervious to sunlight.
It’s a viewfinder.


If you want a real viewfinder, the G1 or GH1 are the way to go, their EVF is huge and very good.

Remember, we're comparing the GF1 to the X1 here. Both are LV-only cameras with no viewfinder, only a fixed LCD. The GF1 can use either a lens-matched OVF or a clip-on low-rez EVF. The X1 can use a lens-matched OVF (with less hassles, as you can use a standard 35mm RF OVF since the FoV and aspect ratio matches up, the GF1's 4:3 aspect ratio means you're cropping down to 3:2 or guessing on exact composition with a clip-on OVF).


Oct 31, 2009 at 02:28 PM
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p.4 #4 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


It's encouraging to see how many people will not buy the X1. It increases the potential for mine to arrive sooner.

Nov 01, 2009 at 02:43 PM
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p.4 #5 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


snowboarder wrote:
I know I won't spend a dime on anything with "Leica" logo on it.


Hey snowboarder, why is that? Did you have a bad experience with their equipment in the past?

Nov 03, 2009 at 05:54 AM
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p.4 #6 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


DPReview's X1 samples are up...

http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/leicax1_preview/

Pretty unimpressive, IMO. Even the stopped down shots seem pretty soft, the bokeh wide open is of the "interesting" type, not the smooth type. I imagine it's fun to shoot with, but first impressions lead me to believe that a GF1/20mm f/1.7 combo would give you better quality at the end of the day.

Nov 05, 2009 at 02:13 PM
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p.4 #7 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


Barry Pehlman wrote:


Leica film cameras hold their value... that's a fact. The M8, a disaster IMO,


A disaster that saved the company and sold more cameras that the five years before it combined? Now that is an interesting notion...

Nov 05, 2009 at 11:53 PM

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