M Vers wrote:
That still doesn't change the fact that it will hit the shelves for $800, does it? As for future 'probably' pricing...we shall see, won't we?
Has it hit the shelves yet? No? Then it's not a fact. All we know right now is that the pre-sale price is full MSRP. That doesn't mean that the pre-sale prices can't be adjusted later on.
kakomu wrote:
Has it hit the shelves yet? No? Then it's not a fact. All we know right now is that the pre-sale price is full MSRP. That doesn't mean that the pre-sale prices can't be adjusted later on.
Have the last three products canon has released hit the shelves for MSRP? Yes. So I think it's safe to say that this will continue...
M Vers wrote:
Have the last three products canon has released hit the shelves for MSRP? Yes. So I think it's safe to say that this will continue...
Do you mean the Rebel T1i? Did that hit the shelves at MSRP? Because, that's not been out for a while and it's already below MSRP. From the blog entries I'm reading around, it was released at less than MSRP and it will continue to fall during its lifespan.
kakomu wrote:
Do you mean the Rebel T1i? Did that hit the shelves at MSRP? Because, that's not been out for a while and it's already below MSRP. From the blog entries I'm reading around, it was released at less than MSRP and it will continue to fall during its lifespan.
No I meant the 5DII, 17 TS-E and the 24II TS-E. As for the T1i, I can't recall if that sold for MSRP but it's a likely assumption (BTW, it only dropped $50)
M Vers wrote:
No I meant the 5DII, 17 TS-E and the 24II TS-E. As for the T1i, I can't recall if that sold for MSRP but it's a likely assumption.
Then you're ignoring the fact that EF-S lenses aren't the same as an ultrawide L-series TS lens or multi-thousand dollar full frame camera. They're exotic items that aren't meant for the general consumer. The 15-85 will be sold in any big box electronics store, whereas you have to go to camera stores for a TS lens (and even then, you may not find it).
As for the T1i, it was released at less than MSRP. The 15-85 is more in line with the T1i than the 5D2 or an ultrawide TS lens.
Canon is definitely taking a new approach to the look of their lenses. I didn't notice it at first with the two new TS lenses, but they're using a different, larger font.
They appear to have also omitted the USM gold ring. The focal length numbers are now sitting on a black area instead of a gray area that EF-S lenses all had.
I am just a dumb beginner and will likely never be much more. My interest is in landscapes and close-ups. This lens interests me. I have been looking for an upgrade from my kit lens. Most of my pictures are while hiking or backpacking and not from the side of the road. I would rather carry a few quality zooms than have a trunk full of L primes. I was looking at the 24-105 L but it isn't wide enough. That would leave me having to add the 10-22 for the wide end and would necessitate some frequent lens changing. Even with high pricing this lens could save me some money and weight. I will just have to wait and see how the IQ turns out and what the street price turns out to be. (Any guesses on street price?)
I have a 40D and some lenses for different purposes: from landscape to macro including portrait and wildlife (some portraits are wild too!). My current lens line up is OK but I find myself always using either 10-22 or 70-200 (or 100-400) instead of what suposed to be my WA lens: 24-105L...I am planning to go FF one day but was not convinced by 5d2. Since I sold my 17-85, I am craving of a WA lens...I will consider this one carrefully....but I am not rushing for it.
The 16-85mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S DX Nikkor is currently $610 at B&H, for what it's worth. We'll have to see what the price does post-introduction, and if it gets close to the Nikkor.
What's important about this lens is the 24mm-equivalent FOV at the wide end. For some, that means not also having to carrry a 10-22.
I agree it would have been nice to see a 15-70mm f/4 constant aperture lens, ala the 24-105L.
NIKKOR 16-85 VR MSRP is $789 and the street price is now $610.
Canon 15-85 IS MSRP is $799 and the street price will no doubt keep getting lower... and lower...
A.Y. wrote:
NIKKOR 16-85 VR MSRP is $789 and the street price is now $610.
Canon 15-85 IS MSRP is $799 and the street price will no doubt keep getting lower... and lower...
It's difficult to directly compare Nikon and Canon lenses. E.g. the Canon 100mm F/2 is ~$420 new. The Nikon 105mm F/2 is ~$1080
garyvot wrote:
The 16-85mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S DX Nikkor is currently $610 at B&H, for what it's worth. We'll have to see what the price does post-introduction, and if it gets close to the Nikkor.
That 16-85 is quite good. 16 mm is about the same as 15 mm on the smaller Canon sensor.
