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p.149 #1 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

5DMkII vs 7D ISO tests:

http://www.cameratown.com/reviews/canon7d/

7D vs Nikon D300 ISO tests:

http://www.cameratown.com/reviews/canon7d/Nikond300.cfm

Oct 26, 2009 at 02:01 PM

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p.149 #2 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

EOS20 wrote:
5DMkII vs 7D ISO tests:

http://www.cameratown.com/reviews/canon7d/

7D vs Nikon D300 ISO tests:

http://www.cameratown.com/reviews/canon7d/Nikond300.cfm

They look awfully dark. Problem with my screen?

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Oct 26, 2009 at 02:05 PM

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p.149 #3 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

Pixel Perfect wrote:
WilliamG wrote:
I have to say, the more I use my 7D, the more I absolutely hate my 5DII AF system....

*sigh*

But hey drop the 7D AF into the 5D II body and we have our D700 killer.

I'm sort of giving up hope that will ever happen.

Oct 26, 2009 at 02:20 PM

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p.149 #4 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

kapytalyst wrote:
Pixel Perfect wrote:

But hey drop the 7D AF into the 5D II body and we have our D700 killer.

I'm sort of giving up hope that will ever happen.

The next rendition of the 5-series will have it or some rendition of the 7D's AF system. Maybe next year...

Oct 26, 2009 at 02:30 PM

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p.149 #5 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

Tom_W wrote:
kapytalyst wrote:
Pixel Perfect wrote:

But hey drop the 7D AF into the 5D II body and we have our D700 killer.

I'm sort of giving up hope that will ever happen.

The next rendition of the 5-series will have it or some rendition of the 7D's AF system. Maybe next year...

Not likely. The 5D has a 3 year lifecycle.

Happy shooting,
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Oct 26, 2009 at 02:38 PM

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p.149 #6 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

Yakim Peled wrote:

Not likely. The 5D has a 3 year lifecycle.

Based on a sample size of... one new generation?

Oct 26, 2009 at 03:18 PM

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p.149 #7 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

Well, that's all we have so that's the best guess.

Happy shooting,
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Oct 26, 2009 at 03:20 PM

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p.149 #8 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

Canon has announced that there will be a firmware update to the 5D mkII to enable 24fps movie mode in early 2010. I would think that if they were going to be releasing a 5D mkIII next year then they wouldn't do the firmware update, they'd just release the new camera.

Tenuous logic, but it and the MkI-MkII time line is all that's available.

Oct 26, 2009 at 03:39 PM

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p.149 #9 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

I posted these in Nature, but figured I'd share them in the 7D forum.
I rented the 7D and the 400 f/5.6L for a week to see if I really wanted to switch back to canon or not (for the 400L, not really for the 7D)

I really, really like the combo to be sure, and my lens might need some MA (as many of my shots were *just* OOF - perhaps because I'm not sure a release on my tripod or other technique flaw of mine), but overall I really like how it feels. Very fast to focus lens. Focusing system is about where the D300 sits, meaning pretty darn good.

I must say - I prefer the look of the noise of the 7D over the D300 - It's finer grain-like, whereas my D300 (even with zero NR), just looks more mottled. Makes a difference when you start cropping pretty heavily. Oh, and with 18MP, cropping seems to go on forever.

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Oct 26, 2009 at 05:01 PM

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p.149 #10 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

I think the next 5D (whether it is a Mk III, or a 3D) will come sooner than three years along, given the competition from Nikon & Sony (& others?), a pressure that didn't exist for much of the Mk I's life. It seems that Canon brought out the 50D in 12 months rather than 18 due to competition... and would the 7D exist at all if not for the D300/s?

Then again... until the competition comes out with a competitive 1080p FF SLR, maybe Canon will maintain a dominant position in the sector. Maybe that argument is right.

How about 30 months rather than 36 or 24?

Oct 26, 2009 at 08:39 PM

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p.149 #11 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

cputeq wrote:
I posted these in Nature, but figured I'd share them in the 7D forum.
I rented the 7D and the 400 f/5.6L for a week to see if I really wanted to switch back to canon or not (for the 400L, not really for the 7D)

I really, really like the combo to be sure, and my lens might need some MA (as many of my shots were *just* OOF - perhaps because I'm not sure a release on my tripod or other technique flaw of mine), but overall I really like how it feels. Very fast to focus lens. Focusing system is about where the D300 sits, meaning pretty darn good.

I must say - I prefer the look of the noise of the 7D over the D300 - It's finer grain-like, whereas my D300 (even with zero NR), just looks more mottled. Makes a difference when you start cropping pretty heavily. Oh, and with 18MP, cropping seems to go on forever.

The French magazine Chasseur d'Image posted a 10 pages analysis of 7D vs D300s. They are very very similar on many levels, however the 7D has the edge on IQ (more details with the 18MP vs 12, but also -surprinsingly- better high iso - analyzed on A2 size prints, with a less agressive noise suppression on the 7D that leads to more noise but also retain more details). However the D300s has still the edge on the AF and 3D tracking. The 400/5.6 however has nothing to compare at that price in the Nikon line-up (but I would be surprised if Nikon does not release a VR version at some point). If you ask the Nikon folks on the Nikon forums they will tell you that the D400 is coming, Canon camera do not focus and the D300s is still the best camera in its class. Good luck with you decision!

Oct 26, 2009 at 10:25 PM

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p.149 #12 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

Jim Victory wrote:
WilliamG wrote:
I have to say, the more I use my 7D, the more I absolutely hate my 5DII AF system....

*sigh*

I was thinking the same today. Thought about selling it but the files are sure nice when it does focus.

I swear a 20D I own was more consistent.

Jim

Something has to be wrong... My 5D2 is spot on.. Of course, I don't use servo much at all with it...

Still waiting on my 7D exchange... my feeling was much more the opposite..

Oct 26, 2009 at 10:37 PM

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p.149 #13 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

I had a 5D II and now a 7D, the AF is not comparable...7D wins hands down.

Oct 26, 2009 at 11:03 PM

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p.149 #14 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

Just got my 7D that I ordered last Tues evening from B&H. It has firmware 1.0.9 on it. I was a little surprised. I thought I would need to update it. It hasn't been out all that long. Just passing that along. Thought it was just a little strange.

Oct 26, 2009 at 11:18 PM

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p.149 #15 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

You have a newer batch that's all.

BennyR wrote:
Just got my 7D that I ordered last Tues evening from B&H. It has firmware 1.0.9 on it. I was a little surprised. I thought I would need to update it. It hasn't been out all that long. Just passing that along. Thought it was just a little strange.

Oct 26, 2009 at 11:33 PM

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p.149 #16 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

Believe it or not I figured that out all on my own. I still thought it was a little strange.

Anyone know why the Zoombrowser 6.4 link on the Canon USA site isn't working? Seems to have been that way for several days.

Oct 26, 2009 at 11:35 PM

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p.149 #17 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

Still seems like there are very few "professional" 7D reviews out there.

I stumbled upon this review from "NeoCamera", which I've never heard of...just thought I would share. Some complaints on color rendition and inconsistent metering...ring true to anyone?

http://www.neocamera.com/review_canon_7d_more.html

Oct 26, 2009 at 11:57 PM

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p.149 #18 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

I was wondering why there hasn't been anything on DPR yet, what's taking them so long??

Oct 27, 2009 at 12:37 AM

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p.149 #19 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

kewlcanon wrote:
I had a 5D II and now a 7D, the AF is not comparable...7D wins hands down.

in what ways?

center point one shot i don't see any advantage

the outer points are much fast on the 7D though for one shot, didn't test for precision yet though

didn't compare AI servo yet either

Oct 27, 2009 at 01:28 AM

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p.149 #20 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread

Center point one shot is about the same between the 7D and 5D2 - both very good. The peripheral points on the 7D are better. Servo on the 7D is giving me a higher hit ratio. I'm still working on that - haven't had much of a chance to track any birds in flight yet, but I did work with my sister's dog in the back yard the last 2 days. And, of course, the obligatory freeway traffic at speed test. I need to catch up with the camera's ability!

The 5D and 5D2 do track well with the center point and expansion activated, but I didn't have very good results away from center. There are other advantages in the more flexible 7D system that give it a decided advantage in servo. For one thing, you can adjust the sensitivity of the AF system on the 7D to switch subjects when, for example, you are tracking a subject as it passes behind a pole or another player. Much like the 1-series in that respect.

I'm still exploring all the AF features in the 7D, but so far, I like it.

Oct 27, 2009 at 01:47 AM

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